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Old 01-04-2019, 06:49 PM   #1676
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This is a pretty interesting, kind of rambling, discussion about Tesla.

It has some neat tidbits about design choices (and examples) about the magnets in the motor, and the superbottle.

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Old 01-07-2019, 01:56 PM   #1677
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Drink every time Sandy says "At the end of the day"
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Old 01-07-2019, 02:41 PM   #1678
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At the end of the day my employees are buying the kool aid. lol
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Old 01-08-2019, 05:10 PM   #1679
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This is a pretty interesting, kind of rambling, discussion about Tesla.

It has some neat tidbits about design choices (and examples) about the magnets in the motor, and the superbottle.

Sandy Munro's Tesla Deep Dive - Autoline After Hours 447 - YouTube

Here is a short summary of the autoline video:


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Old 01-09-2019, 08:37 AM   #1680
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Here is a short fanboi summary of the autoline video:

https://youtu.be/SKiJrqHmQMg
There, fixed it for you - I'm not saying that bloomberg and Autoline are the most neutral or informed sources of Tesla related information, but those two that "summarized" the Autoline video really just tried to apply the pro-Tesla spin for senpai Musk.
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Old 01-09-2019, 09:26 AM   #1681
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There, fixed it for you - I'm not saying that bloomberg and Autoline are the most neutral or informed sources of Tesla related information, but those two that "summarized" the Autoline video really just tried to apply the pro-Tesla spin for senpai Musk.
Yeah and after watching Sandy Munro's video that guy is an Elon and Tesla fanboi now. I love it.

The Bloomberg is a tool for sure.
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:57 PM   #1682
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Tesla Model X Hits Tree, Splits In Two, Catches Fire
High rate of speed suspected.

Fire erupted after a Tesla Model X collided with a tree and split in two.

Three teenagers were seriously injured in the wreck. One sustained life-threatening injuries. No fatalities reported.

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A 2017 Tesla Model X was driven off the road where it struck a tree. The violent collision split the car in two. Fire began shortly after impact, as the battery pack had been compromised.

Clean up of the wreckage is reportedly still underway, as battery cells were spread throughout the brush.

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Three teenagers were injured after one drove a 2017 Tesla Model X off the road and into a tree in southern New Hampshire on Wednesday, according to state police.

Speed was likely a factor in the accident, according to the accident report, and the car split in two and caught fire after the impact.

The driver and one passenger were taken to a community hospital with “serious but non-life threatening injuries,” while the third passenger was taken to the UMass hospital in Worcester with life-threatening injuries.


Hit link for better photos of the batteries al over lol..can’t get them to post

https://insideevs.com/tesla-model-x-...-catches-fire/
.... annnnddddddd..... they're suing Tesla for providing unsafe cars. https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/b...108-story.html

No dummyheads. They were doing 100+ and then hit something that wasn't doing 100+.

Speed kills. No. Suddenly becoming stationary while speeding does.

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Old 01-09-2019, 01:21 PM   #1683
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For those who don't click the article from KC - the kid was previously pulled over for going 112mph and ticketed, the parents allegedly had a speed limiter installed by the car manufacturer at 85mph, during a subsequent service appointment at the local service center, it had allegedly been removed unbeknownst to the owner.

Direct quote and I s*** you not:

"If the device hadn’t been removed, Riley wouldn’t have been speeding, wouldn’t have lost control, wouldn’t have crashed and neither he nor Martinez would have died, the lawsuit claims."

Because 85mph is not speeding, because careening into a tree at 85mph wouldn't have had similar, if not the same, results.

I'm not saying I didn't speed and do stupid s*** when I was younger, but my mommy and daddy didn't have oodles of cash to get me out of trouble for getting nipped for doing more than double the speed limit (as the predominant speed limit in FL is 55). That gets your license suspended, vehicle impounded, hefty fines, and your butt lands in the local holding cell. I never got caught doing anything that stupid.

I would have been relegated to the heel-toe express if I did that in my own car while living under my parents roof, let alone in my daddies Tesla (note: my daddy doesn't own
a Tesla, he still has a flip phone, and even that is a bit more tech than he wants in his life).
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Old 01-09-2019, 02:10 PM   #1684
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I'm going to laugh when the parents lose the case and end up out of pocket on lawyer / court fees.
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Old 01-09-2019, 02:33 PM   #1685
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For those who don't click the article from KC - the kid was previously pulled over for going 112mph and ticketed, the parents allegedly had a speed limiter installed by the car manufacturer at 85mph, during a subsequent service appointment at the local service center, it had allegedly been removed unbeknownst to the owner.

Direct quote and I s*** you not:

"If the device hadn’t been removed, Riley wouldn’t have been speeding, wouldn’t have lost control, wouldn’t have crashed and neither he nor Martinez would have died, the lawsuit claims."

Because 85mph is not speeding, because careening into a tree at 85mph wouldn't have had similar, if not the same, results.

I'm not saying I didn't speed and do stupid s*** when I was younger, but my mommy and daddy didn't have oodles of cash to get me out of trouble for getting nipped for doing more than double the speed limit (as the predominant speed limit in FL is 55). That gets your license suspended, vehicle impounded, hefty fines, and your butt lands in the local holding cell. I never got caught doing anything that stupid.

I would have been relegated to the heel-toe express if I did that in my own car while living under my parents roof, let alone in my daddies Tesla (note: my daddy doesn't own
a Tesla, he still has a flip phone, and even that is a bit more tech than he wants in his life).
Yeah, the suit should really be with the dealer, that did not reinitialize the limiter.

But to me, it's more... "so you knew your kid was driving recklessly, speeding, has been caught, and you allowed him continuance on his own recognizance? That if you parented, and took away access to the car, he'd probably still be alive?" *gavel* DENIED!

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I'm going to laugh when the parents lose the case and end up out of pocket on lawyer / court fees.
And this is a case to show why the country is fd Up with entitlement. Do something completely stupid with a consumer product then sue the consumer product manu. Too bad we cant lock the parents up in jail. I remember being that age and that vehicle, in terms of acceleration, is like handling the high school me keys to a Porsche or Ferrari. Nothing bad would happen
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Old 01-09-2019, 02:41 PM   #1687
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LOL okay so hitting a concrete barrier at 112 = instant death but hitting it at 85 means everyone will get out smiling..

Idiots.

Everything about this article screams spoiled rich brat. Like the part where the kid got ticketed for going 112mph. Most parents would, you know, take the car away. They are just as much to blame but letting him and his friend continue to drive the car.
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Old 01-09-2019, 02:43 PM   #1688
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And this is a case to show why the country is fd Up with entitlement. Do something completely stupid with a consumer product then sue the consumer product manu. Too bad we cant lock the parents up in jail. I remember being that age and that vehicle, in terms of acceleration, is like handling the high school me keys to a Porsche or Ferrari. Nothing bad would happen
The system should come up with a frivolous lawsuit penalty. If the lawsuit is found to be frivolous, the accuser has to pay not only court fees but 10% of the amount they were seeking in which those funds go to funding government programs / policy or a charity.

People would think long and hard before trying to make money off frivolous lawsuits.
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Old 01-09-2019, 02:47 PM   #1689
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The system should come up with a frivolous lawsuit penalty. If the lawsuit is found to be frivolous, the accuser has to pay not only court fees but 10% of the amount they were seeking in which those funds go to funding government programs / policy or a charity.

People would think long and hard before trying to make money off frivolous lawsuits.
Also penalize the lawyers for wasting tax payers money on this garbage.

Last year I got called into jury duty for 10 frickin days for a simple slip and fall case. It was a complete joke. The lady claimed her symptoms did not start until 3 years later from a mild concussion and she claimed she had pictures of the scene where she slipped near the milk case in a grocery store. Laywer provided the cellphone pictures which turned out to have been taken well over a year after the date she claimed she fell. The lawyer and the client were too stupid to realize that your pictures on your phone are timestamped

Still we wasted 10 days and we deliberated for about 10 seconds. Case was thrown out. What a waste.
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Old 01-09-2019, 04:37 PM   #1690
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I agree with the penalty. One of the agencies I work with issue citations for municipal code violations. The citizens can appeal the cite. But, if they lose the appeal, they must pay the cite plus all of the administration fees that go into pulling together resources, evidence, etc for court. Its amazing how many people drop their appeals when they learn this.
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Old 01-09-2019, 04:45 PM   #1691
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I agree with the penalty. One of the agencies I work with issue citations for municipal code violations. The citizens can appeal the cite. But, if they lose the appeal, they must pay the cite plus all of the administration fees that go into pulling together resources, evidence, etc for court. Its amazing how many people drop their appeals when they learn this.
OTOH he who has the most money, wins.


Is it worth it to fight a red light camera ticket (for example) when you go into it with the odds stacked against you?

I like the idea, I believe in the idea, but as you provided an example, people give up justice.
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Old 01-09-2019, 06:38 PM   #1692
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.... annnnddddddd..... they're suing Tesla for providing unsafe cars. https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/b...108-story.html

No dummyheads. They were doing 100+ and then hit something that wasn't doing 100+.

Speed kills. No. Suddenly becoming stationary while speeding does.

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Not the same accident. The one from the quoted post was a Model X in NH while your article is a Model S in FL.

I agree that allowing your child to continue to drive not long after getting a ticket for 112 MPH is stupid. Speed limiter or not it's obvious the kid wasn't responsible enough to drive the car.
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Old 01-09-2019, 06:41 PM   #1693
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Lawyers write the laws. Then vote in the laws. But totally doable.

I put my foxstang into a pasture a la boomerang style pumping Check Your Head in the fog going 5 over. Paid owner for the fence. Girlfriend’s dad gave me a look. Didn’t do that again...ahem with her or in that particular car. lol
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Apparently at that time, there wasn't a way to add a true 'speed limiter' to the cars.

So speculation is that instead the service center put the car into 'Loaner' mode, which limited the top speed to 85ish.

So more speculation is that at a subsequent visit, the service center saw that it was in loaner mode, wasn't sure why, and put it back in 'normal' mode.
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OTOH he who has the most money, wins.


Is it worth it to fight a red light camera ticket (for example) when you go into it with the odds stacked against you?

I like the idea, I believe in the idea, but as you provided an example, people give up justice.
In my example, there is a buffer. The agency has a coordinator who reviews the appeal and checks all of the case notes, talks with the agent, and makes a decision. If the person making the appeal has a valid argument that a reasonable person would agree with, the cite is rescinded. If the appeal is denied, then it is sent to the administrative appeals hearing. A judge hears the case then makes a decision at a later date after reviewing. If the appeal has validity, or, the agent did a **** job of collecting evidence and making a case it's bounced, and the agency eats the admin fees. It's a cost recovery thing really, but it also helps filter out the bull**** appeals, while at the same time holding the agency accountable for writings solid cites and keeping accurate records of the investigation.
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The other day I read that Tesla was dropping the starting price of the model 3 to something like $45k. Where are all of the $35k trims that I heard about, incessantly, for so long?
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OTOH he who has the most money, wins.


Is it worth it to fight a red light camera ticket (for example) when you go into it with the odds stacked against you?

I like the idea, I believe in the idea, but as you provided an example, people give up justice.
Red-light cameras were rendered illegal in Georgia after a lawsuit proved the company running them was manipulating the timing of the Yellow light - shortening the duration to get more offenders, and thus more income. When the state lost the lawsuit, the cameras were no longer allowed to be used.

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The other day I read that Tesla was dropping the starting price of the model 3 to something like $45k. Where are all of the $35k trims that I heard about, incessantly, for so long?
The $35K Teslas will be coming when they can actually make a profit on them.
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I thought it was 35k after all possible incentives / tax rebates etc....
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I thought it was 35k after all possible incentives / tax rebates etc....
The goal was/is a base price of 35k. (ie, standard range battery, non-premium interior, RWD, etc)

I think a lot of people saw a base price of 35k, then deducted the $7500 tax credit, and hoped they could get it for $27.5k.

IIRC, Musk said the current cost is 38k, so they still have some work to do to get their cost lower.
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