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Old 12-07-2020, 06:25 AM   #51
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Default Mitsubishi Lancer EVO and 3000GT are long gone… Or are they?


This is what Mitsubishi’s design boss wants
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The days of the Mitsubishi Lancer EVO and 3000GT are long gone… Or are they?

At the international reveal of its second plug-in hybrid SUV, the new 2021 Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross PHEV, the Japanese car-maker’s global design boss Seiji Watanabe told journalists that he believes the triple-diamond brand will return to its performance roots.

And it could be in the form of a “super-high-performance” electrified SUV.


This is what Mitsubishi’s design boss wants

“Though I feel in the future, Mitsubishi I think wants to push more performance design. This is a starting point. Just a starting point, right,” he said of the coupe-like Eclipse Cross.

“This is just a personal opinion – I cannot say the detail of the future. But for me, for Mitsubishi, the strongest (idea) is one of performance” he declared.

Although there was no mention of a reborn Mitsubishi 3000GT using the brand’s next-generation plug-in hybrid technology and Super All Wheel Control (S-AWC) – and potentially alliance partner Nissan’s sports car platform architecture – Watanabe said the company is ready to add spice to its SUV portfolio.


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He observed that a combination of Mitsubishi’s “very powerful” next-gen PHEV system with its S-AWC system could provide the basis for a “super-high-performance SUV” to rival the likes of the new turbo-petrol Subaru Forester and Volkswagen Tiguan R.

“I feel that after driving the PHEV system, including the next-generation PHEV also, I had a very strong impression that it’s so smooth, so fast, so quiet. Yet very, very powerful and very, very – how do you say? – controllable, manoeuvrable driving. We can provide that super-high-performance SUV and 4WD system in the future,” he said.

The Mitsubishi executive also stated: “I drive the couple of vehicles that have Mitsubishi S-AWC system, it is so nice, so stable.

“It will give the customer confidence driving.”


Will Ralliart blow our minds with a Nissan GT-R-based Mitsubishi 3000GT sports coupe?

Even with a couple of high-performance aces up its sleeve – namely PHEV and S-AWC – Mitsubishi will be beholden to the comprehensive strategy guiding alliance partners Renault and Nissan, which at this stage has not officially referred to specific sports models for Mitsubishi but could see the technology shared across the group.

While both Renault and Nissan have extensive and quasi-independent performance arms – NISMO, Alpine, RS – it’s entirely possible Mitsubishi will continue to soldier on as a bread-and-butter brand without a modicum of excitement to its name.

Or do Watanabe’s comments provide the first indication that Mitsubishi is planning a return to the performance stage with a red-hot electrified SUV?
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Old 12-07-2020, 07:07 AM   #52
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Discussion: About crossovers and sport utilities....
Person writing the article: MiTsUbIsHi 3000gT sEcOnD cOmInG!
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Old 12-07-2020, 10:35 AM   #53
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Call it the 4000 gt or something if they build that. It's really aweful every manufacturer is reimagining their iconic sports cars as electric crossovers/suvs. They already doubled down on ruining the eclipse.
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Old 12-07-2020, 01:16 PM   #54
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Call it the 4000 gt or something if they build that. It's really aweful every manufacturer is reimagining their iconic sports cars as electric crossovers/suvs. They already doubled down on ruining the eclipse.
They are working their way up the lineup. The ultimate goal is to ruin the Evolution name. Be patient.
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Old 12-07-2020, 02:18 PM   #55
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They are working their way up the lineup. The ultimate goal is to ruin the Evolution name. Be patient.
Mitsubishi 4000GT Evolution.

Turbo charged 4 banger with ev motors on all 4 corners and costing $65k while barely outperforming an STI.
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Old 05-28-2021, 06:42 AM   #56
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Born-again ‘4000GT’ sports coupe may take on Nissan 400Z and Toyota Supra – and it could look something like this






The Mitsubishi 3000GT was a Japanese performance coupe built between 1990 and 2000… and it could make a comeback in the 2020s.

What you see here is a rendering of the Mitsubishi ‘4000GT’ created by Matthew Parsons via design portal Behance, which proposes one design direction that could be taken for a potential remake of the Mitsubishi sports car.

The Mitsubishi 3000GT – or GTO, as it was also called – was originally powered by a 3.0-litre twin-turbo V6 in the 1990s, when it rumbled with the likes of the Toyota Supra, Mazda RX-7 and Nissan 300ZX of the era.

And its successor could also be powered by a 3.0-litre twin-turbo V6, supplied by Nissan.

Given the industrial alliance within which Mitsubishi, Nissan and Renault now operate, Mitsubishi could further leverage the recently-announced ‘leader-follower’ platform sharing strategy recently outlined by the three car-makers as part of their new business plan, under which the next Nissan Navara and Mitsubishi Triton utes will be twins under the skin.

The new Mitsubishi ‘4000GT’ render blends classic and modern styling
If Mitsubishi can form a solid business case for a born-again sports car – as Toyota did with its reincarnated Supra, thanks to the BMW Z4 – the upcoming Nissan 400Z would appear to be the ideal donor vehicle.

Expected to launch in 2021, the new Nissan 400Z will be powered by an Infiniti-sourced 3.0-litre turbo V6 outputting around 300kW/475Nm and would provide a new-generation Mitsubishi 3000GT with plenty of poke.

The rendering from Matthew Parsons presents a stocky, squat design that draws inspiration from the mid-1990s 3000GT, as evidenced by the front-end styling and roofline. There’s also a couple of futuristic design cues such as the vertical fin on the rear spoiler with integrated LED brake light.

As Nissan, Renault and Mitsubishi continue to push ahead with more shared models to save development costs, including everything from dual-cab utes to compact hatches and SUVs, the burning question is: will this plan extend to sports cars?

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Shouldn't be too difficult for Nissan. Take the Inifiniti Q60 chassis, the 400HP V6, AWD, massage the exterior and interior. POOOFF you get the 4000GT VR4. Offer it in stick and people will likely buy it, albeit in very small quantities. Then 5 years later Nissan, Toyota will announce end of the ICE Coupe era and how it is unsustainable.

If this comes back then we need Mazda to jump back in with an all aluminum chassis, Rotary motor likely won't happen but a Turbo 4 making 400HP would be epic.

PS. Nissan, bring back the EVO.
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Old 05-28-2021, 11:51 AM   #58
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I still have some Mitsu love from my DSM and EVO days but I don't plan on ever owning a Nissan and putting a Mitsubishi badge on it won't change that.
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Old 05-28-2021, 05:59 PM   #59
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I still have some Mitsu love from my DSM and EVO days but I don't plan on ever owning a Nissan and putting a Mitsubishi badge on it won't change that.
I saw an Eclipse GSX the other day, it was one of last year models. Had to do a double take. Don't really see those cars anymore. Those cars were a lot of fun, just like the EVO.
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I saw an Eclipse GSX the other day, it was one of last year models. Had to do a double take. Don't really see those cars anymore. Those cars were a lot of fun, just like the EVO.

I drove a '98 Eclipse turbo for a summer and it was hoot. I loved how the cockpit seemed to envelope the driver and it was plenty quick for that day and age.
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I drove a '98 Eclipse turbo for a summer and it was hoot. I loved how the cockpit seemed to envelope the driver and it was plenty quick for that day and age.
still waiting for someone to make a SMALL, light, AWD performance coupe. a modern Eclipse would be perfect, but it would probably end up being too big and heavy.

i don't see it happening, though.
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I don't think it needs a stick. Keep it the big heavy GT car it used to be. DCT with AWD. A GTR light.
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I still have some Mitsu love from my DSM and EVO days but I don't plan on ever owning a Nissan and putting a Mitsubishi badge on it won't change that.
You know? At least Nissan is trying. They are making their own car and engine and if the new Z comes with promised Hp/tq numbers at the weight they claim and the price they have said it will be the only thing in the market from Japan in the ball park of the 90s and early 2000s Japanese performance bargains. Toyota can’t make them anymore and have to pay other companies to do it for them, the STi is stuck in 2008, Mazdas are either underpowered (Miata) or not serious (Mazda 3 is FWD, open diff etc) ....I guess the Honda CTR is the only other somewhat similar to what would have been expected but it is a large car.

If they make it and kept the price reasonable it would be one of a couple on the market
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still waiting for someone to make a SMALL, light, AWD performance coupe. a modern Eclipse would be perfect, but it would probably end up being too big and heavy.

i don't see it happening, though.

You know you can buy a new Eclipse right now
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yeah, my mom has an Eclipse CROSS - nice little SUV, but not what i'm looking for.
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Mitsubishi Starion 4WD: unseen pictures of the lost Group B rally car



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Never seen before images of the Mitsubishi Starion 4WD show how the brand’s Group B challenger would have shaped up…

Fresh light has been cast on Mitsubishi’s stillborn attempt to join the likes of the Audi Quattro and Ford RS200 in rallying’s craziest era, after previously unseen official sketches of the company’s Starion 4WD were discovered in the depths of an archive.

These artist’s impressions, published here for the first time, were sent as part of internal correspondence at Mitsubishi’s UK importer in 1984. They show the company was serious about building 200 roadgoing examples of the Starion 4WD - the number required to rubber-stamp its participation in Group B rallying.

The Mitsubishi project remains one of world rallying’s ‘lost cars’, alongside Ford’s rear-wheel-drive Escort RS1700T (abandoned in favour of the RS200) and mid-engined versions of the Audi Sport Quattro that were tested behind the Iron Curtain in Czechoslovakia but ultimately dismantled after the project was discovered.

Conceived as the follow-up to the rear-drive Lancer 2000 Turbo, the Starion 4WD was developed by the Ralliart team in the UK, under the direction of former driver Andrew Cowan and with input from former Audi technician Alan Wilkinson. It would have had a 2.0-litre engine in production form - in effect, an updated version of the Lancer’s motor - and this would have been expanded to 2,140cc for the 20 ‘evolution’ competition specials that would have been allowed under Group B rules.

The engine is estimated to have had around 350bhp, and extensive use of carbonfibre and kevlar for the bodywork is said to have kept the car’s kerbweight at just over 1,000kg. These numbers would have been a solid base for the Starion 4WD to be competitive, at least until even more brutal versions of the Quattro and Peugeot’s 205 Turbo 16 arrived in the second half of 1985.

The most obvious difference between the Starion 4WD and its conventional rear-drive production stablemates is at the front, where the regular car’s pop-up headlights have been replaced by a conventional quad-lamp arrangement. This, in turn, allowed Cowan and his engineers to drastically shorten the Starion’s front overhang, helping to improve its weight distribution, while also squeezing in a larger radiator.

A letter accompanying the images suggests that Mitsubishi was planning to put numbered plaques on all of the Starion 4WDs, and says that the car was being lined up to make its debut at the 1984 British motor show. This would tally with the development rally car’s appearance on that summer’s Mille Pistes Rally, a notoriously rough event held on the huge Canjuers military base in southern France, where it finished sixth in the hands of Mitsubishi test driver Lasse Lampi.

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The car also ran in prototype form as part of a national event rolled into the 1984 RAC Rally - but the project dragged badly and while homologation was expected to be sealed sometime in 1986, the cancellation of the Group B class in spring of that year forced the Starion 4WD to be abandoned.

The work on the proposed model wasn’t a complete waste, however; Mitsubishi and particularly Ralliart took knowledge on engines and transmissions gleaned from the project and fed it into a new challenger for the more production-based Group A regulations: the Galant VR-4. That car scored the Japanese brand’s first WRC victories, persuading it to commit further with the Lancer Evo that went on to win four back-to-back World Rally Championships for Tommi Makinen, as well as a makes title for the Japanese brand itself in 1998.




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