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01-04-2013, 05:35 PM | #26 |
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You should never sign a contract without reading and understanding it, as well as getting any stipulations in writing.
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01-04-2013, 05:44 PM | #27 |
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01-04-2013, 09:38 PM | #28 |
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Um yes, that's what salesman do. They make it seems like your getting the best deal in the world and that your so special compared to every other customer that walks through the door....
Your not. There just trying to make a sale. Rule 1. Don't sign anything with reading and understanding first. |
01-22-2013, 03:33 AM | #29 |
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01-22-2013, 10:18 AM | #30 |
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Why dont you look at your paperwork and see?
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01-22-2013, 10:34 AM | #31 |
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01-22-2013, 10:36 AM | #32 |
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Everything EVERYTHING should be written on the sales contract:
Price of car doc fee (which used to be called ADMU - additional dealer mark up) sales tax registration fee title fee runner's fee anything else There should be NO estimate of anything. If they don't know what the fee is, they are lying or stupid. Doc fee is whatever the dealer wants to charge. In Mass, the fee is usually written in specifically on the sales contract and the sales guys cannot change it. But guess what? When you're making your deal, ask them what it is. They will tell you. Then use that in your negotiations. Some states (Rhode Island, for example) limit the doc fee by law. There, it cannot exceed $5. Some dealers include something for that fee making it less bogus. Maybe inspection sticker, maybe the runner's fee, maybe a full tank of gas, maybe coupons for the first service. This is not set in stone by anyone. You need to be aware and negotiate around it. |
01-22-2013, 10:37 AM | #33 |
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This reminds me of the human centipad episode from southpark, now you will be used in this
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01-22-2013, 10:40 AM | #34 | |
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On the contract it only showed the Price of car - $19000 doc fee - $189 sales tax - 8.725% of car MV fee - $294 It didn't show the registration fee title fee runner's fee Can the dealerships ignored this? Isn't it by law if it's over their estimated amount they HAVE to refund you back the unused MV funds? |
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01-22-2013, 10:46 AM | #35 | ||
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The MV Fee includes the Reg, Title and maybe Runners Fees. Get off your ass and go to the dealership if this bugs you so much. We've explained everything to you multiple ****ing times. |
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01-22-2013, 10:51 AM | #36 | ||
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The only way to know exactly what the fees were is to request the receipt. Call the dealership and ask to talk to the general manager. He will get it clarified for you. |
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01-22-2013, 10:55 AM | #37 |
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01-22-2013, 11:20 AM | #38 | |
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Go over your paperwork. If you don't have the paperwork, go to the dealer to get it. If they don't have it, then you probably just bought the car in your dreams and not real life. Dealerships make money off of being good salesmen (which includes bending the truth, not lying), high labor prices, and moving inventory. They don't make their money off of not keeping meticulous documents and lying and cheating you out of money. If you think they lied, it's probably because you didn't pay attention to the document you were signing. Last edited by Loyale93; 01-22-2013 at 11:30 AM. |
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01-22-2013, 11:29 AM | #39 |
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Who reads and understands contracts before signing? Thats nonsense.
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01-22-2013, 12:25 PM | #40 |
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Yes I know...I am an idiot for not reading it clearly....
Dealer just emailed me back and told me they only registered 1 year period on my car. So that doesn't make any sense at all now, if $47 is for a 2 year registration period 1-year would be much cheaper and how does $294 justified? He kept dodging my MV fee receipt question. According to this, it is considered a law for them to return my fees....but they are not doing so...but I can't seem to justify the $294 in MV fee. http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d05/vc11713_4.htm Last edited by subaru604; 01-22-2013 at 12:33 PM. |
01-22-2013, 12:58 PM | #41 | |
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Go down there. Tell (don't ask) them that you want to go over the final bill and see all charges, fees, etc. Look at what Vision wrote above. That's probably what it is. Please stop asking us to help you verify what the $294 was. Ask the people who are charging you. It's like asking us why the sandwich at your local shop is $9.50 when everyone else on this forum is buying sandwiches at $7.75. Talk with your sandwich maker and find out why it costs what it costs. Also, if you can't afford eating the $75 difference that you claim is yours, you probably shouldn't have bought the new car. Just a side though. |
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01-22-2013, 01:00 PM | #42 |
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I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
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01-22-2013, 01:01 PM | #43 | |
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It's not that I can't afford eating the $75, it's the principle. Why should I be out $75 extra when it's supposed to be my money? |
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01-22-2013, 01:05 PM | #44 |
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Then why don't you go ****ing ask the stealership who was so nice and honest and is screwing you over?
You've got a tough life ahead of you. |
01-22-2013, 01:08 PM | #45 |
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01-22-2013, 01:09 PM | #46 |
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Get off your ask. Walk into the dealership. Get answer immediately.
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01-22-2013, 01:11 PM | #47 |
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01-22-2013, 01:21 PM | #48 |
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70 miles goes fast once your foot is on the gas.
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01-22-2013, 01:25 PM | #49 | |
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01-22-2013, 02:58 PM | #50 |
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Pretty harsh crowd here.
I hope you get it all squared away. |
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