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Old 10-15-2004, 02:05 PM   #26
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I didn't read the post but good luck registering it. From what I know you'd only be able to register it if you can prove that the car will eventually end up in the U.S. again.

Believe it or not when Car prices are set by manufactueres the Canadian market gets a lower price schedule, but with the climbing loonie US cars start looking pretty cheap.

Let me know how it goes.

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Old 10-15-2004, 04:14 PM   #27
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I didn't read the post but good luck registering it...
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I'll remember that when I'm driving mine for 10K less than you.
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Old 10-15-2004, 07:35 PM   #28
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As long as you do it legally, you'll be fine. Pay all the taxes and fees required and you shouldn't have any problems. Great price, HIDs, you could add heated seats if you want. The registry lady will need the paperwork from Customs which will show that it is here legally and all taxes have been paid. She must have it to register the car. Your insurance agent will need the VIN also.

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Old 11-01-2004, 03:03 PM   #29
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Has anyone here imported a STi from the US to Canada?
Iím looking for some more info on doing this as itís possible to get the
Car for invoice in the US via some dealers and now this Subaru ďVIPĒ program.

STi $46,995 CAD (MSRP)
STi $28,580 USD (Invoice) = $37,908.52 CAD
Thatís roughly a $9,000 savings, I imagine with paper work and adding daytime running lights its could cost a few thousand more still letís say it brings to down to 5 grand savings.. Thatís a few mods thatís can be had for basically free (free winter tires/rims)
plus you will have HIDS!!!!

Someone who has actually imported a car please send me some info!

or just a list of things that will have to be modified.
never thought about that...

good luck on getting your REAL USDM STI and let us know how you did it and finally you end up how much money you saved
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Old 11-02-2004, 01:48 AM   #30
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never thought about that...

good luck on getting your REAL USDM STI and let us know how you did it and finally you end up how much money you saved
I never ended up doing it.. but its ever lower now that the canadian dollar is going up...

28,580.00 USD = 34,927.19 CAD
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Old 11-02-2004, 02:19 AM   #31
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been interested in doing this with another car and all.....but one thing you should check is insurance premium. i know it's sounds off topic, it's the SAME car, but when i seriously asked about this 2 years ago the insurance premium was a lot more. i think like 40-50% more because it is a USDM car. i was asking about a supra, but anyhow, even eclipse owners pay more for insurance than talon owners. not definate, because i didn't do it, but just a heads up!

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Old 11-02-2004, 09:56 PM   #32
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I have a friend who bought a Humvee a real US army one in the states. When he brought it across the border the US recalled it and he spent a fortune getting it across the border. Something like $15,000 Canadian. Now it was US Military which had something to do with it and his paper works need an export permit and there was a US Canada tiff with them PM Chretin visiting Cuba and they objected to the grenade launcher mount (no grenade launcher included) it took him 6 months to get it but he got it eventually.

$5000? Delivery will be between $1200 and 2000 US, depends where you buy from. Brokerage fees can be any amount I guessed 1/2% of total value: $500. 7% GST on everything, 7% duty, State taxes and US taxes, Inspections and additional paperwork. $5000 Canadian doesn't sound too unreasonable.

However if you do a Search of Autotrader.ca you can buy in Canada for alot less then MSRP so why go to the states to buy a lesser product?
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Old 11-02-2004, 10:40 PM   #33
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Brokerage fees? There should be absolutely no brokerage fees. Reason being is that the final purchaser buying the car MUST be the one's who's signature is at the bottom of the ALL import papers. That means that the next owner of whatever product is legally responsible for all importing fees & is accountable to any punishment, under law. If you fill out the information yourself (even with the aid of a customs officer - at no charge), you will have ZERO brokerage fees.

Once a vehicle, or any item for that matter, enters Canada, it must me compliant w/ all rules governing the usage of that item. For a vehicle that will be registered for use in Canada, it MUST be inspected by a licensed facility IN CANADA. US inspections DO NOT have merit as far as Canada Customs is concerned.

AT no time, EVER, does a Canadian citizen have to pay federal or state tax, on any item, other than tobaco, alcohol, & firearms.

I import vehicles on a weekly basis. And not just from the US. I have an import license, for ease & professional reputation w/ Canada Cusoms & also because I am a volume importer. It makes things run more smoothly on both sides of the transaction. For a one time a year purchase, you do not need an importing license. I have been in this business awhile now. I have never paid more than 7% GST, 6.9% vehilce duty, (AB-no prov. tax), a $5 paper processing fee, tire levy, AC environmental levy & zero brokerage fees. Maybe b/c I like to be the one in charge of my own purchases. But if someone where going through the hassle of buying a US car & then making it CDN compliant, I don't know why one wouldn't want to be involved in every aspect of such a purchase.

All importing fee information is available on the Canada Customs website. They even have examples. Everything from antique baby cribs to $1M diamond jewelry as a gift.
Sorry if I come off being an *******. I just hate bad information being circulated to friends on this board. We're all friends here right?

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Old 11-03-2004, 01:14 AM   #34
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I second Damain's post - way too much FUD in here. It can be done, it has been done and yes you will save a lot of cash. In fact Paul at Rally has wired up DRLs for the safety check.
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Old 11-03-2004, 01:14 PM   #35
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...Once a vehicle, or any item for that matter, enters Canada, it must me compliant w/ all rules governing the usage of that item...

I import vehicles on a weekly basis. And not just from the US. I have an import license, for ease & professional reputation w/ Canada Customs & also because I am a volume importer.... For a one time a year purchase, you do not need an importing license. I have been in this business awhile now. I have never paid more than 7% GST, 6.9% vehilce duty, (AB-no prov. tax), a $5 paper processing fee, tire levy, AC environmental levy & zero brokerage fees....
So, the car has to be made compliant to Canadian standards eh? I guess that means bye-bye to the HID headlights. As far as I know all HIDs have to be autoleveling and the USDM STi's lights are manually operated.

Damianq: Did you get your Subie from the States, and where were you when I was buying my STi

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Old 11-03-2004, 01:40 PM   #36
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So, the car has to be made compliant to Canadian standards eh? I guess that means bye-bye to the HID headlights. -J
Why do you think the HIDs have to be removed? They are wired so that they are on all of the time. Or, wire the fogs to be on all the time. The safety check can be done at Canadian Tire and do you think they have a clue?
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Why do you think the HIDs have to be removed?
Not a matter of DRL but of the Canadian requirement that all HIDs have to be auto-leveling. This is why the CDM STi doesn't have HID. Canadian tire may not have a clue but when you go to register it with a US VIN the registrar might ask.

You seem pretty touchy about thiis subject so maybe I'll just sit back and watch the thread.

Best of luck.

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Old 11-03-2004, 11:30 PM   #38
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Damianq: Did you get your Subie from the States, and where were you when I was buying my STi
I bought my Subie in CGY, hell of a deal. I don't import Subaru's, yet. Not enough of a market for them. Almost all the stuff I have brought in is NOT for road use. Almost always for racing or parts.

And I'm sure you're not still griping about having an STi in the frist place.

BTW, CDN Tire is not an approved inspection facility. Very few shops are. Legislation as of May 2003 states that you must have ALL testing equipment within one location. Last I checked, C/T does not have a frame checker/alignment machine nor personal trained for unibodydamage/repair.
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And I'm sure you're not still griping about having an STi in the frist place.
It's a tough life. Guys want to be me and the ladies want to be with me

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Old 11-04-2004, 12:01 AM   #40
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I bought my Subie in CGY, hell of a deal. I don't import Subaru's, yet. Not enough of a market for them. Almost all the stuff I have brought in is NOT for road use. Almost always for racing or parts.

And I'm sure you're not still griping about having an STi in the frist place.

BTW, CDN Tire is not an approved inspection facility. Very few shops are. Legislation as of May 2003 states that you must have ALL testing equipment within one location. Last I checked, C/T does not have a frame checker/alignment machine nor personal trained for unibodydamage/repair.
Canadian tire is approved
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Old 11-04-2004, 03:56 PM   #41
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BTW, CDN Tire is not an approved inspection facility.

RIV says otherwise?
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Old 11-04-2004, 11:00 PM   #42
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For Out of Province inspections, yes. For Transport Canada Vehicle Compliance inspections, NO. In addition to the federal inspection, you also need an O.O.P. inspection before you can legally register it, at least in AB. I found this out the hard way. Now I only import to port cities where these inspections are done.
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Yeah, just forget about importing its impossible. The FUD runneth over in here.
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Old 11-06-2004, 12:56 AM   #44
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For Out of Province inspections, yes. For Transport Canada Vehicle Compliance inspections, NO. In addition to the federal inspection, you also need an O.O.P. inspection before you can legally register it, at least in AB. I found this out the hard way. Now I only import to port cities where these inspections are done.
Ok, damianq, I'm also in AB. Into what cities then do you import? Also, why the 6% duty? I'm seriously thinking about importing an acura MDX (already have my subie), and I'm not sure a duty would be assessed as it is manufactured in Canada.

Heck, since you're the only person I've been able to find that has done this sort of thing--do you mind writing up a document that encompasses everything. With the dollar at $0.835 and rising, there will probably be significant interest in the subject.

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Ok, here's another variation. Let's say I had the money to buy Big Adventure's '04 WRX wagon with the EJ207 swap with six speed etc. How would this be handled at inspection? Do they check for matching numbers? Do an emissions test?
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Ok, damianq, I'm also in AB. Into what cities then do you import? Also, why the 6% duty? I'm seriously thinking about importing an acura MDX (already have my subie), and I'm not sure a duty would be assessed as it is manufactured in Canada.

Heck, since you're the only person I've been able to find that has done this sort of thing--do you mind writing up a document that encompasses everything. With the dollar at $0.835 and rising, there will probably be significant interest in the subject.

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I import into mostly Vancouver & funny enough Hamilton. THey both have excellent distribution & transport network extending from both cities. Plus both have enough federal inspection facilities that I never have to wait very long for one to get comleteted before I can ship via train.

The MDX may posess an interesting loophole. You can technically purchase your car from a dealer in the US as a special order. Once it comes off the assemble line, the Honda dealer network may allow you to take delivery from a Canadian Honda/Acura dealer. It would still be a US bound vehicle so you would still have to convert it to CDN standards (speedo in kms, CDN front rebar, & whatever esle is different). I've even heard som some ppl taking delivery of thier US bound vehicles right off the delivery trailer outside the plant, though it was not a Honda product. Now b/c the car had never left CDN soil, you would "technically" NOT have to pay the import duty. Now I don't knwo for certain that you can avoid the duty b/c it is a US sale or inspite the fact that is is a US sale. The information available online is difficult to distinguish exactly when they DO apply duty.

With the dollar rising there will very soon be a push made by CDN dealerships to have to feds pass legislation heavily restricting the import of NEW US vehicles in to Canada. There is such a restriction in AB for trucks. A friend of mine bought a truck a couple of years ago, an MDX, in fact. He had to sign a document saying that he would not sell the truck to a US citizen or company that would then export the truck to the US. At the time the CDN dollar was taking a beating & dealers were selling cheap so the savings we are getting now were being had by US buyers.

The information for importing a car to Canada are available on the site federal site mentioned earlier in this thread. If you follow the links, you can find out just about all the information AND forms you will need to import a car from the US.
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Ok, here's another variation. Let's say I had the money to buy Big Adventure's '04 WRX wagon with the EJ207 swap with six speed etc. How would this be handled at inspection? Do they check for matching numbers? Do an emissions test?
Numbers do not have to match on a car that has always had a clear title. But full documentation is necessary on cars that have been rebuilt or carry a "repaired" title, from a "damaged" or "written" off status. A "salvage" title is the only title that can never be put on the road again.
No matter what USED car you buy from any person, it must pass all CDN standards. As far as an emmissions test goes, specifically. I have never had one performed here in Canada. Usually documentation that has an emmissions breakdown numbers on it will suffice as long as they pass federal standards for that model year.
In this case, as long as Big Adventure's '04 WRX wagon has the equivalent of 6000kms on it & be more than "X" days old, you can buy it as a used car. FWIW, US bound cars from Canada must have 2000 equivalent miles & "X" days old on them to be considered used. Or it might be the other way around. I don't remember what "x" is. I buy cars significantly (5-50 years) older.
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