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Old 08-31-2002, 12:32 AM   #1
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Default 412.7 wheel HP on stock sti 2.0 litre - No NOS - new record at Pruven Performance !

Finally got the new set up with 650 injectors and bigger fuel pump and LINK onto the now famous Pruven Performance 4 wheel dyno tonight (www.pruvenperformance.com)

412.7 wheel hp on unleaded pump gas and NO NOS at 26.0 psi of boost

I did not have much time on the dyno and ran into a few delays trying to learn tuning the LINK so I was not able to finish the A/F curve and could not even start to play with the timing so I think the results are amazing considering my A/F ratios were far below 11.0 / 1 and the timing was very conservative

I think this set up has 440 HP in it at 26.0 psi of boost - - next week or so I'll come back and see how much further I can push it

I think this is an amazing result - because the entire engine has never been opened up and is bone stock Subaru STI (Note ** The AVCS is currently disabled and non-operational)

Interestingly - my Greddy ProfecB boost controller was MAXED out all the way on full boost - but it only goes up to 26.00 psi so that was the most I could go to on boost

Finally my fuel pressure stayed solid all the way to red line and there was no fall off on pressure with my new dash 6 fuel line and super big fuel pump

Also very good that finally the A/F curve was staying even and steady all the way to red line - no more rising up lean over 7,000

Big thanks to Forced Performance for the amazing GT30 Garret turbo ; Pruven Performance for the fantastic fmic, custom upipe and down pipe and for countless hours of guidance and wisdom and also to the LINK for releasing me from the stock MAF and the stock pressure sensor so I could finally get up over 22 psi
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Old 08-31-2002, 12:35 AM   #2
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For Goodness' sakes, PLEASE get that beast to a drag strip and get your 11 sec pass over with!!!
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Old 08-31-2002, 12:51 AM   #3
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NICE!!! LINK power!!!
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Old 08-31-2002, 04:21 AM   #4
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Nice seeing a Link controlling that power ... good work al
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Old 08-31-2002, 04:46 AM   #5
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Thats some crazy power..

Im anxiously awaiting a 1/4mile slip and video. =)
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Old 08-31-2002, 04:49 AM   #6
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holy s**t.......

what kind i say i need to so those times.....


ha ha ha
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Old 08-31-2002, 04:50 AM   #7
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oh did i mention that thats amazing.... congratulations
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Old 08-31-2002, 05:50 AM   #8
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i wont be surprised when he breaks his 6spd.. although i may shed a tear or 2, anyway good numbers man, turn on the nawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwws
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Old 08-31-2002, 11:31 AM   #9
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Nice seeing a Link controlling that power ... good work al
Yeah - the LINK is amazing !!!! I highly recomend the LINK to anyone - it does take a little more time than just a unichip or afc tune - - but it really is a amazing set up - I anticipate close to 450 hp with the LINK on my stock 2,0 block and 26 psi

I wonder how close those UTEC guys will come to these levels without NOS???

I quess we will all know more on the 14th !!
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Old 08-31-2002, 11:32 AM   #10
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i wont be surprised when he breaks his 6spd.. although i may shed a tear or 2, anyway good numbers man, turn on the nawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwws
Actually the 6spd is very very strong !
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Old 08-31-2002, 03:15 PM   #11
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i know al, hehe thats why i said it
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Old 08-31-2002, 05:17 PM   #12
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Good job Al! Just don't be missing shifts.
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Old 08-31-2002, 05:24 PM   #13
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would hooking up the AVCS help at all?
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Old 08-31-2002, 05:40 PM   #14
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Congrats Al on the good numbers.

Any plans on putting a cage in, as you still use the car as a daily driver, no?

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Old 08-31-2002, 06:40 PM   #15
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Hi Al congratulations once again, you deserve it !
Al since the AVCS is disabled right now could you please tell me if you have noticed any differences with engine idle or anything else for that matter. I believe you had the AVCS functioning prior to the Link install didn't you ? It would seem from your dyno results that the power output has not suffered any without the AVCS activated.
Take care, Tom..
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Old 08-31-2002, 07:49 PM   #16
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Hi Al congratulations once again, you deserve it !
Al since the AVCS is disabled right now could you please tell me if you have noticed any differences with engine idle or anything else for that matter. I believe you had the AVCS functioning prior to the Link install didn't you ? It would seem from your dyno results that the power output has not suffered any without the AVCS activated.
Take care, Tom..
the idel seems fine - although so far i have not mastered the LINK enough to get the idel perfected

The biggest difference when you have the AVCS disconnected is the spool up

The AVCS really helps the 3500 - 4500 area big time - - the car spools so hard at that point with the AVCS that you get uncontrollable boost spikes with the vf30 on there

As for the 5,500 and above area of the dyno sheet the AVCS is pretty much fully disablaed in that part of the curve so thats why my peak numbers are pretty much the same even with it unplugged

Obviously - I am really looking forward to the release of the LINK with AVCS for the STI - - the AVCS really is a big help to the spool up and diveability - - espacially when you are using big turbos

One more thing I miss is that STI V8 ecu - - the sti guys sure know how to cut a mean tune - - IF I was staying below 22 psi that would still be my set up - - but when you go over 22 psi you need to loose the stock MAF and pressure sensors and go with the GM 3 bar map

What can I say - its just a nice dependable 4 wheel drive daily driving 400 wheel hp car!
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Old 08-31-2002, 07:52 PM   #17
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Congrats Al on the good numbers.

Any plans on putting a cage in, as you still use the car as a daily driver, no?

-Matt
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No plans for a cage - I'm too big !

I'm looking forward to seeing all you guys at the Maple Grove racetrack on the 14th for the Shoot out !!!

I am working hard to get all the loose ends and details done and ready for that day so we can treat you all to the Subaru gruge death match of all time when Nathan and I line up to see who will be the fastest non NOS WRX in the USA! (If Imprezer don;t get there first)
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Old 08-31-2002, 07:58 PM   #18
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No plans for a cage - I'm too big !

I'm looking forward to seeing all you guys at the Maple Grove racetrack on the 14th for the Shoot out !!!

I am working hard to get all the loose ends and details done and ready for that day so we can treat you all to the Subaru gruge death match of all time when Nathan and I line up to see who will be the fastest non NOS WRX in the USA! (If Imprezer don;t get there first)
Why no N20?

A fast 1/4 mile is a fast 1/4 mile.

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Old 08-31-2002, 08:26 PM   #19
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Why no N20?

A fast 1/4 mile is a fast 1/4 mile.

Bill
Oh- why not - its just my trip i'm on right now - I like having some goal to shoot for -- - my past goal was 400 HP without NOS on a 2.0 - now its on to the 11 second pass with no NOS on pump gas

I am trying to make my car an all around daily driving rocket ship

If I wanted to risk blowing stuff up I might have hit the button with my current set up - but first I have to get everthing tuned to perfection then I can play with my little blue bottle

I am confident that i can break the record for the fatsest new age of all time by the end of the year with a nice mid 10 run on the bottle - - but in the meantime high 11 without NOS and on pump gas would be very nice for me
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I'm looking forward to seeing all you guys at the Maple Grove racetrack on the 14th for the Shoot out !!!
It's Beaver Springs Dragway in Central PA, AL. Some faster cars will be using MapleGrove that weekend( NHRA Keystone Nationals).

www.beaversprings.com

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(BTW, we met once down at Rallispec when you got your wheels and brakes last summer)
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Old 08-31-2002, 10:04 PM   #21
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It's Beaver Springs Dragway in Central PA, AL. Some faster cars will be using MapleGrove that weekend( NHRA Keystone Nationals).

www.beaversprings.com

-Matt

(BTW, we met once down at Rallispec when you got your wheels and brakes last summer)
Sorry - I had a fruedian slip up !!!!! I meant Beaver Springs - hopefully thats where I'll show up !!!!!
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Insane Al...thanks for doing so much ground work for the rest of us. Crazy power on that stock block Fo Sho.


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What octane rating do you guys have at the pump?

26psi on pump gas is insane.

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Old 09-01-2002, 01:32 AM   #24
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What octane rating do you guys have at the pump?

26psi on pump gas is insane.

-Alex
I will emphatically SECOND that !!
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Old 09-01-2002, 01:41 AM   #25
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What octane rating do you guys have at the pump?

26psi on pump gas is insane.

-Alex
My local Sunoco dealer carries everything from 89 to 100 octane unleaded fuel at the pump !

CT is a great place for fast cars ! I'd hate to be stuck with 91 octane !

I remember when i drove my M5 BMW all the way through Mexico with my trunk filled with octane booster - what a pain (they only had 89 octane)

of course - if you want to get serious you can get the c16 leaded 117 octane fuel out of the barrel - I never was able to get ANY detonation on C-16 - ever

the dyno shop really wanted me to run the C16 - but i wanted to tune it on what I run everyday from the pump

I slowly rasised the boost a little at a time - click by click - all the while watching the knock link - egt's and the LINK knock count and wideband a/f -- this car likes this high HP level more than my stock injector WRX did the 270 hp level !

Its amazing - when you supply huge amounts of fuel and keep the injector duty cycles down in reason - - the detonation stays away !

BTW - - I NEVER said that my relentless pursuit of Subaru performance was sane in any respect ! I wanted to crack 400 wheel HP and wanted to do it on the gas I run everyday !

PS - i noticed that the dyno loads my car differntly than on the road - - my fuel pressure was rock solid with the old pump and - 6 line on the dyno - - but then on the road later I saw that the fuel pressure would fall off on top

(now with the HKS pump the pressure is rock solid no matter how long the pull lasts - even up long uphils )

The pulls I make on the road last longer in time

I dont think I will run the 26 psi on the street in 5th gear
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