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Old 03-12-2011, 10:53 AM   #51
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the azenis 615?

such an outdated tire. dont get that trash.

even the "new" 615k is questionable
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Old 03-12-2011, 01:04 PM   #52
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I've been looking to new tires and I'm torn between the Dunlop Sport 01 and Continental Extreme Contact DW ! I don't wanna cheap out on tires, but my budget is around 500 - 600, so does anyone have any experience with either of these? I'm looking to get either 225/45/17s or 235s for my wheels that are 17 x 7.5 I mostly use my car as a daily with a lot of spirited driving.
The Dunlop SP Sport 01 is OEM on the new generation WRXs. There is lots of info on these tires out there due to this. At first I thought these tires were ok, but then after I traded to my winters and back, I ended up with tire pull and considerable tire vibration. I can't say with certainty it was the tires' fault. The tire shop labeled the tires per location on the car, and I rotated from those labels when I put the summers back on. That's when the pull and vibration started. It's not an alignment issue, I'm having no pull with my winters. I put a tread gauge to my dunlops, and they all have equal tread at 6/32s. I'm not going to use these tires anymore.

In my opionion there are better tires in that price range than the SP Sport 01s.
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Old 03-12-2011, 02:02 PM   #53
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Yeah, I haven't heard too many good things about the dunlops now that I look more into it, I think I'm going to go with the Continental Extremes DW.
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I would get 760's over DW's. I hear Tirerack guys don't like the DW, and I've seen reviews from people with both that the 760 is better.
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Old 03-12-2011, 05:45 PM   #55
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What I have: 05 WRX stage 11ty billion, bigger turbo, all bolt ons you can think of etc....Rota Subzeros 17" 5x100. Not my daily driver and will probably never see snow and as little rain as possible. However, I live in the midwest and you never know what the weather is going to be.
What I want: A good tire setup (keeping the rotas) for the street and for drag racing at the track. I will drive it back and forth to work occasionally and will maybe need something decent for trips into Chicago (about 100 miles) My budget will probably be >$500. Overall my main concern is performance at the drag strip.
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Old 03-12-2011, 07:35 PM   #56
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Looking for a weird size, 235/35/18s...... So far, the only two options that may seem decent are either:

Continental ExtremeContact DW
Falken Ziex ZE-912

Looking for a Dry/Wet tire (I have snows) to pair with a set of Rota Gravel 18x8s. I could go to a 235/40 but I'd like to go with a tire size that doesn't mess with the spedo.
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i can't decide on a new summer tire or size. I've narrowed the tires down to either the general exclaim UHP or the bf goodrich g-Force T/A KDW 2. This is for my '11 wrx. It is completely stock right now. Will likely get a Cobb stage 1 soon and maybe next year lower the suspension conservatively. It is a daily driver, and I'm here in the desert so wet isn't very important, neither is snow because I have winters. So I'm leaning towards the Exclaims because of better road noise.

Is there any other tires that are comprable but maybe a bit cheaper?

These will be going on some rota grid's 18x9.5. So the size i'm narrowing down is 255/35R18's or 255/40R18's. I'm thinking that if I leave it stock height the 40's would be better, but if I drop it, the 35's are better? I guess that question isn't really about the tires, oh well!
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Many tires in that price range and size (including the hankook v12s, sumitomos htrz3)
also look into the re760(probably be my pick)

the kdw isnt a tire for me.
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Old 03-13-2011, 02:32 PM   #59
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Looking for a weird size, 235/35/18s...... So far, the only two options that may seem decent are either:

Continental ExtremeContact DW
Falken Ziex ZE-912

Looking for a Dry/Wet tire (I have snows) to pair with a set of Rota Gravel 18x8s. I could go to a 235/40 but I'd like to go with a tire size that doesn't mess with the spedo.
From what I hear, the ZE-912's are pretty ****ty, couple of my friends are running them and don't really like them. Only upside to them is that they're cheap, but tires are one of the things you really shouldn't cheap out on as they can probably save your life.
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the azenis 615?

such an outdated tire. dont get that trash.

even the "new" 615k is questionable

Really?

I LOVED my original Azenis Sport RT-215 back in the day autocrossing and on the street. I assumed the RT-615K was a big upgrade over those


Now that winter is over and I need to put my blizzaks away, a summer tire is needed. I really don't want to spend too much (90-122max, for those Azeni 615K) Stock RS rims at 205/55/r16.

Mostly highway driving, might get back into autocrossing, but I want something way better than all seasons. The stickyness of my old azenis has me yearning
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Really?

I LOVED my original Azenis Sport RT-215 back in the day autocrossing and on the street. I assumed the RT-615K was a big upgrade over those


Now that winter is over and I need to put my blizzaks away, a summer tire is needed. I really don't want to spend too much (90-122max, for those Azeni 615K) Stock RS rims at 205/55/r16.

Mostly highway driving, might get back into autocrossing, but I want something way better than all seasons. The stickyness of my old azenis has me yearning
For mostly highway driving and no competition, 615s woudl be a bad choice. I had a couple of sets of 215s as well as a set of 615s. Similar feel.

They'll be loud (like cement truck loud when worn), tramliney, and wear out quickly. No reason not to get a summer tire with better manners.

An 050, RE760, HTRZ3, etc. is going to give you much better life, manners, etc. while still feeling much more sporty than all seasons.

Hell, Tirerack has SP 8000s for $75 in your size! $100 rebate for Kumho LEs too.
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For mostly highway driving and no competition, 615s woudl be a bad choice. I had a couple of sets of 215s as well as a set of 615s. Similar feel.

They'll be loud (like cement truck loud when worn), tramliney, and wear out quickly. No reason not to get a summer tire with better manners.

An 050, RE760, HTRZ3, etc. is going to give you much better life, manners, etc. while still feeling much more sporty than all seasons.

Hell, Tirerack has SP 8000s for $75 in your size! $100 rebate for Kumho LEs too.
I guess my bar is set pretty low. I thought the 615's (i don't know if I had the "k"s or not) were great dry summer tires. Rain was a different topic though.

Edit- I just saw that you were talking about highway driving.. I agree completely.

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What I have: 05 WRX stage 11ty billion, bigger turbo, all bolt ons you can think of etc....Rota Subzeros 17" 5x100. Not my daily driver and will probably never see snow and as little rain as possible. However, I live in the midwest and you never know what the weather is going to be.
What I want: A good tire setup (keeping the rotas) for the street and for drag racing at the track. I will drive it back and forth to work occasionally and will maybe need something decent for trips into Chicago (about 100 miles) My budget will probably be >$500. Overall my main concern is performance at the drag strip.
drag radials like the nitto nt-555?

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Looking for a weird size, 235/35/18s...... So far, the only two options that may seem decent are either:

Continental ExtremeContact DW
Falken Ziex ZE-912

Looking for a Dry/Wet tire (I have snows) to pair with a set of Rota Gravel 18x8s. I could go to a 235/40 but I'd like to go with a tire size that doesn't mess with the spedo.
comparing summer tires to all-seasons?

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i can't decide on a new summer tire or size. I've narrowed the tires down to either the general exclaim UHP or the bf goodrich g-Force T/A KDW 2. This is for my '11 wrx. It is completely stock right now. Will likely get a Cobb stage 1 soon and maybe next year lower the suspension conservatively. It is a daily driver, and I'm here in the desert so wet isn't very important, neither is snow because I have winters. So I'm leaning towards the Exclaims because of better road noise.

Is there any other tires that are comprable but maybe a bit cheaper?

These will be going on some rota grid's 18x9.5. So the size i'm narrowing down is 255/35R18's or 255/40R18's. I'm thinking that if I leave it stock height the 40's would be better, but if I drop it, the 35's are better? I guess that question isn't really about the tires, oh well!
what's your budget? i wouldn't buy either of those tires but that depends on budget.

255/40/18 is a very tall tire and not ideal for subarus.
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drag radials like the nitto nt-555?

comparing summer tires to all-seasons?

what's your budget? i wouldn't buy either of those tires but that depends on budget.

255/40/18 is a very tall tire and not ideal for subarus.
I was under the impression the conti DW was a summer tire and the DW"S" was an all-season, two different tread patterns.
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I was under the impression the conti DW was a summer tire and the DW"S" was an all-season, two different tread patterns.
you're right but i was referring to the falken ze-912 which is an all-season.
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what's your budget? i wouldn't buy either of those tires but that depends on budget.

255/40/18 is a very tall tire and not ideal for subarus.
Thanks I'll probably stick to the 35 sidewall. I don't really want to go over $175 per tire. Those seemed to be the highest rated in that price range...
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Well, if you're planning on touching snow, don't get ANY of the tires we mentioned. You original post said you have snows, 'a/s need not apply'.

If you can avoid the snow, the 452's are good in dry, GREAT in wet, like top notch good. I have them on my wife's car. I was just in the market myself, and 760's topped my list for my purposes, but due to a lack of money, I bought Federal SS595's. I only have 250 miles on them, so it's early to say, but they are feeling better and better every day.

Anyway, if wet is a big concern, few tires will beat the 452. www.discounttiredirect.com has great pricing, shipped, on 452's.
well, i don't want to use them in the snow, and when it is the winter season, the 3D's are on. usually it doesn't snow here until late december or even january, but, we've had a snow storm as early as october before. i'm well aware that during those instances, to drive with extreme caution. i'm kinda leaning toward the conti's, but still got more research to do. thanks again!
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For mostly highway driving and no competition, 615s woudl be a bad choice. I had a couple of sets of 215s as well as a set of 615s. Similar feel.

They'll be loud (like cement truck loud when worn), tramliney, and wear out quickly. No reason not to get a summer tire with better manners.

An 050, RE760, HTRZ3, etc. is going to give you much better life, manners, etc. while still feeling much more sporty than all seasons.

Hell, Tirerack has SP 8000s for $75 in your size! $100 rebate for Kumho LEs too.

Hmm. I really never had problems with my Azenis other than having to be careful in heavy rain, noise was never an issue, I got decent mileage out of them since they were on a 85hp Protege


So right now it looks like I decide between:


$260 Dunlop SP Sport 8000 (Ultra High Performance Summer)
UTQG: 320 A A


$280 Kumho Ecsta LE Sport (Max Performance Summer)
UTQG: 280 AA A


Any other input from people who have had these before?
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Hmm. I really never had problems with my Azenis other than having to be careful in heavy rain, noise was never an issue, I got decent mileage out of them since they were on a 85hp Protege


So right now it looks like I decide between:


$260 Dunlop SP Sport 8000 (Ultra High Performance Summer)
UTQG: 320 A A


$280 Kumho Ecsta LE Sport (Max Performance Summer)
UTQG: 280 AA A


Any other input from people who have had these before?

how you came up with those 2 tires....I'll never know
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Hmm. I really never had problems with my Azenis other than having to be careful in heavy rain, noise was never an issue, I got decent mileage out of them since they were on a 85hp Protege


So right now it looks like I decide between:


$260 Dunlop SP Sport 8000 (Ultra High Performance Summer)
UTQG: 320 A A


$280 Kumho Ecsta LE Sport (Max Performance Summer)
UTQG: 280 AA A


Any other input from people who have had these before?
Those LE's are the better performing tires for sure. Won't have the wear though. God damn that price is tempting. The 800s are aok, but an older, more budget summer tire that happens to be on closeout (being phased out).

Neither is going to feel as "racy" as the 215s. So, if that's what you really want, Star Specs, XS, etc. are going to feel sportier, but they may be out of your budget.

No noise on your 215s!?

Once past about 2/3 done, they were absolutely hurricane loud. Comical. But that's to be expected from a big-tread block, heat cycled out tire. As loud as any R comp I've run, well, them and worn 032Rs were similarly loud, with a similar feel actually.

My aftermarket stereo couldn't overcome them. I love those things.

I actually found a stock of leftover (very) RT215's on ebay a year or so ago. I bought a set for fun. They may be my favorite tire of all time. But for a DD, on the highway, I can't say I'd recommend them.
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how you came up with those 2 tires....I'll never know
The 2 soap suggested, and were a very good price for their performance.

If anyone else has any suggestions for around those prices, I'm all ears.

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Those LE's are the better performing tires for sure. Won't have the wear though. God damn that price is tempting. The 800s are aok, but an older, more budget summer tire that happens to be on closeout (being phased out).

Neither is going to feel as "racy" as the 215s. So, if that's what you really want, Star Specs, XS, etc. are going to feel sportier, but they may be out of your budget.

No noise on your 215s!?

Once past about 2/3 done, they were absolutely hurricane loud. Comical. But that's to be expected from a big-tread block, heat cycled out tire. As loud as any R comp I've run, well, them and worn 032Rs were similarly loud, with a similar feel actually.

My aftermarket stereo couldn't overcome them. I love those things.

I actually found a stock of leftover (very) RT215's on ebay a year or so ago. I bought a set for fun. They may be my favorite tire of all time. But for a DD, on the highway, I can't say I'd recommend them.
I do remember them being a little louder than normal, but I never was ever bothered. And I ran those till they were bald in some spots.

Wow, $63 shipping. I remember back when discounttiredirect shipped for free

Edit: they still do, I just haven't used them since I got my azenis back in the day

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just read this thread... good to know about the tread ratings. basically the two tires i really comparing right now are the conti dw's (not dws) and the Dstar specs. budget, eh... 8? not really that big of deal. these are for street and DDing. dry and wet please. recommendations to others welcome. i've also looked at re050's and the v12's.
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how you came up with those 2 tires....I'll never know


First one is a closeout.

The LEs are a new, very good all-around tire in the class. $100 rebate trying to stir up the pot on them I think.

As a DD summer, you can't argue with the price of the 8000s, outdated and all.

For a max performance summer, with the $100 rebate, you can't argue with the LEs.

Random, for sure. But do we really need another thread on Star Specs, PS2s, etc.?

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I remember back when discounttiredirect shipped for free
Still is...

Tirerack has BAD shipping prices on the 8000s.

www.tire-easy.com has the same price, with 1/2 the shipping cost on the 8000s!
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The 2 soap suggested, and were a very good price for their performance.

If anyone else has any suggestions for around those prices, I'm all ears.

I do remember them being a little louder than normal, but I never was ever bothered. And I ran those till they were bald in some spots.

Wow, $63 shipping. I remember back when discounttiredirect shipped for free
it's hard to beat the price on both of those tires but shipping i would go with the kuhmos and think of the $100 rebate as free shipping. if you choose to order from tirerack, call luke directly (877-522-8473 ext. 362) or click on this link to support nasioc. only other tire i'd suggest in that price range is the yokohama s.drive.

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just read this thread... good to know about the tread ratings. basically the two tires i really comparing right now are the conti dw's (not dws) and the Dstar specs. budget, eh... 8? not really that big of deal. these are for street and DDing. dry and wet please. recommendations to others welcome. i've also looked at re050's and the v12's.
8 as in $800? tire size?

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Still is...

Tirerack has BAD shipping prices on the 8000s.

www.tire-easy.com has the same price, with 1/2 the shipping cost on the 8000s!
yes it might cost a bit more but tirerack sponsors nasioc so help the forum by ordering through them.
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