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Old 11-01-2005, 11:12 AM   #1
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Default What would you pay for a '98 LGT w/wrx Swap and broken Tranny?

I bumped into this Guy who has a a '98 Legacy GT Limited with complete 2003 WRX swap. I am assuming it's all done right because I saw the CA state referee sticker, but I know assumption are the mothers of all f-ups. Anyway, I am going to look into more details of the car but...heres my question. It has a broken tranny and he wants to get rid of the car for a new STi. If all is ok with the car, then how much should I ask to pay for it?

Wrx tranny is like 1100 from a yard and install should be one Sat, right?

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Old 11-01-2005, 11:29 AM   #2
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a 98 GT books for 4800 in "good" condition w/ 80k miles

and mods don't increase value

yeah not a tough install .. w/o a lift you will have to pull the motor
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Old 11-01-2005, 11:34 AM   #3
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I like your thought on that, but I do not think he will bite for $5k
All the work, except the tranny, has been done. I have seen RS conversions sell for 11+K. Am I crazy cause I was thinking around 10k or a little more?
( maybe I didn't make it clear in my 1st post. The LGT already has a swap done to it)

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Old 11-01-2005, 12:02 PM   #4
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Never buy a car whose owner cannot demonstrate that al parts are fully functional. The transmission may be hiding a BUNCH of other problems.

There are a ton of better cars out there.
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Old 11-01-2005, 12:04 PM   #5
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how many miles are on the body/motor? that will help in figuring out what its worth. the car is also 7 years old. i would say i'd pay around 7k for it, assuming that there is no other issue with it besides the tranny. body should be good, everything else should be in good working order. pay close attention to the wiring job on the swap. a bad wiring job (ie hack job) will probably cause you problems in the future.

mods CAN increase value if you are targetting the right buyer. a swapped car is definately worth more than the same car with stock motor, especially if the mileage is low.
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Old 11-01-2005, 03:20 PM   #6
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my brother just sold his 95 legacy LS with WRX swap with a bunch of upgrades (VF34 and stuff) for $8,000. for a car with a broken tranny, even with a WRX swap, i would offer him about $5,000-$7,000 depending on the body's condition and other "goodies"
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Old 11-01-2005, 04:44 PM   #7
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I like your thought on that, but I do not think he will bite for $5k
All the work, except the tranny, has been done. I have seen RS conversions sell for 11+K. Am I crazy cause I was thinking around 10k or a little more?
( maybe I didn't make it clear in my 1st post. The LGT already has a swap done to it)

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thats because RS are selling for 11k+ legacys arn't
i wouldn't offer over 6000
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Old 11-01-2005, 06:14 PM   #8
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Don't assume anything. Ask many questions. Who did the swap would be the number one question. Is it a bacjyard job or I-Speed. Not to say all backyard jobs are hack jobs. There are a lot of us here who do swaps as a side thing and do it factory correct. But being able to speak to the person who did the swap can tell you a lot.

And is there a WRX tranny in there right now? Not all swaps get tranny swaps at the same time. If it has a WRX tranny, see if he still have the GT tranny. Better ratios, IMO. You might be able to get a decent deal together.

I wouldn't pay more than $6000 for the car. I figured $5000 for the car, plus $2500 for the WRX parts, minus $1500 to replace the tranny. If he tries to tell you it cost $3000 in labor to do the swap and wants that in the price, walk away. Even if he paid I-speed or Lachute or Rallispec to do the swap, that is a sunken price that provides no added value. Im my book only the WRX parts themselves contribute to the value...
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Old 11-01-2005, 06:17 PM   #9
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Oh,
And I regularly see STOCK powered RS's sell for $10-11,000. So an $11k RS with a swap didn't sell for anything special...
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Old 11-01-2005, 06:27 PM   #10
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*wonders if he is on matts ignore list* you said the same thing as me
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Old 11-01-2005, 09:52 PM   #11
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yeah not a tough install .. w/o a lift you will have to pull the motor
That's not true. I've pulled and installed a trans with just floor jacks under the car in my basement. It's not fun, but definitely doable.

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Old 11-01-2005, 09:59 PM   #12
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That's not true. I've pulled and installed a trans with just floor jacks under the car in my basement. It's not fun, but definitely doable.

Cam
How the heck did you get your car into your basement?
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Old 11-01-2005, 10:19 PM   #13
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How the heck did you get your car into your basement?
The stairs were very tricky, but I did a little General Lee 2 wheel style action and it fit j/k

I guess I should call it a garage since it has garage doors, but it is below ground level (at least on the front side of the house).

Consider this a free bump,

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Old 11-01-2005, 11:52 PM   #14
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narf. yeha. pulling motor is arguably easier, but arguably not easier. that having said, i just said nothing.

ive done about 6 gearboxes from the bottoms.

labor is sunk cost, post some picutres for the conversion peanut gallery of the car (engine shots, wiring shots, pot shots, etc) and we will scrutininise for you.

oh yeah, we're also really cheap too so if you actually listen to us you'll probably save some money. hahah

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Old 11-02-2005, 01:17 AM   #15
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Update:

I found out that the car was actually an I-speed conversion.
Mods: Wilwood front four pots, VF30, ecu reflash, agx and ground control sus, and broken tranny.

I will try and get pics for some of your review

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Old 11-02-2005, 03:30 AM   #16
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Never buy a car whose owner cannot demonstrate that al parts are fully functional. The transmission may be hiding a BUNCH of other problems.

There are a ton of better cars out there.
awesome advice right there ladies and gentlemen...never forget it either
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Old 11-02-2005, 08:09 PM   #17
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a 98 GT books for 4800 in "good" condition w/ 80k miles

and mods don't increase value

yeah not a tough install .. w/o a lift you will have to pull the motor
Ive done 5 subaru clutches and have never pulled the engine or used a lift. Its just a bitch to do so.
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Old 11-06-2005, 12:13 PM   #18
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awesome advice right there ladies and gentlemen...never forget it either
Thanks for the feedback everyone I will look into it a bit more before I commit.

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Old 11-08-2005, 10:06 AM   #19
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Best advice someone gave me when I considered JDM WRX into my Legacy.

You may be able to generate the same power as a WRX, but it wont dance like one.
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