Want to build a 400WHP honda motor. What Block and Head Combintation to use.

[STEALTH-WRX]

I am looking to make 400 WHP with this motor. I know it can be had by many different ways. I have been out of the Honda Game for 4 years now and my technology as good as my ZC Motor was in my CRX. I only want to make this power with a turbo and not nitrous or supercharger. I am going to do all of the fabrication work myself and build the motor in my garage. The only thing I wont do is the machining.

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[MrBlue]

I'd build it using a B20 block with the B18C1 head. Good combo..

[stickman]

this is what u will need:

built block w/ re inforced sleeves
forged pistons minimum 9:1 CR
forged rods
stock crank

Precision SC61/63
full race manifold
tial WG
3" DP and exhaust
700cc inj
hondata
cometic HG
APR head bolts
FMIC

this is using a b18c1

i know the person who sells the precision turbos.

person here in texas who is like at 350hp at 12psi w/ similiar setup i think using a b18b

i know im forgetting some stuff too

look at www.honda-tech.com in the forced induction forum.
lots of good info there.

good luck. i wish i could do this to my GSR.

[andywrx]

Why not a K-series? Yes, it's expensive. However, guys are
getting 300+ hp (One guy dyno'd at 260hp) with only 7/8psi.
Plus, you can use a 2.4L block as a start and go from there.
They are squeezing these engines into older bodies, but most
seem to be 98+. If you want to put this into an older hatch or
CRX, B-series is the way to go.

[JewPac42]

What about the WRX with the T04r? Still in the works?

[STEALTH-WRX]

My wrx will be done this weekend. I want another car.

[JewPac42]

Sweet.

[MrBlue]

what are you going to put the engine in anyways? civic, CRX, integra?

[SDscooby]

Not trying to knock you or anything dude. But why a Honda? Everyone is building honda's. If your building a drag car why not start out with something with real potential. RWD V8...
I dunno, just not a FWD fan... but build what you want.

[wako29]

Originally posted by SDscooby
Not trying to knock you or anything dude. But why a Honda? Everyone is building honda's. If your building a drag car why not start out with something with real potential. RWD V8...
I dunno, just not a FWD fan... but build what you want.

yeah, I agree with him. Maybe just get a 180 and drive that around until you can get an SR20DETT or any other motor out of the Silvia. They kitts are easy and relatively cheap to buy I heard, plus it would be a very nice car to drive around in. Gobs of power, as well (400whp should be unquestionable).

now, that is for if you hate american cars/motors (like some people here ). But, if you don't, might I suggest just getting a newspaper and looking in the classifieds? They usually have nice cars. Get something older and gut the drivetrain and just build something very streetable, but would open a can of whoop-ass on command( )

[STEALTH-WRX]

I love all cars but I have a sweet spot for Hondas. I absolutely love them. This will be going into a 92-95 Hatchback (eg). This car is not going to be a drag car, its going to be a street car with zero traction. I already have a "drag car" and now i want a quick street car.

[wako29]

um, unless you WANT zero traction, might I suggest LSD as a 1st priority for pushing that much power? Just a (heavily encouraged) suggestion.

Also, if you have always liked Hondas, then more power to you for building one. Hondas really are nice cars, just get a bad wrap from ricers and just crappy teens and all.

No matter what happens, good luck and keep OT informed

[STEALTH-WRX]

Originally posted by stickman
this is what u will need:

built block w/ re inforced sleeves
forged pistons minimum 9:1 CR
forged rods
stock crank

Precision SC61/63
full race manifold
tial WG
3" DP and exhaust
700cc inj
hondata
cometic HG
APR head bolts
FMIC

I dont think i need to go with a precision turbo. I was thinking more of a t3/t4 stage 5 with a .50 trim.

what exactly is a full race manifold? I am building it myself.

As far as the injectors go, i dont think i need 700 cc injectors. I have 800's on my subaru now and they are good to 550-600 wheel hp. I think 600's will be enough.

I will be running a motec or autronic ecu on it.

[IggDawg]

I want a ZC for my CRX

-IggDawg

[STEALTH-WRX]

Here is my CRX when i put my ZC in it. If your interested in the swap let me know. I can get everything for it.

[DubuRX]

LS/Vtec

[I am mattjk]

Originally posted by STEALTH-WRX
I am looking to make 400 WHP with this motor. I know it can be had by many different ways. I have been out of the Honda Game for 4 years now and my technology as good as my ZC Motor was in my CRX. I only want to make this power with a turbo and not nitrous or supercharger. I am going to do all of the fabrication work myself and build the motor in my garage. The only thing I wont do is the machining.

Nick, after you go pick up your Ceramic Coated parts, go see this guy. http://www.ericksracing.com/ he is just in the next city.

He, along with Hondata make some incredible honda engines.

World's Quickest all motor FWD (9.99 @ 131 mph)

Specifications:

1995 Civic coupe body.
1997 Integra GSR B18C1 engine.
Engine:

Bore: 85 mm
Stroke: 95 mm
300+ bhp
10,800 rpm redline
Engine management: Hondata
Ignition system: stock
Head: Erick's Racing Engines full competition
Intake manifold: modified GSR
Injectors: RC 440 cc
Throttle body: Erick's Racing 76 mm
Header: Erick's Racing custom 4-1 side exit.
Transmission:

Erick's Racing close ratio 5 speed
4.7:1 final drive

[JewPac42]

Originally posted by DubuRX
LS/Vtec

I agree with thr ls/vtec. There was a guy at the track last night with an EG hatch with a B18C block and B16 head and he was running 13.8 with I/H/E, stripped interior and R-Compound tires. Very impressive car with potential for huge power numbers.

[STEALTH-WRX]

Originally posted by JewPac42


I agree with thr ls/vtec. There was a guy at the track last night with an EG hatch with a B18C block and B16 head and he was running 13.8 with I/H/E, stripped interior and R-Compound tires. Very impressive car with potential for huge power numbers.

I kind of like the idea of the b20/vtec or straight b20. torque is fun and i can get a b20 long block right now for $500.

[JewPac42]

Originally posted by STEALTH-WRX


I kind of like the idea of the b20/vtec or straight b20. torque is fun and i can get a b20 long block right now for $500.

If you can go cheap then do it, but the ls/vetc or just B18C platform have a ton of power. One of my friends at home is running an EG hatch with a B18C1 with I/H/E and 50 shot running 13.0-13.2, he put our other friends turbo kit from his integra in the hatch and the accleration is rediculous. Good platform, tons of power either N/A or forced induction.

[dachoe]

wako29: I don't think Nissan ever made a twin turbo version of the SR20DE, although I've seen pictures of a couple twin turbo'd SR20's. Pretty crazy, but I'd rather go single turbo for the sake of simplicity.

LS/VTEC isn't very reliable if one doesn't do it correctly. It depends mostly on the engine builder. Dan ("god" on these and other forums) has tried it and they've blown up on him, IIRC.

[STEALTH-WRX]

I have decided on the straight b20. I have friends with all of these configurations and all of them work if done properly. I just like have the torque of the b20 with the simplicity of bolting it right in. I am going to sleeve it, and throw some strong internals in it.

[Strepto]

shoe-horn a 427 in there

I really have no idea, I'm just whoring this morning. Guess it's a bump for you too

[eric m.]

i think the CR-V motor (B20) is a good choice if you can get it cheap. reading this makes me want to get a honda too. i think the quality and reliability is much better than any nissan, trendy as they may be right now.

[Sephro]

I have to go with the H23A1
There is a guy on Honda-Tech that has on pushing over 500whp with over 400ft/lbs torque.

Check out his site
http://www.preluderacing.com/

If you want to mix and match throw a H22 head on for the VTEC Yo!