2024 WRX TR spec

[Straight6]

Originally Posted by uglywrx

You'd really pay 15k premium for a car that would perform strictly worse than one you just did yourself? You could literally sti drivetrain swap this car, get 2 race seats, get a BBK on, get wider and sticker tiers, and probably still have money left for parts and a tune for 15k. Why?

You can apply that logic to virtually every car. Considering the current market, I still think this is a great package. I am really excited for the reveal and I am hoping it will get the DCC from the GT trim.

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[Scooby-Doode]

Originally Posted by Straight6

You can apply that logic to virtually every car. Considering the current market, I still think this is a great package. I am really excited for the reveal and I am hoping it will get the DCC from the GT trim.

So have you bought one yet?

[uglywrx]

Originally Posted by Straight6

You can apply that logic to virtually every car. Considering the current market, I still think this is a great package. I am really excited for the reveal and I am hoping it will get the DCC from the GT trim.

Ok then do that for a base wrx. What could I have got for under 32k instead?

[Straight6]

Originally Posted by uglywrx

Ok then do that for a base wrx. What could I have got for under 32k instead?

You can't really make a comparison to other trims. We don't know the pricing and the equipment at this time.

[uglywrx]

Originally Posted by Straight6

You can't really make a comparison to other trims. We don't know the pricing and the equipment at this time.

Oh sorry I guess the very first example I picked, for some strange reason falls outside of your "virtually every car" subset. Weird how that works.

[Snow Drift]

Originally Posted by SoDealer

Considering the headlights, it doesn't look based on a premium. Looks like SOA regurgitated a name that really isn't applicable to this vehicle. Should have just called it a performance package and moved on.

I never noticed a difference in trim headlights (besides SRH function). Notice the black rectangle in the right hand corner? I bet it has a WRX logo like the new BRZ. So, who knows what the 2024 bezel looks like for all trims.

[Straight6]

Originally Posted by uglywrx

Oh sorry I guess the very first example I picked, for some strange reason falls outside of your "virtually every car" subset. Weird how that works.

Cool story bro. Buy the base then and modify if you want to and move on with your life.

[uglywrx]

Originally Posted by Straight6

Cool story bro. Buy the base then and modify if you want to and move on with your life.

I did and am. Come back when you can walk your talk

[vapore0n]

Wow. How to make an ugly car uglier.
Subaru should just bring back the STI and stop making dumb versions of dumb cars.

[vapore0n]

Wow. How to make an ugly car uglier.
Subaru should just bring back the STI and stop making dumb versions of dumb cars.

[20WRX20]

Originally Posted by Straight6

In a world of 50K Corollas, if they keep it around 45K, it will be a hit.

No it wouldn’t. Not at 45k. The GT trim is already a ripoff without the TR parts. You can get an Audi S3 for that price, or for another 5k, an S4. Both superior in every dimension to this glorified Outback sedan.

Now, If the TR package is around 2k or whatever the performance pack cost on the VA, then it would be a hit.

A nearly 15k markup for brakes and Recaros, and then calling it a hit? Thanks again for proving your incompetency with these cars.

[neg_matnik]

Originally Posted by uglywrx

You'd really pay 15k premium for a car that would perform strictly worse than one you just did yourself? You could literally sti drivetrain swap this car, get 2 race seats, get a BBK on, get wider and sticker tiers, and probably still have money left for parts and a tune for 15k. Why?

I wouldn't want to drive a VB with STI ratios *with* that factory 6100 RPM redline. Yikes !
I plugged in VA STI and VB WRX ratios+FD+tires into a speed calculator (https://legacypic.uk/transmission/graph.php) and FA24DIT redline would need to come up to at least 6625~6650 RPM.

[20WRX20]

Originally Posted by neg_matnik

I wouldn't want to drive a VB with STI ratios *with* that factory 6100 RPM redline. Yikes !
I plugged in VA STI and VB WRX ratios+FD+tires into a speed calculator (https://legacypic.uk/transmission/graph.php) and FA24DIT redline would need to come up to at least 6625~6650 RPM.

If Subaru wasn’t so lazy then they would’ve modified the internals to raise the redline. But again, this is just a parts-bin, global platform, plastic-cladded, last minute rushed project that we’re talking about here, so that would be raising expectations too high.

[Straight6]

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[20WRX20]

Originally Posted by Straight6

This message is hidden because 20WRX20 is on your ignore list.

Can’t handle the reality/feedback from your nonsensical posts?

[rallly 4]

Originally Posted by Straight6

You can apply that logic to virtually every car. Considering the current market, I still think this is a great package. I am really excited for the reveal and I am hoping it will get the DCC from the GT trim.

STIs have been slower since 2007.
WRXs are slower now as well.
Every other brand has made products faster and Subaru might be the only who hasn’t. In 2004-2006 a stock sti was faster than the M3 0-60 and 1/4 mile.

[Russ_G93]

Here's to hoping the brake kit doesn't cost 5-6k lmao

[JustyWRC]

Originally Posted by 20WRX20

Can’t handle the reality/feedback from your nonsensical posts?

Did you just respond to a person that has you on ignore.

[Smoblikat]

Originally Posted by rallly 4

STIs have been slower since 2007.
WRXs are slower now as well.
Every other brand has made products faster and Subaru might be the only who hasn’t. In 2004-2006 a stock sti was faster than the M3 0-60 and 1/4 mile.

This right here ^^


Im glad Subaru still makes these cars, its obviously a huge benefit for car enthusiasts in general, and I love the WRX to death, but I dont think I would buy one of the new ones. I have recently started to appreciate the 11 - 14 widebody hatchbacks, but other than that I stop being super interested in anything past 07.


I also didnt know the redline dropped again to 6100......that lower than oldschool pushrod V8s. Are the gears longer now or do they just have lower top speeds?

[neg_matnik]

Originally Posted by 20WRX20

If Subaru wasn’t so lazy then they would’ve modified the internals to raise the redline. But again, this is just a parts-bin, global platform, plastic-cladded, last minute rushed project that we’re talking about here, so that would be raising expectations too high.

Frankly, I'm puzzled because that low redline makes no sense.
FA20DIT shared the same stroke therefore piston speed is the same.
What has changed is piston mass since bore is larger.
But, supposedly, FA24DIT rods are significantly beefier than FA20DIT rods; so, they should be able to handle the extra 600 RPM (and associated forces) to 6700.
I can't see why the valvetrain wouldn't do at least 6700 either.
And, that can't possibly be a turbo issue; if anything, boost control should be significantly better with the integrated electronic wastegate and bpv (they should have done this with FA20DIT from day one !).
So, IMO, we're left with fueling or emissions constraints.
Either way, that's a head scratcher. I would love to get some insights from Subaru engineers on that subject.

[20WRX20]

Originally Posted by neg_matnik

Frankly, I'm puzzled because that low redline makes no sense.
FA20DIT shared the same stroke therefore piston speed is the same.
What has changed is piston mass since bore is larger.
But, supposedly, FA24DIT rods are significantly beefier than FA20DIT rods; so, they should be able to handle the extra 600 RPM (and associated forces) to 6700.
I can't see why the valvetrain wouldn't do at least 6700 either.
And, that can't possibly be a turbo issue; if anything, boost control should be significantly better with the integrated electronic wastegate and bpv (they should have done this with FA20DIT from day one !).
So, IMO, we're left with fueling or emissions constraints.
Either way, that's a head scratcher. I would love to get some insights from Subaru engineers on that subject.

The FA24 was designed to be used in SUVs and therefore priority was given to torque rather than horsepower/high RPMs. The added mass of the “beefed up” rotating assembly is likely the limiting factor.

[chanomatik]

Torque makes the car feel sporty and fast, so it makes sense to me.

[Russ_G93]

I mean, shoot, all they need to do is throw in Recaro's, Brembos, and a slight power increase tune on the current Prem/Limited. They could call it, the WRX STI

[Kostamojen]

Originally Posted by Russ_G93

I mean, shoot, all they need to do is throw in Recaro's, Brembos, and a slight power increase tune on the current Prem/Limited. They could call it, the WRX STI

Needs the better trans and diffs to be an STI.

[20WRX20]

Originally Posted by Kostamojen

Needs the better trans and diffs to be an STI.

This. Or at least limited slip front and rear FFS.