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Old 05-04-2007, 05:14 AM   #1
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Default Is the space program worth all the money we're spending?

We spend billions of dollars on satellites which are sent all over the solar system to take pictures, map planets, drop probes, and even crash into comets.

I'm of the opinion that very few of these are even worth building. While I find pics of Saturn interesting, I doubt if they're worth what we spent on the equipment to get the pics.

We crashed a probe into a comet. While cool, it didn't really give us anything truly significant. Some would argue the technology used to guide the probe into the path of the oncoming comet could some day be used to guide a nuclear warhead into the path of a comet hell-bent on destroying Earth. Otherwise, it impressed a lot of geeked-out scientists, but didn't really advance the human race, did it?

We've got a probe on the way to Pluto. It's not even a damn planet anymore! How much did that mission cost?

What about the rovers on Mars? Yeah, we've learned a ton about the history of Mars, but we didn't exactly find a flowing river, did we? We're still paying guys to drive those things around, too.

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Old 05-04-2007, 05:16 AM   #2
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Why cure cancer, when we can see Mars?
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Old 05-04-2007, 05:18 AM   #3
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Is the space program worth all the money we're spending?
You mean in comparison to Operation Iraqi Freedom?

I mean The War on Terror?
Iraqi War?
I can't remember what we're calling it now...
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Old 05-04-2007, 05:22 AM   #4
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if the american super power isn't going to do these things.. who will?
the russians?

then we'll all have to учитесь говорить на русском языке
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Old 05-04-2007, 05:31 AM   #5
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Yeah, exploration is stupid. Nothing good ever comes out of it. Just like when Chris Columbus sailed west instead of around Africa... Nothing good whatsoever came of that.

IB someone says if something was out there, we'd have found it already.
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Old 05-04-2007, 05:31 AM   #6
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You mean in comparison to Operation Iraqi Freedom?

I mean The War on Terror?
Iraqi War?
I can't remember what we're calling it now...
The "Kill the brown people war"?
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Old 05-04-2007, 05:31 AM   #7
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Yeah, exploration is stupid. Nothing good ever comes out of it. Just like when Chris Columbus sailed west instead of around Africa... Nothing good whatsoever came of that.

IB someone says if something was out there, we'd have found it already.
We would have.
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Old 05-04-2007, 06:40 AM   #8
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And how much are you guessing that we spend on NASA each year??



While the number itself might sound kind of high to an individual, in reality the ~$15B we spend on NASA is chump-change compared to most other government programs. Homeland Security and all the pork-belly programs that go along with that gets about 3x what NASA gets. Department of Agriculture gets about $90B to make sure that farmers get money for not planting crops. The Department of Defense (not including what is being wasted on this war) gets almost $600B to make sure that defense contractors can over-charge us on programs that were designed to fight an enemy that doesn't even exist any longer. And to top it all off - we drop about $500B each and every year to pay off the interest - just the interest - on our national deficit.

The knowledge and technology that comes out of NASA is vast and far reaching - it drives a lot of the technology that comes out of this country and thus creates incalculable about to wealth.
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Old 05-04-2007, 07:04 AM   #9
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And how much are you guessing that we spend on NASA each year??



While the number itself might sound kind of high to an individual, in reality the ~$15B we spend on NASA is chump-change compared to most other government programs. Homeland Security and all the pork-belly programs that go along with that gets about 3x what NASA gets. Department of Agriculture gets about $90B to make sure that farmers get money for not planting crops. The Department of Defense (not including what is being wasted on this war) gets almost $600B to make sure that defense contractors can over-charge us on programs that were designed to fight an enemy that doesn't even exist any longer. And to top it all off - we drop about $500B each and every year to pay off the interest - just the interest - on our national deficit.

The knowledge and technology that comes out of NASA is vast and far reaching - it drives a lot of the technology that comes out of this country and thus creates incalculable about to wealth.
Good post. I'm going to find the graphical representation of where your money goes. You'll see what I mean when I post it.

Found it: http://www.thebudgetgraph.com/

Leading scientists have been saying for years that we need to explore and develop the technology to habitate other planets if the human race expects to survive long-term. I don't always agree that manned space flight is the best way to spend our money right now, but we should be exploring and studying our solar system and everything else out there. The advances in robotics and communications alone that have been and could be made from future probes and rovers are mind blowing.
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Old 05-04-2007, 07:35 AM   #10
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I'm an avid space fan, so im biased and wont get into it. That said, to everyone saying space exploration is pointless:

You do realize that last week they found a planet thats about the same size as earth, appears to have about the same climate as earth and is on average the same temperature as earth....right?

While its very far away...you can't ignore the fact that there is obviously a good chance there are more "earths" out there. Why WOULDNT we want to know more about things like that?
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Old 05-04-2007, 07:52 AM   #11
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Old 05-04-2007, 08:16 AM   #12
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If we don't do it who will?
The Chineese?
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Old 05-04-2007, 08:36 AM   #13
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The Chineese?
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Old 05-04-2007, 08:37 AM   #14
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http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/tec.../spinoffs.html

Doesn't somebody here work for NASA? Many home and office items came from NASA's research, not just space probes and freeze dried ice cream. I think that money is well spent, and to be honest, I'd like to see more spent there.

While I'm not too sure about the future of manned spaceflight, I feel that our exploration of space is critical to our country's ever shrinking lead in technology.

Besides, like Mr. :30 said...
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Old 05-04-2007, 08:39 AM   #15
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money spent on space program is chump change compared to military/war spending.

OP did you go to school? your words sound so ignorant and oblivious.
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Old 05-04-2007, 08:46 AM   #16
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Old 05-04-2007, 08:51 AM   #17
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How about doing a search, on benifits from NASA / the space program....we had quite a thread going for that a while ago.
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Old 05-04-2007, 09:35 AM   #18
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In terms of value/dollar:
$$ spent on NASA>$$-Other govt. progs.>1992 Ford Tempo>Richard Simmons workout tapes>$$ spent on military
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Old 05-04-2007, 09:40 AM   #19
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If you're 40 or younger, I will place bets on hearing news that we found life on another planet before you die.
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Old 05-04-2007, 09:49 AM   #20
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If you're 40 or younger, I will place bets on hearing news that we found life on another planet before you die.
Oh I know we well. Either that or it will find us. One of the two.
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Old 05-04-2007, 09:52 AM   #21
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All that money being spent is providing people jobs in some cases with entire communities revolving around them and is spurring innovation that is used in products we use on a daily basis. Oh, and knowing things is cool on its own as well.
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Old 05-04-2007, 09:58 AM   #22
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All that money being spent is providing people jobs in some cases with entire communities revolving around them and is spurring innovation that is used in products we use on a daily basis. Oh, and knowing things is cool on its own as well.
Finally an informed view.
The space program isn't just for cruising around space...there's a ****tone of innovation that comes from it. Really, its just another gubment R&D group.

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Old 05-04-2007, 10:05 AM   #23
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Here's a page that gives a rundown of the innovations and products that have come out of NASA:

http://www.thespaceplace.com/nasa/spinoffs.html
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The government could cut so many costs if they would just have an in-house firm hiring Contractors, and eliminate the middle man. There's simply far too many overpaid Contractors in the Federal Government.

I should know, I was one of them.
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Old 05-04-2007, 10:08 AM   #25
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Yes. It's worth it. It gave this country the technological edge that we had over the rest of the world. Hopefully it will continue to do its part in helping us keep up with the rest of the world.
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