Formula 1 2024

[parker]

After hearing how shafted it sounds like they got. I say good.

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[torquemada]

Originally Posted by torquemada

well, another two years of big money, somebody has to think about his pension

and, with my deepest disgust, Ricciardo moves up to RedBull, again. You heard it here first.

I eat my words....until 2024 I always thought that Christian Horner was a good and capable team boss...boy was I wrong.


- he lost Adrian Newey
- he will lose Max Verstappen over this absurd family feud with his father
- he did not fire Perez
- he has no plan B if Perez still underperforms or Verstappen changes to another team


JFC the RedBull Team is in freefall, and Horner is the one to blame

[parker]

But energy drinks and racing are like peas in side pods?

[torquemada]

Originally Posted by parker

But energy drinks and racing are like peas in side pods?

I have no idea what that means ^^


But Jonathan Wheatley will leave his role as Red Bull's Sporting Director with the energy drinks firm saying he will become Team Principal of the Audi F1 Team, which is yet to be confirmed by Audi.

[MrH]

Seems like Perez is sticking around at least after the Mexico GP.
LM may have intervene in Redbull's decision.

[340Duster]

Originally Posted by MrH

Seems like Perez is sticking around at least after the Mexico GP.
LM may have intervene in Redbull's decision.

LM?

Is this a change in what they said at at the start of the break?

[MrH]

Liberty Media.
They want Perez driving at the Mexican GP or they fear that the ticket sales will tank.

[MrH]

Now I see that Newy is going to AM-Honda. Said it was a done deal.

Well not exactly a done deal. He can't sign any deal until September.

[dwf137]

Originally Posted by MrH

Liberty Media.
They want Perez driving at the Mexican GP or they fear that the ticket sales will tank.

Tickets have been sold out for a long time. That rumor is just anti-Perez fake news clickbait.

Perez is there because his sponsors pay a big part of the bill and there's not a better option right now. Neither Ricciardo nor Tsunoda are better than Perez. Lawson isn't ready for the seat. Sainz could have been an option but would have nearly guaranteed that Max would move teams because of the Sainz/Verstappen family issues and previous issues. Hulk could have been a good option to replicate a similar relationship to Max, but he already signed with Audi.

I saw that they're planning on removing the "upgrades" from Perez's RB20 until they figure out the setup with Max. Perez was in pretty good form until the "upgrades" started coming and while RB thinks it will raise the bar, neither driver has been able to dial in the upgrades yet.

[dwf137]

Originally Posted by MrH

Now I see that Newy is going to AM-Honda. Said it was a done deal.

Well not exactly a done deal. He can't sign any deal until September.

imo, that was the clear direction from the beginning. He's already got business ties with AM as he developed the Valkyrie. Clearly Stroll has dreams of turning the brand around and Newey wants to be a part of that, beyond his engagement in F1.

[hi5.0]

Now all AM needs is a second driver to make the most of what Newey can bring to the team.

[MrH]

Seems like the reason Rebull fell off so much was that they were force to remove something from their car.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9nou...RmMGZ4emNzaw==

Sounds like the old fiddle brake McLaren was using in '98-'99 season.

Then this came out:

https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/10...lation-change/

[340Duster]

http://www.youtube.com/shorts/NRu9deP0NXY

[torquemada]

Originally Posted by 340Duster

http://www.youtube.com/shorts/NRu9deP0NXY

Bottas is one of the drivers stealing a cockpit that a younger driver would deserve

[MrH]

Times from today's qualifying session for the Heineken Dutch Grand Prix.

Pos Driver Team Time Gap
1 Norris McLaren 1:09.673 136.744 mph
2 Verstappen Red Bull 1:10.029 0.356
3 Piastri McLaren 1:10.172 0.499
4 Russell Mercedes 1:10.244 0.571
5 Perez Red Bull 1:10.416 0.743
6 Leclerc Ferrari 1:10.582 0.909
7 Alonso Aston Martin 1:10.633 0.960
8 Albon Williams 1:10.653 0.980
9 Stroll Aston Martin 1:10.857 1.184
10 Gasly Alpine 1:10.977 1.304
11 Sainz Ferrari 1:10.914
12 Hamilton Mercedes 1:10.948
13 Tsunoda RB 1:10.955
14 Hulkenberg Haas 1:11.215
15 Magnussen Haas 1:11.295
16 Ricciardo RB 1:11.943
17 Ocon Alpine 1:11.995
18 Bottas Stake 1:12.168
19 Zhou Stake 1:13.261
20 Sargeant Williams No Time

[torquemada]

Sargeant is a danger for himself and for other drivers.

I am pretty sure that Norris and Verstappen will collide in turn 1 after the start.

[MrH]

Lewis gets a grid penalty .
Albon got thrown to the back for an illegal floor.

[torquemada]

me while watching the race

[MrH]

Result of the Heineken Dutch Grand Prix.

Pos Driver Team Laps Gap
1 Norris McLaren 72 1h 30:45.519
2 Verstappen Red Bull 72 + 0:22.896
3 Leclerc Ferrari 72 + 0:25.439
4 Piastri McLaren 72 + 0:27.337
5 Sainz Ferrari 72 + 0:32.137
6 Perez Red Bull 72 + 0:39.542
7 Russell Mercedes 72 + 0:44.617
8 Hamilton Mercedes 72 + 0:49.599
9 Gasly Alpine 71 + 1 Lap
10 Alonso Aston Martin 71 + 1 Lap
11 Hulkenberg Haas 71 + 1 Lap
12 Ricciardo RB 71 + 1 Lap
13 Stroll Aston Martin 71 + 1 Lap
14 Albon Williams 71 + 1 Lap
15 Ocon Alpine 71 + 1 Lap
16 Sargeant Williams 71 + 1 Lap
17 Tsunoda RB 71 + 1 Lap
18 Magnussen Haas 71 + 1 Lap
19 Bottas Stake 70 + 2 Laps
20 Zhou Stake 70 + 2 Laps

Norris gets past Max and see ya later.
Just think Max was beating Mclaren by 30 sec. at the frist few races.
Now McLaren is beating Max by 20 sec.
Haven't seen this since Brawn blitz the field the first half of the 2009 season and fell off the second half but still held on to win the WDC & WCC.
Good drive by Leclerc.
Where was Mercedes? Agian got tourched by the customer team.

[torquemada]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdFBbBlaStE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdFBbBlaStE

[SG02WRX]

Logan Could be gone... Who will take his seat for the rest of season

[dwf137]

Logan officially gone.

Not sure that the replacement is going to be any better. Dude was just promoted to F2 this year after a so-so showing in F3. Hasn't done much in F2 this year. I think they're just trying to cut losses and couldn't afford to pay Mercedes to use Antonelli for the rest of the season.

[MrH]

Doesn't look like much of an upgrade over Sargent.
He must be bringing in a crap load of buckazoids to the team.

[dwf137]

Originally Posted by MrH

Doesn't look like much of an upgrade over Sargent.
He must be bringing in a crap load of buckazoids to the team.

I don't think so... I just think the team was fed up with Sargent and his lack of progression.

[torquemada]

at least Mick Schumacher did not get the cockpit, which is good, because I really hate the german motorsport journalism, I hate Ralf Schumacher, I do not like Sabine Kehm, and I don´t like Mick "the neck" Schumacher