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Old 04-01-2016, 06:32 PM   #201
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I personally will choose whichever roof option has the most headroom and offers the clearest view of traffic lights. I loathe modern swoopy rooflines that crop out the top portion of my front and front-side view. Make that same roofline with glass and make the door frame big enough that I don't have to duck in and I'll be happy.
We're talking about the rear of the roof, not the front. It won't matter to the driver one bit which roof it is, all the same.
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Old 04-01-2016, 06:37 PM   #202
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Isn't the pano roof glass the whole way? It'll matter to the driver whether they'll be able to look up through the roof at lights or not, a la Model X.
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Old 04-01-2016, 07:18 PM   #203
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Like the rear, love the profile, digging the front (though the non-grill will take some getting used to), but WTF is up with that interior?
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Old 04-01-2016, 08:36 PM   #204
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Isn't the pano roof glass the whole way? It'll matter to the driver whether they'll be able to look up through the roof at lights or not, a la Model X.
I have driven a S, but not a X. In the S I had no issues seeing traffic lights. Maybe I'm missing something here.
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Old 04-01-2016, 10:01 PM   #205
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The P has a front grill and looks better for it, this not so much. Ass end looks good.

And they need to do something about that dash, over did it with the minimalist look.
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Old 04-02-2016, 09:50 AM   #206
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Old 04-02-2016, 11:32 AM   #207
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Like the rear, love the profile, digging the front (though the non-grill will take some getting used to), but WTF is up with that interior?
I really hope there's a HUD. Having main gauges in the center on the display only wouldn't be a deal-killer for me but would displease me greatly.

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I have driven a S, but not a X. In the S I had no issues seeing traffic lights. Maybe I'm missing something here.
It's very user dependent, as it were. I thought the S's roofline was too pulled down, with the A pillar and top edge of door frame too close to my big noggin. I have similar complaints about many vehicles.
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Old 04-02-2016, 11:52 AM   #208
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I like it..... Ill wait for the 3rd-4th year production model.
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Old 04-02-2016, 01:07 PM   #209
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are there any real world pics, taken by someone with a real camera
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Old 04-02-2016, 06:43 PM   #210
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I hope they don't add a grille. Yes it looks odd because we've been looking at grilles our entire lives. If a car doesn't need one, ditch it. It will be only a matter of time before we get used to the new meta.
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Old 04-02-2016, 07:27 PM   #211
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I hope they don't add a grille. Yes it looks odd because we've been looking at grilles our entire lives. If a car doesn't need one, ditch it. It will be only a matter of time before we get used to the new meta.


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I think it has a bit of Cayman / Panamera to it.
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Old 04-03-2016, 03:40 AM   #212
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Ok, Tesla Model S can't outrun your M5 or your X5. You still have to stop at the gas station, don't you?
I can tell you that, given its length/girth/weight, the Model S is deceptively quick. I know a lot of people in the Bay Area are rolling in X5 and there are a fair number of M5 on our roads as well, but that's not everyone. To everyone else, the Model S is significantly quicker than your average Bay Area commuter car.
Yeah but it'll take him about 5 minutes to refuel while the Tesla driver will have to wait over an hour, to be fully charged, while sipping his mocha latte, lol. That is, if a slot is even available.
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Old 04-03-2016, 10:34 AM   #213
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Yeah but it'll take him about 5 minutes to refuel while the Tesla driver will have to wait over an hour, to be fully charged, while sipping his mocha latte, lol. That is, if a slot is even available.
300 mile race
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Old 04-03-2016, 10:47 AM   #214
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Yeah but it'll take him about 5 minutes to refuel while the Tesla driver will have to wait over an hour, to be fully charged, while sipping his mocha latte, lol. That is, if a slot is even available.
Anyone who waits for a full charge is probably an idiot. The superchargers are spaced out such that you should aim for a typical stop to be 25 minutes, but usually only as much as you need. Typically, a Model S driver never stops to charge. You charge at home or work or at your destination. **ck gas stations.

Never being late because "oh ***t I forgot I need gas" is awesome.
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Old 04-03-2016, 05:31 PM   #215
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Anyone who waits for a full charge is probably an idiot. The superchargers are spaced out such that you should aim for a typical stop to be 25 minutes, but usually only as much as you need. Typically, a Model S driver never stops to charge. You charge at home or work or at your destination. **ck gas stations.

Never being late because "oh ***t I forgot I need gas" is awesome.
I use a 480v chademo (supercharger) once every 3 months. > 90% I charge are home.
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Old 04-03-2016, 07:59 PM   #216
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My brother lives 118 miles away. I wouldn't be able to drive to his house and back on a charge.

Nope.

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Old 04-03-2016, 08:04 PM   #217
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My brother lives 118 miles away. I wouldn't be able to drive to his house and back on a charge.

Nope.

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Non-base model 3 will be able to do this round trip. Regardless. Plug in when you get to his house. I assume he has electricity.

edit - and I see your location. You have about ~10 superchargers within a ~120 mile radius of you.
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Old 04-03-2016, 11:49 PM   #218
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Non-base model 3 will be able to do this round trip. Regardless. Plug in when you get to his house. I assume he has electricity.

edit - and I see your location. You have about ~10 superchargers within a ~120 mile radius of you.
They won't work for everybody. Many people would see the extra 15 minutes of topping off on the road so they can get back home, as an inconvenience. Or if the supercharger is slightly out of the way. Others of us gladly accept these constraints due to the fuel savings we get and the lack of maintenance. So we look at that supercharger or 480v chademo as a fuel/cost saving machine. EV's and range anxiety are part of the game. I went through it, any new owner will unto you learn. You have to relearn driving habits. Some people are willing, some aren't. More open chargers for the rest of us.
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Old 04-04-2016, 02:17 AM   #219
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They won't work for everybody. Many people would see the extra 15 minutes of topping off on the road so they can get back home, as an inconvenience. Or if the supercharger is slightly out of the way. Others of us gladly accept these constraints due to the fuel savings we get and the lack of maintenance. So we look at that supercharger or 480v chademo as a fuel/cost saving machine. EV's and range anxiety are part of the game. I went through it, any new owner will unto you learn. You have to relearn driving habits. Some people are willing, some aren't. More open chargers for the rest of us.
I've been to a gas station once in the past 4 months. I had to go hook up a charger to the 12V battery tonight because the car hasn't moved in almost 2 months. Oh, the irony...
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Old 04-04-2016, 08:35 AM   #220
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what's the "supercharger station" world gonna do when there are 250,000+ more of these cars on the road?
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Old 04-04-2016, 09:03 AM   #221
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what's the "supercharger station" world gonna do when there are 250,000+ more of these cars on the road?

I don't plan on road trips (it is a small sedan after all) so it won't bug me. Most I'll do is Supercharge on the way to, say, Vail once per summer. (Winter mountain trips are will remain the Land Cruiser's duty.)

The Bay Area Superchargers will be an absolute zoo, though.
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Old 04-04-2016, 09:14 AM   #222
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what's the "supercharger station" world gonna do when there are 250,000+ more of these cars on the road?
build more supercharging stations?
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Old 04-04-2016, 10:29 AM   #223
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Has it been discussed that this car will not come with a steering wheel? The one mounted to the car for the press release will be replaced by new "spaceship" controls. I am intrigued by this.
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build more supercharging stations?
Implausible. We'll have run out of electrons by then.
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Old 04-04-2016, 10:58 AM   #225
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So how many here put down a deposit ? How much are the popular options?
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