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Old 11-20-2018, 06:27 PM   #101
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I’ve been eyeing Stoptech Sport pads, anyone has any experience with them?
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Old 03-09-2019, 10:50 AM   #102
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It's encouraging to see both Carbotech and G-loc pads being available through KNSbrakes.


FWIW, I never found the original HPS pads to be dusty at all (or in ~2010 and later years to have particularly good bite either). You only got dust from Hawks in HP+ and up, along with severe rates of rotor wear if you ran up very many street miles with them.

The lower grades of track pads from either Carbotech or G-loc (with numbers 6, 8, and 10) have bite similar to HP+, still dust about as badly as HP+, but are virtually as gentle on your rotors as the original HPS compound.

Noise is comparable to HP+, which can be minimized if you occasionally do some much harder stopping than what most normal street driving typically requires. Do check your mirrors for following traffic first.


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Old 04-05-2019, 01:39 PM   #103
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I've been eyeing ebc rotors and yellowstuff pads for my 06 wrx. I loved ebc pads on my street bikes but I don't have any first hand experience with their car brakes. I've run hawk and stoptech in the past and didn't love or hate them. Anyone recommend ebc?
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Old 04-05-2019, 01:43 PM   #104
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Iíve been eyeing Stoptech Sport pads, anyone has any experience with them?
They were good pads on my daily. Theyve lasted a long time but didn't really stand out as anything super special. I'd buy them again if I wasn't looking for something more aggressive.
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Old 05-18-2020, 12:01 AM   #105
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Coming back to this thread many years later... The link in the original post is no longer correct. Instead I found the article at https://www.essexparts.com/storage/w...e%20pads_3.pdf.

Re-reading the article now, I'm surprised at the comments about poor cold performance for ceramic pads. That hasn't been my experience at all. Have ceramic compounds just gotten better in the past 11 years? For example, I run Power Stop Z23s on my Impreza, and Z26s on my CTS-V, and have no issues with cold performance at all. The grip seems very consistent and doesn't seem to ramp up with temperature, unlike semi-metallics, which get noticeably more grippy after you put a little heat in them.
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Old 05-18-2020, 08:59 AM   #106
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I get the impression that the author of that article doesn't hold typical OE levels of stopping performance in very high regard at all. Especially with respect to cars designed for the typical USA driver.

It's doubtful that "ceramic pads" ever were all the same in terms of cold bite or stopping power. Over the years, Hawk has consistently rated stopping power for their own Performance Ceramics below their HPS ferrocarbon formulation (which itself isn't anything to write home about), and Hawk's Perf Ceramics are almost certainly aimed a little higher up the performance ladder than mass-market ceramic OE replacements.

Power Stop runs carbon-ceramic formulations, and Carbotech (and presumably G-loc) run Kevlar-ceramic compounds, so you should expect differences among ceramic pads even today. I can't find any mu information for PS, but mu for the CT/G-loc pads ranges from 0.45-ish for the street pads up to 0.70-ish at the upper end of the track-rated pad compounds. Most OEM pads are likely below 0.40.

Side comment - I suspect that one of the reasons that 'brake assist' technology has been snuck into cars is because pads with low-ish mu need more pedal input faster than high-mu pads, and the average driver isn't doing what his strictly-average pads need him to be doing.


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Old 07-09-2020, 06:23 PM   #107
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Everything i've read on this thread is geared most towards racing performance. As someone who lives in Massachusetts, and doesn't race on the track, I was looking to invest in brake rotors (slotted) and some nice brake pads with material that works well in both cold temperatures and moderate summer temperatures in New England.

My car is a 2016 WRX, with 53k miles. I have never replaced the rotos or brake pads yet and I want to get something that is high quality and will last. So far I have identified 3 reliable brands that I could acquire a brake kit from, which are DBA, Brembo and Stoptech. I want to replace the pads and rotors on both axles.

Can someone recommend something or offer some advice with all of this accounted for? I don't think replacing the brake line would be necessary for street performance but I would definitely want to do a full brake fluid flush, and add a good quality brake fluid.
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Old 07-09-2020, 08:52 PM   #108
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I was a little weary of going with ceramics after reading the posted guide.

It's been a few months now and I'm pretty happy with the Akebono performance pads that I picked up. Their initial braking and pedal feel is on par with the OEM pads. I did a bunch of stops from 40ish than 60ish as a bed-in/feeling-in process and didn't notice any fade. Thanks to the 'rona though, I haven't been able to see how they handle an autox with 200TW tires.

Where they really stand out is in their dusting...or lack thereof. The STI logo is still visible after a few months and I think there's more road dirt than dust on my wheels.

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I was a little weary of going with ceramics after reading the posted guide.
I'd still be leery of $35 mass-market ceramics, even though they're probably made under contract by a name like Akebono.

The one experience I've had with that level of pad was somewhat less than pleasing. They stopped the car OK, but didn't always provide the same amount of initial bite - IOW, the pedal didn't always feel the same. Some will notice this more than others.


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I'd still be leery of $35 mass-market ceramics, even though they're probably made under contract by a name like Akebono.

The one experience I've had with that level of pad was somewhat less than pleasing. They stopped the car OK, but didn't always provide the same amount of initial bite - IOW, the pedal didn't always feel the same. Some will notice this more than others.


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This is the first time I've tried ceramics and I had no idea what to expect. Initial bite and pedal feel has been consistent while driving on the street. I'll update once we get a chance to autox again.
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Thumbs up Very helpful info

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