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Old 09-28-2015, 08:47 PM   #126
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Details are minimum on these occurrences...but the latest one mentioned earlier on this page suggests a high load on the engine while in 6th gear. Which yeah go out w/ a stock car and go WOT in the overdrive gear @ 2k rpm and I'll bet money it blows after a few of those.
Sorry man but I use too overload my other car and never had a problem .boosted with 386 whp for over 4 years and I've never had one single problem with my engine (and it's a civic si by the way)yes a freaking civic and I should have stayed with it

I was talking to a mechanic at speed shop and he told me that these engines are poorly built.he has seen 2 already Blow!it sucks because is a such good looking car but with a poorly designed engine
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Old 09-28-2015, 09:25 PM   #127
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Wah Wah Wah

Trade it for a VW then. The ea888 is strong.
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Old 09-28-2015, 10:06 PM   #128
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Sorry man but I use too overload my other car and never had a problem .boosted with 346 whp for over 4 years and I've never had one single problem with my engine (and it's a civic si by the way)yes a freaking civic and I should have stayed with it

I was talking to a mechanic at speed shop and he told me that these engines are poorly built.he has seen 2 already Blow!it sucks because is a such good looking car but with a poorly designed engine
i read it on the Internet! It must be true. I had a civic before this car and other than great gas mileage...it was a piece of crap. No small problems. All major money issues. I used to think Honda made a good car and they did until about 2000
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Old 09-28-2015, 10:13 PM   #129
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Trade it for a VW then. The ea888 is strong.
true, just the rest of the parts that are the problem
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Old 09-28-2015, 10:19 PM   #130
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i read it on the Internet! It must be true. I had a civic before this car and other than great gas mileage...it was a piece of crap. No small problems. All major money issues. I used to think Honda made a good car and they did until about 2000
Sorry brother but the k series engine is better then the b series engine it's actually more reliable then this piece of crap fa engine

Yes stock k series are slow azz uck but you boost them and they will outlast the Fa engines! hey I've seen them pushing 450whp boosted for years with no blowing up but then again there transmissions are crap..they break so easy..like glass jeje I did break my trans once

I'm about too sell this car and get me an evo x way better built engine
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Old 09-28-2015, 10:35 PM   #131
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^ see ya!! When you find the thread on the evo forums about blown motors, what will you then?
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Old 09-28-2015, 10:49 PM   #132
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Sorry brother but the k series engine is better then the b series engine it's actually more reliable then this piece of crap fa engine



Yes stock k series are slow azz uck but you boost them and they will outlast the Fa engines! hey I've seen them pushing 450whp boosted for years with no blowing up but then again there transmissions are crap..they break so easy..like glass jeje I did break my trans once



I'm about too sell this car and get me an evo x way better built engine

So what you're saying is that because these FA's aren't built to withstand torturously high loads at low rpms, a car that has a more robust engine that causes your transmission to blow is better?

Good luck with your search on finding your bulletproof engine that also doesn't expose another weak link when you ramp up its power output.
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Old 09-28-2015, 11:53 PM   #133
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^ see ya!! When you find the thread on the evo forums about blown motors, what will you then?
Yes they blow too but not as much as these fa engines. Evo x engines are known to be more reliable and better built

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Old 09-28-2015, 11:57 PM   #134
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So what you're saying is that because these FA's aren't built to withstand torturously high loads at low rpms, a car that has a more robust engine that causes your transmission to blow is better?

Good luck with your search on finding your bulletproof engine that also doesn't expose another weak link when you ramp up its power output.
Yes the trans was the week link but the trans still lasted over 20,000 miles of hard driving .then again some of these fa engines are not even going past 20000 miles and there engines are already blowing .it's sad too have a brand new car with such low miles and already giving problems

It's sad because I really like the looks of the subie and the new wrx is pretty comfy and I like it's handling but the heart of the car(engine) it's what gets me frustrated

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Old 09-29-2015, 02:46 AM   #135
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Circumstances: exited freeway made a turn saw a light at an intersection turning yellow sped up a bit to make it, felt like i hit fuel cut (ie just about any toyota turbo engine when overboosting) lots of lights on the dash car died, pulled over. looked at the engine, i saw no rods sticking out or any leaking fluids, started her right up and got a definite rod knock plus check engine light. got the car towed back home will check in with dealership in the morning. car was properly broken in per subaru manual recommendation. the only thing i can think of was that i purchased the car brand new from subaru but it had 80 miles on it, so some subaru techs and test drivers prolly drove the **** out of it.

Actual engine failure: not really sure this just happened on the way home from picking up my brother in law from the airport
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Old 09-29-2015, 06:35 AM   #136
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^ more than likely your car was DOA
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Old 09-29-2015, 08:36 AM   #137
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^ more than likely your car was DOA
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Old 09-29-2015, 09:42 AM   #138
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Sorry brother but the k series engine is better then the b series engine it's actually more reliable then this piece of crap fa engine

Yes stock k series are slow azz uck but you boost them and they will outlast the Fa engines! hey I've seen them pushing 450whp boosted for years with no blowing up but then again there transmissions are crap..they break so easy..like glass jeje I did break my trans once

I'm about too sell this car and get me an evo x way better built engine
K engines drink oil like I drink beer and can still break.

The FA20 by nature is a way better engine. The FA20DIT Subaru bastardized however... yeah... looks like I won't be keeping my car long.

My other car has a K24 engine. Other than burning 1 quart of oil every 1000 miles, it's been pretty damn solid.
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Old 09-29-2015, 09:46 AM   #139
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My coolant was also low from the factory, I bought a gallon jug and put a bit in. You have to check it when it's warm but even when it was warm it was at the MIN mark in the overflow tank.
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Old 09-29-2015, 10:08 AM   #140
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My coolant was also low from the factory, I bought a gallon jug and put a bit in. You have to check it when it's warm but even when it was warm it was at the MIN mark in the overflow tank.
Mine was too, took it back and apparently they ship with that much in and the dealership didn't fill it properly
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Old 09-29-2015, 10:29 AM   #141
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Sorry brother but the k series engine is better then the b series engine it's actually more reliable then this piece of crap fa engine

Yes stock k series are slow azz uck but you boost them and they will outlast the Fa engines! hey I've seen them pushing 450whp boosted for years with no blowing up but then again there transmissions are crap..they break so easy..like glass jeje I did break my trans once

I'm about too sell this car and get me an evo x way better built engine
You will be chasing unicorns if your intention is to mod the Evo to make 400-500hp+. Stuff breaks on those cars all the time too when they are modded including engines and transmissions.

Pay to play.

Think about this too. Subaru probably sells more WRX/STI's in a month than Mitsubishi sells Evo X's in a year. There are going to be lots more reports of stock cars having issues and modded cars.

Just buy a car that makes the power you want stock and has a warranty so you stop chasing unicorns. Mustang GT. Hellcat. GTR. Corvette.
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Old 09-29-2015, 10:32 AM   #142
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Circumstances: exited freeway made a turn saw a light at an intersection turning yellow sped up a bit to make it, felt like i hit fuel cut (ie just about any toyota turbo engine when overboosting) lots of lights on the dash car died, pulled over. looked at the engine, i saw no rods sticking out or any leaking fluids, started her right up and got a definite rod knock plus check engine light. got the car towed back home will check in with dealership in the morning. car was properly broken in per subaru manual recommendation. the only thing i can think of was that i purchased the car brand new from subaru but it had 80 miles on it, so some subaru techs and test drivers prolly drove the **** out of it.

Actual engine failure: not really sure this just happened on the way home from picking up my brother in law from the airport
80 miles sounds suspicious. Unless the car was driven from another dealer I would be skeptical. These cars usually don't sit long enough on dealer lots to get 80 miles of test drives, that would be a ton of test drives.

At any rate that sucks. You will have no problem getting them to cover the work via the warranty as you have not even seen your first oil change yet and were not modded. I would just question that 80 miles. Was this car ever worked on previously?
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Mine had 70 on it when I received the keys. Never asked them about it but knew it had been on the lot for at least a week
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Wow, another one bites the dust.

I think the timing chain cover oil gallies are a terrible design on this engine. They are so close to the sealing surface that fuji bond can accidentally clog or partially clog the gallies when assembling and not even know it. This eventually leads to oil starvation and rod knock. At least that's my theory.

Also, starting to notice that a lot of these stock blown motors are running on 91 octane, so maybe that has something to do with it.
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Old 09-29-2015, 12:14 PM   #145
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Before I bought mine I specifically asked it not be used for test drives because people are f-ing idiots and think you can run 6k rpm's on a bran new motor. The dealer promised me they DO NOT allow test drives on these cars and I had to go to another dealer to test drive one.
When I went to that dealer they let me, and I was shifting below 4k since I have some respect for a new motor and the fact that it was not my car, and the salesman told me not to shift until 6500 (obviously trying to sell it). At one point we were sitting at a stop sign and I asked a question about the dash gear indicator, (I had it in neutral and my foot was OFF the clutch), and he just grabbed the stick and pushed it in gear and ground the hell out of it because the damn clutch was out and he didn't even tell me he was going to push it in gear.
After the test drive he asked me if I wanted that one and I said, "NOPE" and I went back to the dealer that doesn't beat the crap out of their STI's while they are bran new.
Mine had 9 miles on it when I picked it up, which seemed reasonable. 80 sounds like it was the test drive mule for the early 20's crowd who subscribe to the "hard break in" theory.
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Old 09-29-2015, 12:29 PM   #146
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You will be chasing unicorns if your intention is to mod the Evo to make 400-500hp+. Stuff breaks on those cars all the time too when they are modded including engines and transmissions.

Pay to play.

Think about this too. Subaru probably sells more WRX/STI's in a month than Mitsubishi sells Evo X's in a year. There are going to be lots more reports of stock cars having issues and modded cars.

Just buy a car that makes the power you want stock and has a warranty so you stop chasing unicorns. Mustang GT. Hellcat. GTR. Corvette.
There's not point as some people are just set in their ways and what they want to believe.

Overall WRX/STi sales since Feb 2014 to August 2015 -

2015 2014


Febuary 2,359 1,801 http://media.subaru.com/pressrelease...february-sales

March 2,471 2,181 http://media.subaru.com/pressrelease...rd-march-sales

April 2,713 2,698 http://media.subaru.com/pressrelease...rd-april-sales

May 2,895 2,957 http://media.subaru.com/pressrelease...cord-may-sales

June 2,166 2,065 http://media.subaru.com/pressrelease...ord-june-sales

July 3,716 2,005 http://media.subaru.com/pressrelease...nth-ever-sales

August 3,367 1,474 http://media.subaru.com/pressrelease...-monthly-sales

There will take about 100+ pages of failures before someone should be worried about the FA20DIT reliability...

The only information this thread provides is - One, we will never know the true facts of anything reported because people twist, dilute, lie sometimes. It also provides that yes, engines can fail from an assembly line. I don't think there is a single manufactured car who doesn't have some failures on new engines. The other thing it provides is, when you mod a car, a lot of things come in to play. Research, using parts with other parts,... not upgrading certain parts and cutting corners can cause failure and your tuners will play a role in the life of your engine.

For those who are now afraid of doing anything because there are literally like 7 posted failures here, you need to stop drinking the koolaid and just do what you want to do, just make sure you take the time to research what you're doing first... Your engine will be fine as long as you do it right.

If you're going to MOD a brand new car... drive the thing for a little while before doing it. If you are going to have manufacturing issues, you will most likely run into them sooner than later. Mod you car after you have put a good 10-20k miles on it and have beat the snot out of it. If it goes, you're covered under warranty, get your new engine and go for it again...

There's just no reason to not enjoy your car over paranoia and fear of something that could and most likely never happen to you. If there was truly an issue with these engines and it was at a high rate, there would be a lawsuit happening.

To even be at a 1% failure rate, and assuming of all those sales, 20,000 of them were WRX, you would need 200 posts in here of blown engines... good mod your **** and enjoy it. Save money, build your engine later if it really concerns you.
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Just turned into dealer this morning I'm good to go as far as warranty, its rod knock for sure. This car had been sitting on the lot for a bit I was tracking it for a couple months it never sold. Then they dropped the price drastically and that's when I stepped in. I got a hell of a deal out the door so I'm not complaining plus I got this awesome cvt Impreza loaner car with all these fancy gadgets to play with until my car is fixed. I will keep you guys updated on the progress
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There's not point as some people are just set in their ways and what they want to believe.

The only information this thread provides is - One, we will never know the true facts of anything reported because people twist, dilute, lie sometimes. It also provides that yes, engines can fail from an assembly line. I don't think there is a single manufactured car who doesn't have some failures on new engines. The other thing it provides is, when you mod a car, a lot of things come in to play. Research, using parts with other parts,... not upgrading certain parts and cutting corners can cause failure and your tuners will play a role in the life of your engine.
Right on. WRX's and STI's have issues that are Operator Issues. These cars are predominately purchased by young males, often ill educated or not remotely educated on how engines/transmissions actually work. Most people with motor failures are 101% responsible for the issue, and they dream up excuse after excuse to try and make a case that Subaru owes them a free engine.
Half the time these clowns come on a site like this to ask for advice on how to conceal the mods they've done that fried their motor so they can more effectively defraud their dealer with their lie about how they never abused or neglected the vehicle.

One other thing, Alpertbrown I am not saying you busted up your motor, your case sounds legitimate for a change of pace, and it sounds like the dealer let too many clowns drive your car. Your case is not like most.
Most are, I modded stage one, then two, then three, disabled my wastegate and bov to see what would happen and then took my buddies advice and shifted at 8500 rpm's. The motor blew and my ahole dealer says it's my fault, but I hid the evidence so he owes me a new motor. Should I get a lawyer?
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Wow, another one bites the dust.

I think the timing chain cover oil gallies are a terrible design on this engine. They are so close to the sealing surface that fuji bond can accidentally clog or partially clog the gallies when assembling and not even know it. This eventually leads to oil starvation and rod knock. At least that's my theory.

Also, starting to notice that a lot of these stock blown motors are running on 91 octane, so maybe that has something to do with it.
California 91 octane.
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Right on. WRX's and STI's have issues that are Operator Issues. These cars are predominately purchased by young males, often ill educated or not remotely educated on how engines/transmissions actually work. Most people with motor failures are 101% responsible for the issue, and they dream up excuse after excuse to try and make a case that Subaru owes them a free engine.
Half the time these clowns come on a site like this to ask for advice on how to conceal the mods they've done that fried their motor so they can more effectively defraud their dealer with their lie about how they never abused or neglected the vehicle.

One other thing, Alpertbrown I am not saying you busted up your motor, your case sounds legitimate for a change of pace, and it sounds like the dealer let too many clowns drive your car. Your case is not like most.
Most are, I modded stage one, then two, then three, disabled my wastegate and bov to see what would happen and then took my buddies advice and shifted at 8500 rpm's. The motor blew and my ahole dealer says it's my fault, but I hid the evidence so he owes me a new motor. Should I get a lawyer?
Cars and other mechanical/electrical products are generally very unreliable when new. People's STOCK engines popping up to 10k miles to me, are manufacturing defects.

People however putting the wrong oil, gas, etc, flooring it at high loads, flooring it when the engine hasn't warmed up and neglecting to check the oil when it's low however is 100% operator issue. I still don't think these engines should fail so early, even with improper use.
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