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Old 10-21-2013, 05:40 PM   #7726
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Hell yah! That's definitely wringing out the VF48 using E85!!
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Old 10-21-2013, 06:24 PM   #7727
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Old 10-21-2013, 06:35 PM   #7728
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any of you E85 guys running a Walbro 400, but still using the fuel pump controller w/the 12v relay mod?

only asking because im wondering if the 400 with the FPC will be acceptable with the stock fuel pressure regulator....
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Old 10-21-2013, 07:10 PM   #7729
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Yes, I have been but with the 12 gauge rewire, 40 amp relay and an Aeromotive 1000 FPR. I've found the limit of this setup thru the stock FPC with my 58lb turbo and ID1300's/50 psi base at just under 600whp.

What turbo are you planning to use with this and what injectors? This pump may overwhelm the stock FPR and raise the pressure some but as long as your tuner accommodates this it should be OK. You'll really need to do the heavier gauge re-wire for the higher voltage and amperage draw of this pump!

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Old 10-21-2013, 07:43 PM   #7730
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I'm running the 400 (ID1000's - base pressure of 50 PSI), but with a 10AWG wire relayed from the battery and an Aeromotive FPR. I wouldn't run it without doing a hardwire as you won't nearly take advantage of it and could overwork the factory wiring/controller.
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Old 10-22-2013, 01:23 AM   #7731
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Yes, I have been but with the 12 gauge rewire, 40 amp relay and an Aeromotive 1000 FPR. I've found the limit of this setup thru the stock FPC with my 58lb turbo and ID1300's/50 psi base at just under 600whp.

What turbo are you planning to use with this and what injectors? This pump may overwhelm the stock FPR and raise the pressure some but as long as your tuner accommodates this it should be OK. You'll really need to do the heavier gauge re-wire for the higher voltage and amperage draw of this pump!
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I'm running the 400 (ID1000's - base pressure of 50 PSI), but with a 10AWG wire relayed from the battery and an Aeromotive FPR. I wouldn't run it without doing a hardwire as you won't nearly take advantage of it and could overwork the factory wiring/controller.
thanks for the input guys. currently im using a blouch dom3xtr @~24psi w/deatschwerks sidefeed 1100's, fed by a DW300 fuel pump thats hardwired with 10gauge wire from the battery and using a 40A relay also with 10gauge wire triggered by the + side of the FPC. negative side is untouched to keep the oem FPC control.

the rewire worked great as i dropped IDC's about 10-12%. it might drop further if i hardwired it to 100% all the time but i dont feel thats necessary, and not really desired on the stock fpr. so basically what i was wanting to do was leave it all the same with only a higher flowing walbro 400lph pump.

currently at 450/450 on virtual dyno on the corn.

i always log on the same road and my virtual dyno numbers before e85, pump 91oct (350whp/330tq) nearly matched my actual dynojet numbers on pump so i'd say the new e85 numbers are more or less close. the only reason id want more fuel pump is to see if it would help lower my IDC's. they're basically right at 100% near the top of a 4th gear pull. so im not necessarily trying to do the larger fuel pump for more power.

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Old 10-22-2013, 05:44 PM   #7732
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A friend of mine is installing a brand new subaru shortblock since his last one had a catastrophic rod failure after less than 1k miles.

He is wondering if he could reuse his killer B oil pick up and oil pump? they have less than 1k miles. He is buying a new oil cooler.

What you guys think?
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Old 10-22-2013, 06:04 PM   #7733
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A friend of mine is installing a brand new subaru shortblock since his last one had a catastrophic rod failure after less than 1k miles.

He is wondering if he could reuse his killer B oil pick up and oil pump? they have less than 1k miles. He is buying a new oil cooler.

What you guys think?
The pick up without a doubt. Did he have oil pressure problems, or do you know? I know who you're talking about I'd say take the pump apart and clean it too.

And make sure you have pressure before starting it.
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Old 10-22-2013, 06:27 PM   #7734
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The pick up without a doubt. Did he have oil pressure problems, or do you know? I know who you're talking about I'd say take the pump apart and clean it too.

And make sure you have pressure before starting it.
He doesn't have an oil pressure gauge. I hope this time he can keep that thing together for longer than a few miles.
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Old 10-22-2013, 06:41 PM   #7735
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He doesn't have an oil pressure gauge. I hope this time he can keep that thing together for longer than a few miles.
Buy a $15 mechanical one and hook it up when you get it in but before starting just to test the long block.
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Old 10-22-2013, 06:48 PM   #7736
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The pick up without a doubt. Did he have oil pressure problems, or do you know? I know who you're talking about I'd say take the pump apart and clean it too. And make sure you have pressure before starting it.
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He doesn't have an oil pressure gauge. I hope this time he can keep that thing together for longer than a few miles.
I would agree with 340duster (which by the way I loved those dusters but that's another story), oil pick up for sure, very easy to clean and bomber construction. I would think if he disassembled the pump cleaned it, polished out nicks etc. and checked clearances, maybe re-shim it.
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Old 10-22-2013, 11:26 PM   #7737
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Pretty much story of my first Subaru was to have the fastest Subaru wagon in Minnesota and this was the out-come.

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- EJ207 Version 8 semi-closed block
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- 1st-2nd straight cut 3rd-4th heli-cut 5th - stock
- VSS Pro (vehicle speed sensor)
- 03 transmission case
- Clutch Master 4-puck extreme
- ACT street-light flywheel
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- Welded center diff snap ring


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- 2003 wrx sedan front-end swap
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- stock 08 rims
- stock 02 RS hood
- Prosport oil/boost gauge
- AEM urgo A/F
- window tint 50% front two windows and the rest 15% (sun control)
- Front brakes 05 LGT brakes with HAWK TBC....rears stock..
- strut tower bars front & rear
- foglight covers


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- Hardwire fuel pump w/relay 10g wire
- walbro 465 fuel pump
- KB Boost-A-Pump
- stock fuel rails
- tomiac FPR
- injectors ID2000 (flow tested at 2200)

Turbo Setup

- PTE 62/66 (t-3 / 3" V-band) journal bearing
- Rotated intake manifold
- Custom intercooler 2.5" & 3" piping by -Fobiafab-
- Ebay intercooler 36"L-12"H-4.5"W
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- Grimmspeed manual boost controller
- custom 3" down pipe with 3.5" electric cutout by -Fobiafab
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- JDM twin-scroll 06 LGT STK headers and up-pipe into 1.5" T-3 flange
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Old 10-22-2013, 11:27 PM   #7738
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Old 10-22-2013, 11:27 PM   #7739
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Fuel E85
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Old 10-23-2013, 11:47 AM   #7740
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That is a sick wagon. It will surprise the **** out of some people I'm sure.

You aren't really running a stock 16-bit (usdm) ECU are you? You need a JDM ECU to run the avcs.

What kind of power is it making? How much boost?

I'm interested to see how the stroked (right?) 207 does with this turbo setup as I'm currently exploring options for my wife's 207 swapped bugeye.
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Old 10-23-2013, 12:28 PM   #7741
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You don't have to use the avcs...disconnected it will just default to 0* advance, which essentially would be like running non-avcs cams. I ran avcs ej255 heads on a 16bit usdm ecu without any issues and so have plenty of other people on here.
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Old 10-23-2013, 12:33 PM   #7742
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You don't have to use the avcs...disconnected it will just default to 0* advance, which essentially would be like running non-avcs cams. I ran avcs ej255 heads on a 16bit usdm ecu without any issues and so have plenty of other people on here.
Sure - its not that you can't do it, its that you wouldn't want to. You can reduce a the lag a lot with avcs so its really nice to run it if your heads already have it there.
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Old 10-23-2013, 02:01 PM   #7743
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I agree that avcs helps with spool, but I personally never missed it when I ran with it disconnected. Also, depending on the use of the vehicle, it may never even be in the rpm range where it would even matter.
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Old 10-23-2013, 02:31 PM   #7744
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I agree that avcs helps with spool, but I personally never missed it when I ran with it disconnected. Also, depending on the use of the vehicle, it may never even be in the rpm range where it would even matter.
Sure - I can agree with that as well. I've felt the difference a few times on my wife's car and on my 2011 when I've driven off too quickly after a flash and it hasn't initialized yet. On her car, its painfully obvious when its not on but on my car I didn't notice it much on the stock turbo but with the Dom 3.5, the spool is very slow without avcs, like 500-600 rpms slow.
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Old 10-23-2013, 02:33 PM   #7745
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Yeah my fp red was only about 400rpm slower
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Old 10-23-2013, 02:54 PM   #7746
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I agree that avcs helps with spool, but I personally never missed it when I ran with it disconnected. Also, depending on the use of the vehicle, it may never even be in the rpm range where it would even matter.
the avcs goes out to 6800 on a 207. it'd pretty hard to stay outta that range lol

it made a drastic difference in daily driving on my car

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Old 10-23-2013, 02:55 PM   #7747
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I wouldn't run without AVCS, that's silly.
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Old 10-23-2013, 03:04 PM   #7748
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Yeah my fp red was only about 400rpm slower
Where'd you get that thing to 20# anyways?

AVCS delete to keep oil pressure for more important things?
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Old 10-23-2013, 03:21 PM   #7749
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Compant that sent me my engine sent me the wrong ECU with a immobilizer in it V9 so currently waiting on new ECU... reving to 9000 rpms full 32psi at 6000rpms makes a tad over 600whp without AVCS and not fully tune yet

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That is a sick wagon. It will surprise the **** out of some people I'm sure.

You aren't really running a stock 16-bit (usdm) ECU are you? You need a JDM ECU to run the avcs.

What kind of power is it making? How much boost?

I'm interested to see how the stroked (right?) 207 does with this turbo setup as I'm currently exploring options for my wife's 207 swapped bugeye.
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Old 10-23-2013, 03:34 PM   #7750
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Compant that sent me my engine sent me the wrong ECU with a immobilizer in it V9 so currently waiting on new ECU... reving to 9000 rpms full 32psi at 6000rpms makes a tad over 600whp without AVCS and not fully tune yet
Very nice!

Post some dyno graphs or driving videos when you get a chance please.

I'm interested to see how your build handles that boost level. What did you do for head studs?
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