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10-03-2009, 02:57 AM | #1 | |
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Audi S4: Compared to BMW 335i. S4 wins!
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I read it. Does anyone else agree with comparing the two? (as stated in CD article)
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The prices are similar but shouldn't the s4 be compared against the m3?
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10-03-2009, 06:08 AM | #4 |
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^^^^^^^ That'll be a job for the RS4.
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The article should be online soon. It did not really make sense to me, how they came to their conclusion. O.K., I found my mag... They said the M3 is 56,975, 335 is 41,125 so it's 300 twin turbo inline six is the S4's new lower priced doppelganger. But watch the small print because the BMW does not match the S4 in standard equipment ( then they go own to explain all the extra's and how they compare).. Last edited by AVANTI R5; 10-03-2009 at 07:32 AM. |
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the 135i just lost to the TTS as well in Road and Track. But the 135 and 335 both have more potential than the Audi's they compete against. The 135 and 335 are set up very conservatively from the factory. The aftermarket potential with those cars is amazing. Better motor with tons of potential power, RWD and better front/rear distribution. If i didn't have two young kids, the 135 would be my next car.
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Pricing aside they're not the same type of car, really. I think the only reason the prices are similar is because they've watered down the S4 for the upcoming MY and the M3 has gotten more expensive.
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Well, the new S4 has about all the bells & whistles that one should need, even with the base model. Seems the way to go is just opt for the manual with the sports diff and call it a day. This keeps the price comparable with the 335 series.
And while the 335 is very nice, you don't even get an LSD. No... then it might just impinge on M3 performance too much. |
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Article says S4 is 4 thousand pounds and 58% nose heavy?
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They should have compared it to the 335xi instead, but otherwise it's a good comparo, that's audi's target car.
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Looks wise, the Audi has lost it's edge. Just seem dull.
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I can see some validity in the comparison. The Audi is a better equipped car. Too bad about the aesthetics--such as the tacky, pretentious headlight LEDs that completely lack the elegance of BMW's more subdued halos. Including the A5/S5 and A4/S4, Audi makes some of the most mundane looking cars on the road today, though I am sure that in time that poster who claims to understand how the golden ratio applies to aesthetics (apparently based on something he read in an Audi brochure) will post his evidence proving that Audis are gorgeous. All that aside, the article was surprisingly fair. Audi is a better buy for those for whom looks have absolutely no bearing on their purchase decisions.
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bimmer looks better
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Spy pictures of the upcoming 2011 Audi S4:
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The A4 series of cars needs to be seen to appreciated. Pictures do not capture the perspective of the cars lines.Case and point. I was thinking the A4 was looking pretty dull, then a guy in my building bought one and its simply stunning.
Here's a clue. Cars do not need huge fender flares to look aggressive and have a wonderful flow to them. Audi has figured this out quite well. |
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agreed.
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I prefer the styling of the B6 & B& A4's to the current generation, and the looks of the current 3-series over the current too-big-for-its-britches A4. Think comparing the 335xi with AWD would have been a better direct matchup. No doubt that Audi kills BMW on the interior tho!
I'll let y'all know in a couple weeks how the S4 handles on the track |
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I happened to be two cars behind a last-gen S4, and right beside a brand new A4, on the way to work today. The new one still looks a bit odd, but new cars are always like that, at least for me. Audi has yet to disappoint me, with their aesthetics - I find them beautiful.
I do find the 335 comparison more fair, even though ideally, it should be S4 vs. M3. It's just that the S4 has never had the gusto to be a true M3 performance competitor; that distinction has indeed been for the RS4. |
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IT should NOT be s4 vs. m3.. AWD sedan with approximately 300 hp in the BMW line-up, comparable size, is the 335xi..
Then what do you compare the RS4 to? The BMW MM3? Edit: redundant post is redundant |
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S4 is definitely not a competitor for the M3, don't let the "S" badge or lack of an "M" badge on the 335i fool you, these two cars are quite evenly matched
New S4 is really nice, looks pretty good in the flesh. |
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