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Old 04-15-2014, 07:10 PM   #51
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Yeah. They both will.

I told him he has until Friday to pay and ill take all this down and have the thread locked. If it goes past that ill be working with an attorney and this will be staying up for the world to see. Its his choice.

Thats a good point. I will be contacting the local sheriff too. Not 100% sure but I believe seizure of assets is possible. Ill find out when I talk to my attorney.

Btw here's an example of being a professional


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Oh right is me in all these texts, left is him
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Old 04-30-2014, 03:04 PM   #52
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curious to see if there are any further updates
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Old 04-30-2014, 04:34 PM   #53
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curious to see if there are any further updates
Not a ton has happened. Gotten quite a few PMs stating that Jon and Jack are definitely related, and intimately. This isn't just some guy that is buying parts from Jack and vice versa.

There's more to this than people know.

I have talked to the local Sheriff there and will be filing court paperwork to have them both served and force them to appear in front of a judge in CA. Basically as far as the Sheriff told me, and a lawyer buddy confirmed, Jon acted as an agent of ForceWerkz when he sold me those parts. So if I really wanted I could go after FW to get my money back, it is a bit more difficult. Basically Jack would have to furnish proof that Jon never worked for him, it'd cost him money and time.

Regardless, just hopes this help prevent people from buying parts from either of those guys.
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Old 04-30-2014, 09:46 PM   #54
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wish i knew about this earlier... would not have bought my cs lip... quality is bad.. both sides are short near the wheel well
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Old 04-30-2014, 11:18 PM   #55
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All their stuff is garbage. Don't buy their junk people
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Old 05-01-2014, 03:41 AM   #56
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JON/JONMOTORING IS FORCEWERKZ!!!!!

BUYER BEWARE! DO NOT BUY FROM THIS CROOK! HE SELLS CHEAP AND FAULTY KNOCK-OFFS OF OTHER PRODUCTS THAT COME FROM TAIWAN!

Jon, It's all coming back to you now.
I knew that your shady business actions would come back to bite you in the ass. You fvcked over one too many people (including me) and karma's a bitch. I would've came after your ass, but I KNEW that nature would take it's course. You reap what you sow!
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Old 05-01-2014, 08:57 PM   #57
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Personally have been keeping as far from anything related to forceworks just to avoid any issues that have been stated.

Sorry if forceworks is actually a good company but this Jon guy has ruined it for me completely. I'd take my chances with eBay parts before going with anything he sells.
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Old 05-02-2014, 12:00 AM   #58
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How are these guys still selling on here? NASIOC is turning to ****. Good job, mods.
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Old 05-02-2014, 07:54 PM   #59
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Had to register after I read this thread. I thank the poster of this thread for saving me money and heartache. This will probably be my first and last post in these forums as the moderators condone thievery. Best of luck to the people that were ripped off by this crook and how sad it really is that this forum allows thieves to operate with impunity and even worse defends thieves. Good luck all
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Old 05-03-2014, 01:25 AM   #60
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This really sucks to read about and have thought about buying parts from him. After seeing his full name I actually know his facebook page and he is part of a SoCal car group. I only put it together because looking at his facebook profile show he works for Forcewerkz
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Old 05-04-2014, 10:01 AM   #61
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Where does union performance fit into this whole thing, just another layer of inception??
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Old 05-04-2014, 10:56 AM   #62
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I did a quick search of their phone number on Forums and Jack/Jon came up on another forum as the number of record for UP.
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Old 05-04-2014, 03:17 PM   #63
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They're probably creating new vendor names cause people keep catching them selling crappy crap
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Old 05-04-2014, 04:14 PM   #64
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I've bought a couple things from union before. Granted my last order took about a week to ship and the parts are definitely knock offs, but I haven't had any serious issues with them.
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Old 05-04-2014, 09:25 PM   #65
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What a joke, Is there no level people won't go? Ripping off good Subaru owners? Anyway I'm glad I read this I almost bought some forcewerks fender flares, saved me 500 bucks. Should be called farcewerkz lol.
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Old 05-13-2014, 09:25 AM   #66
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Yuck. Never buying from these guys.
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Old 05-21-2014, 03:13 PM   #67
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Isn't Forcewerkz the company Import Image is puching for fender flares? IIR the "fender flare" thread has some discussion about ForceWerkz. Hopefully I am wrong about this, I'd hate to see Josh/Import Image pushing a product from such a shady individual/multiple personality/multiple business type person.
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Old 05-22-2014, 03:15 PM   #68
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Isn't Forcewerkz the company Import Image is puching for fender flares? IIR the "fender flare" thread has some discussion about ForceWerkz. Hopefully I am wrong about this, I'd hate to see Josh/Import Image pushing a product from such a shady individual/multiple personality/multiple business type person.
http://www.importimageracing.com/shopby/forcewerkz.html

That makes me very

Have dealt with IIR before in the past and been very satisfied... but I can't believe they are selling this crap.

I also cant believe this fiasco with Forcewerkz/jon/jack/jill/whoever is still going on with Besthaticouldo.
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Old 05-22-2014, 04:32 PM   #69
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I'm staying out of this, my 2 cents. The flares have worked out fine. Anything i've sold through forcewerkz hasn't had any problems, one or two damaged items but they get replaced. Other then that we've had nothing but happy customers, that is why they buy from us.

When this thread was originally made, he claimed to be selling a part and I got dragged into it. it wasn't anything to do with IIR...so unless it has to do with IIR, im out. We take care of our customers
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Old 05-22-2014, 05:45 PM   #70
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I'm staying out of this, my 2 cents. The flares have worked out fine. Anything i've sold through forcewerkz hasn't had any problems, one or two damaged items but they get replaced. Other then that we've had nothing but happy customers, that is why they buy from us.

When this thread was originally made, he claimed to be selling a part and I got dragged into it. it wasn't anything to do with IIR...so unless it has to do with IIR, im out. We take care of our customers
Liked and agreed. I wasn't calling you out by any means. I'm a very satisfied IIR customer. Maybe the flares are produced elsewhere. Idk. Good luck to the OP and keep on keepin on IIR
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Old 05-23-2014, 07:34 PM   #71
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Well... This is disturbing... But I will share my experience with Jon.

I purchased CF side skirts last winter. I paid and received the skirts. I didn't open the box and hid it from my wife. About 2 weeks ago I decided I would out these on and be wowed. I opened the box and found both pieces broken. The box had been bent and the product broke.

I emailed jon and explained what had happened. Knowing it had been several months since I received the broken skirts and didn't check them. I had doubts I would receive any replacements and/or refund. I sent my email anyways..

A fee days later he said he normally wouldn't refund this because it had been several months (almost 6); however, he offered me some frp skirts in it's place. Not the same, but much better than I thought considering it had been half a year.

So... Maybe he has learned a lesson in ethics. I would buy from him again.
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Old 06-06-2014, 02:50 PM   #72
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100% hasn't learned a lesson in ethics. Still dodging emails and calls and texts. He won't respond to anyone at all.
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Old 06-22-2014, 01:14 AM   #73
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So my story is, I live in Arizona, Today a local Subaru enthusiast had a set of forcewerkz skirt extensions up for sale. I contacted the seller, but then told me that he decided to keep the extensions. I then look into the skirts and forcewerkz. I almost pulled the trigger on buying the skirts from the forcewerkz' website, but I was at my sister's new apartment without internet which led me unable to place an order. I saw a thread from Jonmotoring selling the extensions, to which I proceed to send a PM about price and installed pics. I have yet to receive a PM response, but coming across this thread I am confused.

How did a buddy of mine have a set of skirt extensions from forcewerkz if they aren't a legit company?

I'm not saying nobody in here got screwed, but where can I get the skirt extensions without getting screwed like my local guy?
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Old 07-07-2014, 10:22 AM   #74
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You don't have to be a legit company to sell cheap chinese knock off crap...

I'm not sure what is hard to understand I guess...
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Old 07-17-2014, 12:21 AM   #75
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Holy crap stumbled upon this after googling who I thought I bought my junk front lip from. Never knew all this happened Best. I remember saying where I bought the lip to you last year in STL and you said that guy was shady as ****.

Now it all makes sense. To be honest the lip is probably worth $10, **** fasteners, **** fitment, cheap feel. I learned my lesson on that one.

If it makes you feel better, this is the first search result when looking for him as a vendor. Comes before his group buy threads
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