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Old 09-29-2023, 09:43 PM   #51
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Straight6 gonna tell us why open front and rear diffs are aktchually better.
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Old 09-29-2023, 11:21 PM   #52
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Open diffs are great because they're the most American part of the car in that they exemplify one simple idea: Freedom.

BOOM. Lawyered.
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Old 09-30-2023, 08:21 AM   #53
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Straight6 gonna tell us why open front and rear diffs are aktchually better.
Of course it would be nice to have it as an option at least but I don't think it is a deal breaker in this particular car.
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Old 10-02-2023, 10:30 AM   #54
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Recaro time.
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Old 10-02-2023, 10:35 AM   #55
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entire car is unpainted.... LOL
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Old 10-02-2023, 11:20 AM   #56
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Glad it has the good seats...

Sadly that also means this trim will probably be expensive AF.
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Old 10-02-2023, 11:48 AM   #57
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Im convinced this either a Manual GT or a Premium with Recaro's and Brakes.. plus eyesight and Adaptive Front Lamps, No moon roof. Wouldnt this still price at about 36-37?
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Old 10-02-2023, 12:43 PM   #58
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Im convinced this either a Manual GT or a Premium with Recaro's and Brakes.. plus eyesight and Adaptive Front Lamps, No moon roof. Wouldnt this still price at about 36-37?
Have 2024 prices been announced yet? Add in an inflation price bump too like every car seems to be getting...

My guess is $40k, but hopefully around 36-37 as you mention to make it competitive. Thats still as much as the base STI was in 2021
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Old 10-02-2023, 12:54 PM   #59
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Have 2024 prices been announced yet? Add in an inflation price bump too like every car seems to be getting...

My guess is $40k, but hopefully around 36-37 as you mention to make it competitive. Thats still as much as the base STI was in 2021
Not yet. 2023 WRX got a big inflation increase.
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Old 10-02-2023, 02:06 PM   #60
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At first I was excited, but I can’t see this costing any less than $45,000 after 2024 MY price increases. Sad because that’s Audi S3 territory and for another 5k you can get into a base S4.

Subaru is really trying to church up their economy car game. They’ll throw anything and everything at this car except give it more power and real diffs. Lol
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Old 10-02-2023, 09:40 PM   #61
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Have 2024 prices been announced yet? Add in an inflation price bump too like every car seems to be getting...

My guess is $40k, but hopefully around 36-37 as you mention to make it competitive. Thats still as much as the base STI was in 2021

I hope that's not the case.

We will see.
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Old 10-03-2023, 09:17 AM   #62
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I have some interest in this car and am getting near upgrading from my 2013 WRX. Power is not a huge issue for me, however 45,000.00 is. While I am not going to spend 45000 on any car, if I were I am sure I would go for a Civic Type R which is much more special than a WRX with TR package. I can get an Integra manual for around 35,000.00 or a Civic SI for 30,000.00, Mini type S around 35,000 or less. If this WRX prices out much over 35,000.00 it is going to have a tough time competing with some of these other options. I forgot the Corolla GR which in the high 30s delivers better value also. I am only metnioning cars with a Manual for comparison but we also have in the Mix Golf GTI and some Hyundai models.
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Old 10-03-2023, 12:03 PM   #63
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I have some interest in this car and am getting near upgrading from my 2013 WRX. Power is not a huge issue for me, however 45,000.00 is. While I am not going to spend 45000 on any car, if I were I am sure I would go for a Civic Type R which is much more special than a WRX with TR package. I can get an Integra manual for around 35,000.00 or a Civic SI for 30,000.00, Mini type S around 35,000 or less. If this WRX prices out much over 35,000.00 it is going to have a tough time competing with some of these other options. I forgot the Corolla GR which in the high 30s delivers better value also. I am only metnioning cars with a Manual for comparison but we also have in the Mix Golf GTI and some Hyundai models.
"Tough time competing..."...I assume you mean on paper. Pretty sure the WRX sells better than each one of those.
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Old 10-03-2023, 12:36 PM   #64
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WRX is also cheaper than those and available.
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I have some interest in this car and am getting near upgrading from my 2013 WRX. Power is not a huge issue for me, however 45,000.00 is. While I am not going to spend 45000 on any car, if I were I am sure I would go for a Civic Type R which is much more special than a WRX with TR package. I can get an Integra manual for around 35,000.00 or a Civic SI for 30,000.00, Mini type S around 35,000 or less. If this WRX prices out much over 35,000.00 it is going to have a tough time competing with some of these other options. I forgot the Corolla GR which in the high 30s delivers better value also. I am only metnioning cars with a Manual for comparison but we also have in the Mix Golf GTI and some Hyundai models.
Minus the Integra, the VB WRX outsells those cars combined. Also, you are not touching the CTR anywhere close to 45K, not a chance. I can't find any Si models either. The base Integra is discounted here but the 1.5T is a deal breaker for me and you have to spend a lot more to get the A-spec with the LSD. The Mini and GR are a lot smaller inside and you need to spend close to 50K to get the GR with the diffs, at least in my area. The GTI is just so vanilla. The N is the best bargain here by a mile but you are stuck with FWD. WRX offers the best all around package by far. If this TR is around 45K, it will be a huge hit for Subaru, after all we live in a world of 50-55K Corollas and Civics.
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Old 10-03-2023, 04:10 PM   #66
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Minus the Integra, the VB WRX outsells those cars combined. Also, you are not touching the CTR anywhere close to 45K, not a chance. I can't find any Si models either. The base Integra is discounted here but the 1.5T is a deal breaker for me and you have to spend a lot more to get the A-spec with the LSD. The Mini and GR are a lot smaller inside and you need to spend close to 50K to get the GR with the diffs, at least in my area. The GTI is just so vanilla. The N is the best bargain here by a mile but you are stuck with FWD. WRX offers the best all around package by far. If this TR is around 45K, it will be a huge hit for Subaru, after all we live in a world of 50-55K Corollas and Civics.
So you are searching for a Civic Si? And still driving that VW?
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I think the pricing on this will be rather interesting to watch given the competition between the GTI going in to the last year of it offering a manual, the Civic Si, Elantra N, Type R, Type S, and even Golf R.

I get the AWD argument but LSDs in the FWD offerings are so good that unless you absolutely need it for the climate you live in, it's not a huge deciding factor.

On the other hand, I've always thought that people don't really cross-shop the WRX. It's either something you want, or don't. Similar to the 4Runner. The trade-offs in terms of space, MPG, refinement, etc, are not comparable with the more modern offerings, and the WRX feels very similar in many ways.

With this TR, we are now seeing 6-pots, larger wheels, Recaros, etc. If Subaru is smart, they throw in the upgraded suspension similar to the BRZ TS, make it a slick top with the two screen infotainment and no Hamon Kardon and I'd be game at $35 to $36. If they try to show in Eyesight and other more premium features and charge near $40K, it's a hard pass.
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Old 10-03-2023, 10:54 PM   #68
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Does Eyesight work with a manual? I haven't paid much attention for a few years.
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Minus the Integra, the VB WRX outsells those cars combined. Also, you are not touching the CTR anywhere close to 45K, not a chance. I can't find any Si models either. The base Integra is discounted here but the 1.5T is a deal breaker for me and you have to spend a lot more to get the A-spec with the LSD. The Mini and GR are a lot smaller inside and you need to spend close to 50K to get the GR with the diffs, at least in my area. The GTI is just so vanilla. The N is the best bargain here by a mile but you are stuck with FWD. WRX offers the best all around package by far. If this TR is around 45K, it will be a huge hit for Subaru, after all we live in a world of 50-55K Corollas and Civics.
Why do you lie so much? It’s actually sickening.

GR Corolla with diff packs tech pack and climate pack is 40,500. I paid 42k otd for mine.

The Wrx only outsells because they’re mass produced. GRC, CTR is limited production. Stop lying so much it’s pathetic
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...The Wrx only outsells because they’re mass produced. GRC, CTR is limited production. Stop lying so much it’s pathetic

You can't really use this as a counter point when the others are actually comparing them. Availability is a huge....massive factor(I still haven't seen a GRC in the wild yet) and they are mentioning MSRPs which few can be had at that.
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Old 10-04-2023, 06:17 AM   #71
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So you are searching for a Civic Si? And still driving that VW?
i almost want him to get a WRX, and see if he changes his tune when he's spending regular time at the dealer for recalls and broken ****.
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Old 10-04-2023, 07:24 AM   #72
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Does Eyesight work with a manual? I haven't paid much attention for a few years.
2024 BRZ tS is the first to come equipped with EyeSight + manual. It's presumed WRX will get it too so that Subaru can claim all of their models are essentially Top Safety Pick+ or whatever.
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Not sure if these photos are legit or not...sounds like a giant wing that I wouldn't want and not much else.

https://www.drive.com.au/news/2024-s...-to-australia/

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In addition to the spoiler, upgrades planned for the WRX TR include larger 19-inch wheels wrapped in 245/35 R19 Bridgestone Potenza S007 tyres - compared to the standard WRX's 18-inch wheels and 245/40 R18 Dunlop SP Sport Maxx rubber.

There are upgraded, red-painted Brembo brake calipers clamping 340x30mm front and 326x30mm rear ventilated discs (up from 316x28mm front and 290x18mm rear brakes on the standard model).

The suspension appears to be the same as the regular manual WRX sedan, and it misses out on the adaptive dampers available in the CVT automatic-only WRX tS flagship.

Inside, Subaru USA has confirmed Recaro sports bucket seats from the flagship tS will be available. A sunroof is not available on the new variant in Australia.
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Double post. Apologies.

Regardless, my guess is this slots in at $35K plus destination. I hope it has a spoiler delete option.
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Aeroflow Dynamic collaboration.

People will gladly trunk swap as they always have. Guys like me prefer the wing.
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