The "My Dealership Told Me" Thread - Page 2

supermarkus · 01-21-2005, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxerT

There is a guy named Mike Shields that in 2001 told me there is no way the STi is EVER coming to the US. Is he still in business?

I think he is. His web page is still up, you gotta pay for server time somehow.

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totoherbs · 01-21-2005, 07:40 PM

Quote:

There is a guy named Mike Shields that in 2001 told me there is no way the STi is EVER coming to the US. Is he still in business?

Well iirc he said the 2.0L STi would not, and that maybe a 2.2L will be reborn or a new 2.5L motor.

So I would say he was right.

PHATsuby · 01-21-2005, 08:04 PM

well if general manager said it, it must be true...

Honestly, dealerships are retards, I go there and laugh when they try to tell me about cars they know nothing about. then i educate them about them

They are testing a H6 turbo drivetrain but i doubt they will release it next year.

Ben

tee_rexx · 01-21-2005, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bull3964

Dealers, by and large, are less informed than the average internet user.

Amen......but having said that just two years ago we heard that there was no way the STi would have a 2.5 motor (with 300/300 no less). There tends to be a lot of rumors and some of them actually come true so we can't discount everything. My personal belief is that Subaru is going to knock one out of the park with the next STi and 350-400 hp is a possibility. Hopefully they can keep the price reasonable.

Timmysubie · 01-21-2005, 08:39 PM

does it come with those uh things on the front..the um....light thingys. Also do you guys think it will compete with the new civic hatch.

Oh one more thing, am i gonna be able to get and e-brake on it.

parker · 01-21-2005, 08:56 PM

be interesting to see how right this dealer is.

98% of the time when i walk into one, i know more than anyone there. including some techs.

i cant wait to see this new car but i hope it's four cylinder.

Mike Wevrick · 01-21-2005, 09:38 PM

I heard we were getting the WRX!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmysubie

does it come with those uh things on the front..the um....light thingys. Also do you guys think it will compete with the new civic hatch.

Oh one more thing, am i gonna be able to get and e-brake on it.

sneeky · 01-21-2005, 10:39 PM

well my dealer is smArter than all yours guyses... cause mine saids that it will have wings and be able to fly with only 98psi on a vf39 with a safe toon. 0-60 in just under -2.3 secs. i thought that was pritty imprezive and i am now on the waiting lizt. yeeeeaaaaaaa!!!

chris

p.s. the people who start these threads make me sick... i don't care if you're a noob, there's a thing called common sense... use it...

Jaxx · 01-22-2005, 12:18 AM

pretty simple
227HP - ULEV
300HP - LEV
400HP - never gonna pass US emmissions

not in a 4 cyl trubo
subaru had to redesignate the outback as a truck to stay with in their emmisions standards as it is

Wagonboy · 01-22-2005, 02:10 AM

I think they should try a 6cyl turbo, that would be scary. It would just equate to larger car payments that I would be happy to make, if it is indeed 400hp.

Diabolical1 CC · 01-22-2005, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coati

So ... you're saying it will have runflats and no spare?

No spare wheel, just a tire.

kenzo · 01-22-2005, 07:34 AM

I wonder if I can set up a filter that won't display any thread with a title starting with "Dealer Says..."

X4 SRT · 01-22-2005, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaxx

pretty simple
227HP - ULEV
300HP - LEV
400HP - never gonna pass US emmissions

not in a 4 cyl trubo
subaru had to redesignate the outback as a truck to stay with in their emmisions standards as it is

Wrong! For example. The new ESX STi will sport 425hp be 50 state legal and still have the subaru factory warranty.

Mike Wevrick · 01-22-2005, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaxx

subaru had to redesignate the outback as a truck to stay with in their emmisions standards as it is

Not true; the Outback passes all car emissions etc. standards.; it is only a "truck" because of some technicalities of ground clearance etc.

STI Orenji · 01-22-2005, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaxx

subaru had to redesignate the outback as a truck to stay with in their emmisions standards as it is

then explain the legacy gt. So many people on this board spew talk out of their butts and act like they are experts.

bjy20716 · 01-22-2005, 11:03 AM

they have the 400hp fq400 Evo in England

bull3964 · 01-22-2005, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjy20716

they have the 400hp fq400 Evo in England

It's also not a very drivable vehicle.

Can we say turbo LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG.

It's fine for a track car, but as a daily driver the lower powered FQ versions are much better. Top Gear reported that they would take the FQ340 any day of the week over the FQ400 because it was just less of a chore to drive.

Ghost Rider · 01-22-2005, 12:09 PM

I would rather have a new STi coupe with 300 hp/lbs tq than a 400hp sedan.

only1agam · 01-22-2005, 12:16 PM

i REALLY doubt whether the Impreza/Forester will EVER have a H6.. they gotta differentiate bw their cars someway right? if you want an H6 get and Outback.. the sizes of all Subarus are too close right now.. they gotta at least differentiate by engines IMO

Mike Wevrick · 01-22-2005, 12:28 PM

agreed; I can see the WRX getting the 250 hp 2.5t but not the H6

Borti · 01-22-2005, 01:16 PM

If there was a 400 hp STi the price would be way to high and it would lose its image of an affordable sports car. And with that much power insurance would be waaaaay too high for me to even consider getting one.

1fastsube · 01-22-2005, 02:46 PM

Dealers are complete tards. Before I bought my 05 STI, I was looking at Evo's and went to a Mitsu dealer and asked if they had heard of the MR. They looked at me like I was on drugs and had never heard of it. A month later after I buy my STI, out comes the EVO MR. Dealers know nothing!

Diabolical1 CC · 01-22-2005, 03:00 PM

Legacy or even Outback STi that might be cool.

Although I might rather see a Monster Outback.

Say 12" clearance on a H6 Sedan. Air suspension and adjustable by 4 inches. 8.4 to 12.4 ?

PHATsuby · 01-22-2005, 03:25 PM

i guess no one really paid attention, they are testing a turbo H6 drivetrain....in a legacy, but thats not to say its going to actually be in a legacy. I doubt they would put it in an impreza, it could possibly be the H6TT drivetrain rumored to be for the B11S.

it should be noted that i dont actually know its for sure turbo, but using some common sense and logic, current 3.0 liter outputs 250, this is putting out 375 supposedly with same displacement, so i am assuming forced induction

Ben

persianpunisher · 01-22-2005, 03:45 PM

I dont think the WRX is a ULEV. in fact, I dont think any turbo models are. About 400hp, well, i mean I highly doubt the new Sti is going to be 400hp. The Evo VIII-FQ400 has 400 hp, and is INCREDIBLE. But then again its very pricy. I could, however, believe that subaru might make another version of the STi, like a more pricey and more displacement one, and THAT might have 400hp.

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01-21-2005, 08:04 PM	#28
PHATsuby Scooby Guru Member#: 13617 Join Date: Dec 2001 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: MN Vehicle: 2001 Legacy GT back to stock is a project too	well if general manager said it, it must be true... Honestly, dealerships are retards, I go there and laugh when they try to tell me about cars they know nothing about. then i educate them about them They are testing a H6 turbo drivetrain but i doubt they will release it next year. Ben

01-21-2005, 08:39 PM	#30
Timmysubie Scooby Newbie Member#: 67043 Join Date: Jul 2004 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Dublin Vehicle: 2005 WRX CGM Cobb stage 2!!	does it come with those uh things on the front..the um....light thingys. Also do you guys think it will compete with the new civic hatch. Oh one more thing, am i gonna be able to get and e-brake on it.

01-21-2005, 08:56 PM	#31
parker Member Status: Member Member#: 46241 Join Date: Oct 2003 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: Orison, Crusader. Stanton Vehicle: - Can I get a wayo	be interesting to see how right this dealer is. 98% of the time when i walk into one, i know more than anyone there. including some techs. i cant wait to see this new car but i hope it's four cylinder.

01-21-2005, 10:39 PM	#33
sneeky Scooby Specialist Member#: 44639 Join Date: Oct 2003 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: They say it's the armpit... Vehicle: STi the 35 awaits you...	well my dealer is smArter than all yours guyses... cause mine saids that it will have wings and be able to fly with only 98psi on a vf39 with a safe toon. 0-60 in just under -2.3 secs. i thought that was pritty imprezive and i am now on the waiting lizt. yeeeeaaaaaaa!!! chris p.s. the people who start these threads make me sick... i don't care if you're a noob, there's a thing called common sense... use it...

01-22-2005, 12:18 AM	#34
Jaxx Scooby Guru Member#: 177 Join Date: Aug 1999 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Austin, Texas, USA Vehicle: The 93 W/EJ20K-sold Subaru-less :(	pretty simple 227HP - ULEV 300HP - LEV 400HP - never gonna pass US emmissions not in a 4 cyl trubo subaru had to redesignate the outback as a truck to stay with in their emmisions standards as it is

01-22-2005, 02:10 AM	#35
Wagonboy Scooby Newbie Member#: 23813 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Austin, TX Vehicle: 04 STi White	I think they should try a 6cyl turbo, that would be scary. It would just equate to larger car payments that I would be happy to make, if it is indeed 400hp.

01-22-2005, 07:34 AM	#37
kenzo Scooby Specialist Member#: 6422 Join Date: May 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: 02WRX 04STi 05LGT 08S.B 14WRX Vehicle: 2018 A4 Quattro MT6 Glacier White	I wonder if I can set up a filter that won't display any thread with a title starting with "Dealer Says..."

01-22-2005, 11:03 AM	#41
bjy20716 Scooby Newbie Member#: 72069 Join Date: Oct 2004 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Chicago	they have the 400hp fq400 Evo in England

01-22-2005, 12:09 PM	#43
Ghost Rider Scooby Specialist Member#: 70346 Join Date: Sep 2004 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: NY Vehicle: 2017 Golf R Deep Black Pearl	I would rather have a new STi coupe with 300 hp/lbs tq than a 400hp sedan.

01-22-2005, 12:16 PM	#44
only1agam Scooby Specialist Member#: 56183 Join Date: Feb 2004 Chapter/Region: South East	i REALLY doubt whether the Impreza/Forester will EVER have a H6.. they gotta differentiate bw their cars someway right? if you want an H6 get and Outback.. the sizes of all Subarus are too close right now.. they gotta at least differentiate by engines IMO

01-22-2005, 12:28 PM	#45
Mike Wevrick RIP 1/19/64 - 7/23/11 Scooby Guru Member#: 24654 Join Date: Sep 2002 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: saraseager.com Vehicle: 1957 Taggart Comet atlasshruggedpart1.com	agreed; I can see the WRX getting the 250 hp 2.5t but not the H6

01-22-2005, 01:16 PM	#46
Borti Scooby Newbie Member#: 74403 Join Date: Nov 2004 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Vancouver, BC and Portland, Or	If there was a 400 hp STi the price would be way to high and it would lose its image of an affordable sports car. And with that much power insurance would be waaaaay too high for me to even consider getting one.

01-22-2005, 02:46 PM	#47
1fastsube Scooby Newbie Member#: 42567 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Eldersburg, MD Vehicle: 2005 STI Element GT65	Dealers are complete tards. Before I bought my 05 STI, I was looking at Evo's and went to a Mitsu dealer and asked if they had heard of the MR. They looked at me like I was on drugs and had never heard of it. A month later after I buy my STI, out comes the EVO MR. Dealers know nothing!

01-22-2005, 03:00 PM	#48
Diabolical1 CC * Banned * Member#: 59897 Join Date: Apr 2004	Legacy or even Outback STi that might be cool. Although I might rather see a Monster Outback. Say 12" clearance on a H6 Sedan. Air suspension and adjustable by 4 inches. 8.4 to 12.4 ?

01-22-2005, 03:25 PM	#49
PHATsuby Scooby Guru Member#: 13617 Join Date: Dec 2001 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: MN Vehicle: 2001 Legacy GT back to stock is a project too	i guess no one really paid attention, they are testing a turbo H6 drivetrain....in a legacy, but thats not to say its going to actually be in a legacy. I doubt they would put it in an impreza, it could possibly be the H6TT drivetrain rumored to be for the B11S. it should be noted that i dont actually know its for sure turbo, but using some common sense and logic, current 3.0 liter outputs 250, this is putting out 375 supposedly with same displacement, so i am assuming forced induction Ben

01-22-2005, 03:45 PM	#50
persianpunisher Scooby Newbie Member#: 68699 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sandy Vehicle: 2004 Impreza WRX Aspen White	I dont think the WRX is a ULEV. in fact, I dont think any turbo models are. About 400hp, well, i mean I highly doubt the new Sti is going to be 400hp. The Evo VIII-FQ400 has 400 hp, and is INCREDIBLE. But then again its very pricy. I could, however, believe that subaru might make another version of the STi, like a more pricey and more displacement one, and THAT might have 400hp.