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Old 03-10-2010, 09:39 AM   #251
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Thanks guys. And congrats to Ken too. I finally saw the picture when I got home last night. Mark, I'll talk to you about that 18g. And we may have to reschedule this weekend, my dumb ass probably ordered the wrong swaybar. Cornfead, glad to see your beast is on the road again.
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Old 03-10-2010, 10:21 AM   #252
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^^ I saw that it is supposed to rain too, Big Ten tourny is this weekend so i could def see some wings action. let me know
saweeet another college basketball fan!!! march madness!! best time of the year!

congrats to ken and jason too!!!!
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Old 03-10-2010, 10:40 AM   #253
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Thanks dudes and congrats, Jason!
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Old 03-10-2010, 10:41 AM   #254
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anybody have any experience with the turboxs utec? impressions?
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Old 03-10-2010, 10:59 AM   #255
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I had the UTEC. Now running the Cobb AP. Mine worked fine for the first 6-8 months and then I had an issue where any time I got into boost the car would lurch and shut off... Took it off and replaced with the AP. All better now...
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:03 AM   #256
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numbers wise too are similar to the AP for stg 1 and 2 (for the pre programed packages) i wanted a utec for the longest time but i went AP instead
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:16 AM   #257
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maybe i will just go hydra then, i'm a standalone guy lol

i don't get my tax return till may so i have a couple months to think about it
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:29 AM   #258
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maybe i will just go hydra then, i'm a standalone guy lol

i don't get my tax return till may so i have a couple months to think about it
I see no reason to go with Utec unless you want to be able to change maps on the fly. Have you looked into opensource? Hydra sounds like its nice, but unless you are going big I dont know why you'd want to go that route either...
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:33 AM   #259
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i see opensource as too risky, ive always had standalone and feel most comfortable with that, i will be going e85 with the hta68 and ewg and will feel better with standalone...i think
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:37 AM   #260
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^thats legit i kinda feel the same way about opensource even though i know down the line mark is gonna convince me to go opensource lol!!
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:42 AM   #261
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and the hydra comes with a built in wideband, well for 300 bones more lol but it's worth it
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:52 AM   #262
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i see opensource as too risky, ive always had standalone and feel most comfortable with that, i will be going e85 with the hta68 and ewg and will feel better with standalone...i think
What do you find risky about opensource? Its been used successfully by many people on here, and countless other people. The only problem we've had with it has been Clint's ECU crashing, and he said he thinks he flashed the wrong map on there and thats why it crashed. I've personally flashed my ECU over 100 times :knock on wood: and its still fine. I'm not too concerned with replacing the ECU either seeing as they only go for about $100

If you did decide to go opensource either myself or Clint would probably be more than happy to give you a crash course on tuning it the right ways.
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:28 PM   #263
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I have no problem with OS, I was debating between that and Cobb. The nice thing about Cobb is you get a bunch of different feedbacks and all your maps on a device the size of a blackberry.
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:29 PM   #264
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^Crash course much needed for THIS GUY!!
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:36 PM   #265
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I have no problem with OS, I was debating between that and Cobb. The nice thing about Cobb is you get a bunch of different feedbacks and all your maps on a device the size of a blackberry.
it is convienent i am probably gonna trade in my v1 for the v2 apparently u get 200 towards the v2 for trading in the v1 so yeah totally worth it imo i think i just like the idea to be able to switch maps whenever ya feel like it and the v2 is tunable so thats kinda cool and all the live data it reads probably gonna get on that in the near future
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:49 PM   #266
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Opensource FTMFW!!!!!
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:59 PM   #267
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Today I saw an Impreza getting towed with its rear wheels on the ground, by a flatbed with a Cadillac on the bed .
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Old 03-10-2010, 01:00 PM   #268
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Today I saw an Impreza getting towed with its rear wheels on the ground, by a flatbed with a Cadillac on the bed .
Hope to god it was an old ass brighton FWD.
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Old 03-10-2010, 01:16 PM   #269
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maybe i will just go hydra then, i'm a standalone guy lol

i don't get my tax return till may so i have a couple months to think about it
If you are going standalone, the AEM is better than the Hydra. I need to find the video of Dynoflash comparing the AEM and the Hydra to a prom queen & prostitute, respectively.

What makes you think open source is risky? It adjusts the tables on the ECU like any other reflash. It's no riskier than any other engine management. In fact, the data logging tools are so good, I would argue that it is less risky than many of them. Most of the locals run open source with no problems.

AEM UEGO is one of the best widebands around, too. Altho the Innovate LC-1 gets the job done for me just fine
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Old 03-10-2010, 01:38 PM   #270
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it is convienent i am probably gonna trade in my v1 for the v2 apparently u get 200 towards the v2 for trading in the v1 so yeah totally worth it imo i think i just like the idea to be able to switch maps whenever ya feel like it and the v2 is tunable so thats kinda cool and all the live data it reads probably gonna get on that in the near future
The constant stream of data from the thing is by far it's best attribute, having all your maps with you at all times is just a perk. I don't find it especially useful now but after going E-85 it will be nice to have 91 and 93 maps with me just in case. Only once last year did I end up in an area where the highest octane I could find was 90 with 10% ethanol. Having the stock map handy was nice, and even then the car hated the fuel.
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Old 03-10-2010, 01:47 PM   #271
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I can vouch for opensource. Clint did a great job and we didnt even spend that long on it.
BTW Mark, sale on my car is pending right now but its still up for sale if anyone is interersted!
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Old 03-10-2010, 01:59 PM   #272
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it is convienent i am probably gonna trade in my v1 for the v2 apparently u get 200 towards the v2 for trading in the v1 so yeah totally worth it imo i think i just like the idea to be able to switch maps whenever ya feel like it and the v2 is tunable so thats kinda cool and all the live data it reads probably gonna get on that in the near future
you can trade it in? i have the v1 right now so who do i trade it in to? cobb? or any vendor?
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Old 03-10-2010, 02:06 PM   #273
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you can trade it in? i have the v1 right now so who do i trade it in to? cobb? or any vendor?
http://www.cobbtuning.com/info/?id=3846
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Old 03-10-2010, 02:07 PM   #274
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My question is if opensource is so awesome and no-risk, why are there so few shops that use it? Why would they even bother making any of the numerous available standalones? And Mark I believe that you flashed your ecu that many times, but why are there so many articles on the stock ecu's lack of memory? I know I've read that you can only reflash it 30 to 40 times til it's bricked.
I don't know, but if it was MY ride I would want it tuned by a shop with the funds to back up any errors that were made. If a car is tuned poorly or just plain wrong, I would feel better know that there is an established business willing to stand behind the work (financially). If they blow up my motor, they can afford to fix it...
I look at opensource as being a cost effective way to smooth out and correct the factory's data. I wouldn't want to put a big ol turbo and injectors on a car without having some serious flexibilty as far as tuning goes. I don't doubt that you can give it a bit more power or smoothness, but I don't think it could produce the numbers of a pro-tune done in a controlled environment on a dyno with little or no variables (heat, air circulation, traffic, bad roads, tire slippage, etc...
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Old 03-10-2010, 02:09 PM   #275
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you can trade it in? i have the v1 right now so who do i trade it in to? cobb? or any vendor?
I think you could probably get more $$ for it selling it outright. $200 doesn't seem like a very good deal...
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