FAQ Legacy vs WRX Suspension swap questions - Page 2

MYfirst00 · 04-30-2006, 05:52 PM

Here is what a BD sedan looks like with 02/03 WRX sedan suspension if anyone is interested

[IMG]http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a389/rallyGC8/Car***37;2012%20-%201998%20Subaru%20Legacy%20GT%20FAT%20STGII/wrx_susp1.jpg[/IMG]

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aldouse · 05-09-2006, 03:29 AM

you think the same concept applies w/ the 05 BL's to work w/ the 05/06 wrx's?

jamal · 05-09-2006, 05:06 AM

no. 00+ Legacies have a multi link rear suspension. The difference between 04 and 05/06 sti suspension is that the front knuckles are beefed up so the flanges on the strut are farther apart, as are the holes in the flanges. Which I just noticed is right at the bottom of my post. R->C->P

04-06 non-sti impreza suspension all has the same fitment.

MYfirst00- what is your alignment like?

Also, does anyone have 02+ wagon suspension on a Legacy?

MYfirst00 · 05-09-2006, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamal

no. 00+ Legacies have a multi link rear suspension. The difference between 04 and 05/06 sti suspension is that the front knuckles are beefed up so the flanges on the strut are farther apart, as are the holes in the flanges. Which I just noticed is right at the bottom of my post. R->C->P

04-06 non-sti impreza suspension all has the same fitment.

MYfirst00- what is your alignment like?

Also, does anyone have 02+ wagon suspension on a Legacy?

I haven't got it aligned yet. Driving doesn't feel like it really needs it to be honest.

vitai0 · 06-20-2006, 05:54 PM

So if i put a sedan 02 wrx suspension on my BG... would i have some camber issues or just a problem with the springs not being correct?... assuming i put in the whole assembly from the wrx.

goingfor400HP · 06-20-2006, 07:54 PM

OK, I just purchased a 97 Legacy GT...what chassis do I have?? I see too many BD, BG, BE, B4....can anyone name mine please??

Thanks
(Legacy Noob)

vitai0 · 06-20-2006, 08:14 PM

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=973119

please read this first.. its posted at the top of the legacy forum.

goingfor400HP · 06-20-2006, 08:25 PM

Thanks for being so gentle

I was googling it and found something saying the chassis was a B11, but I guess it is a BD.

Helps with ordering things!

vitai0 · 06-20-2006, 10:17 PM

Has any wagon owners used a sedan wrx suspension? had any problems or concerns/issues? thanks.

mike

spdracr00 · 06-20-2006, 10:21 PM

dont do it. You will have the "saggy" butt. wagon goes on wagon sedan on sedan. the rear spring rates are different, as well as the struts. trust me, this was my 1st setup. and i dumped it fast.

rougeben83 · 06-20-2006, 10:25 PM

Well, the question then is...will +05 legacy suspensions fit 00-04 BE/BH legacies? They seem to have a wider range of aftermarket support, particularly coilovers...

MitchGT · 06-21-2006, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rougeben83

Well, the question then is...will +05 legacy suspensions fit 00-04 BE/BH legacies? They seem to have a wider range of aftermarket support, particularly coilovers...

Nope. The 05+ uses a larger strut mount than all previous years.

Chandy69 · 07-14-2006, 02:11 AM

This is great help! Cheers to you guys!

phat56pat56 · 09-06-2006, 11:08 PM

ok soooooo my question would be if i wanted to put a full body coil over on a 92 legacy could i just use an application for the 04 imprezza?????

spdracr00 · 09-07-2006, 01:40 AM

93-01 impreza stuff will bolt up as long as you swap the front upper perches. if you wanna use anything 02+ you will need to use the stock tophats+perches for the rear.

i just put a full 01 2.5rs suspension on my 92 legacy L, it dropped it 1: f/r and i needed the front impreza spring perches but everything else bolted up fine.

Electronblue · 11-23-2006, 11:50 AM

ok, so I have a 97 LGT Wagon, so to swap to WRX stuff, I need to find a WRX WAGON (02-03) and grab the shocks/springs. then, use the tops from MY 97 BG on the WRX parts? I saw an article a while back that shows that you can drill out the mounting holes in the chassis to angle the suspension correctly to get rid of the Camber issues...

But it was for a 93 legacy with 04 STI suspension..

Is any of that applicable to my 97?
(ive only had the car a few days now... so im not very familiar with the suspension yet)
http://www-scf.usc.edu/~leclaire/car...suspension.htm

spdracr00 · 11-23-2006, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electronblue

ok, so I have a 97 LGT Wagon, so to swap to WRX stuff, I need to find a WRX WAGON (02-03) and grab the shocks/springs. then, use the tops from MY 97 BG on the WRX parts? I saw an article a while back that shows that you can drill out the mounting holes in the chassis to angle the suspension correctly to get rid of the Camber issues...

you got it. and save yourself the hassles and just get some camber bolts for the rear.

but if you can i'd try and find some BG springs but the wrx is a cheap and fairly easy route... just not the best.

-ben

Electronblue · 11-23-2006, 06:53 PM

on the same car, what if I just buy aftermarket WRX Wagon suspension? Still works with my tops?

rougeben83 · 11-23-2006, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electronblue

on the same car, what if I just buy aftermarket WRX Wagon suspension? Still works with my tops?

Yes. I think ten80's donor WRX is a wagon; you can pm him for stuff since he can't use some of the suspension pieces in his BE swap.

azn2nr · 04-02-2007, 01:20 PM

im so confused after reading all of this. but from what i gather its not quite as simple as just use wrx springs and that wrx top hats and struts are a must???

MYfirst00 · 04-02-2007, 01:24 PM

As long as the Legacy tophats are used with the legacy springs, or the wrx tophats are used with the wrx springs, any strut can be used from either model.

Kraziken · 04-02-2007, 03:16 PM

Armed with this information, I'm wondering if anyone has tried '03 JDM STI springs on a BD/BG?

MYfirst00 · 04-02-2007, 03:19 PM

That would be the same as trying an 04' USDM STI style setup, wouldn't it?

jamal · 04-02-2007, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electronblue

ok, so I have a 97 LGT Wagon, so to swap to WRX stuff, I need to find a WRX WAGON (02-03) and grab the shocks/springs. then, use the tops from MY 97 BG on the WRX parts? I saw an article a while back that shows that you can drill out the mounting holes in the chassis to angle the suspension correctly to get rid of the Camber issues...

But it was for a 93 legacy with 04 STI suspension..

Is any of that applicable to my 97?
(ive only had the car a few days now... so im not very familiar with the suspension yet)
http://www-scf.usc.edu/~leclaire/car...suspension.htm

Hey that's me. For you it's different though. Any full setup for an 02-07 WRX wagon will bolt right up to your car since a 2nd gen Legacy has the same pattern as a second gen (02-07) Impreza. I'm not sure what your camber will be like though. Possibly the same.

zeile · 04-02-2007, 03:53 PM

how big of a drop is it from LGT sedan suspention to WRX?

04-30-2006, 05:52 PM	#26
MYfirst00 Scooby Specialist Member#: 22928 Join Date: Aug 2002 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Fitchburg, MA Vehicle: 2015 Legacy Limited Lapis Blue	Here is what a BD sedan looks like with 02/03 WRX sedan suspension if anyone is interested [IMG]http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a389/rallyGC8/Car**37;2012%20-%201998%20Subaru%20Legacy%20GT%20FAT%20STGII/wrx_susp1.jpg[/IMG] Registered users of the site do not see these ads. Last edited by MYfirst00; 04-02-2007 at 01:34 PM.

05-09-2006, 05:06 AM	#28
jamal Scooby Guru Member#: 71875 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Montana	no. 00+ Legacies have a multi link rear suspension. The difference between 04 and 05/06 sti suspension is that the front knuckles are beefed up so the flanges on the strut are farther apart, as are the holes in the flanges. Which I just noticed is right at the bottom of my post. R->C->P 04-06 non-sti impreza suspension all has the same fitment. MYfirst00- what is your alignment like? Also, does anyone have 02+ wagon suspension on a Legacy? Last edited by jamal; 05-09-2006 at 06:55 AM.

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aldouse Scooby Newbie Member#: 99848 Join Date: Nov 2005 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: Milpitas Vehicle: 2021 Ascent Magnetite Gray Metallic	you think the same concept applies w/ the 05 BL's to work w/ the 05/06 wrx's?

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vitai0 Scooby Newbie Member#: 103245 Join Date: Dec 2005 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: San Diego, CA Vehicle: 1967 912 STi Spec C Ivory White	http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=973119 please read this first.. its posted at the top of the legacy forum.

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goingfor400HP Scooby Specialist Member#: 37375 Join Date: May 2003 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Methuen, MASS Vehicle: 2002 WRX Silver	Thanks for being so gentle I was googling it and found something saying the chassis was a B11, but I guess it is a BD. Helps with ordering things!

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vitai0 Scooby Newbie Member#: 103245 Join Date: Dec 2005 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: San Diego, CA Vehicle: 1967 912 STi Spec C Ivory White	Has any wagon owners used a sedan wrx suspension? had any problems or concerns/issues? thanks. mike

06-20-2006, 10:21 PM	#35
spdracr00 Scooby Specialist Member#: 65823 Join Date: Jul 2004 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Beaverton, OR Vehicle: 2018 Impreza Sport Pearl White	dont do it. You will have the "saggy" butt. wagon goes on wagon sedan on sedan. the rear spring rates are different, as well as the struts. trust me, this was my 1st setup. and i dumped it fast.

06-20-2006, 10:25 PM	#36
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11-23-2006, 11:50 AM	#41
Electronblue Scooby Newbie Member#: 105290 Join Date: Jan 2006 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Blacksburg, VA Vehicle: 97 Legacy GT Wagon Silver	ok, so I have a 97 LGT Wagon, so to swap to WRX stuff, I need to find a WRX WAGON (02-03) and grab the shocks/springs. then, use the tops from MY 97 BG on the WRX parts? I saw an article a while back that shows that you can drill out the mounting holes in the chassis to angle the suspension correctly to get rid of the Camber issues... But it was for a 93 legacy with 04 STI suspension.. Is any of that applicable to my 97? (ive only had the car a few days now... so im not very familiar with the suspension yet) http://www-scf.usc.edu/~leclaire/car...suspension.htm

11-23-2006, 06:53 PM	#43
Electronblue Scooby Newbie Member#: 105290 Join Date: Jan 2006 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Blacksburg, VA Vehicle: 97 Legacy GT Wagon Silver	on the same car, what if I just buy aftermarket WRX Wagon suspension? Still works with my tops?

04-02-2007, 01:20 PM	#45
azn2nr Scooby Specialist Member#: 35276 Join Date: Apr 2003 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: Salt Lake City, UT	im so confused after reading all of this. but from what i gather its not quite as simple as just use wrx springs and that wrx top hats and struts are a must???

04-02-2007, 01:24 PM	#46
MYfirst00 Scooby Specialist Member#: 22928 Join Date: Aug 2002 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Fitchburg, MA Vehicle: 2015 Legacy Limited Lapis Blue	As long as the Legacy tophats are used with the legacy springs, or the wrx tophats are used with the wrx springs, any strut can be used from either model.

04-02-2007, 03:16 PM	#47
Kraziken Scooby Specialist Member#: 38629 Join Date: Jun 2003 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Northwest Vehicle: 1999 Legacy GT (STI) White	Armed with this information, I'm wondering if anyone has tried '03 JDM STI springs on a BD/BG?

04-02-2007, 03:19 PM	#48
MYfirst00 Scooby Specialist Member#: 22928 Join Date: Aug 2002 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Fitchburg, MA Vehicle: 2015 Legacy Limited Lapis Blue	That would be the same as trying an 04' USDM STI style setup, wouldn't it?

04-02-2007, 03:53 PM	#50
zeile Scooby Newbie Member#: 128309 Join Date: Oct 2006	how big of a drop is it from LGT sedan suspention to WRX?