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Old 05-22-2003, 06:20 PM   #26
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Here's an E-bay auction for some S202 struts. Are these the same as the Spec Cs? It seems like the colors might be right and they have the blue band instead of the gray one on the rear springs. From the pictures it looks like the Front springs have pink, blue (maybe purple), and green dots and the rears have a yellow and two greens. Apparently the struts have different part numbers though. I'll try to find out more information.

Just got back in the country. Thanks for the link driggity. Yep, rellegedly the S202s have the Rev B RA Spec C suspension. Lets add that one to the list.

dbarnblat????? If you read this please post location of paint codes and strut PNs cause I think you have Rev A STi RA takeoffs.

Thanks for the help guys.

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Old 05-24-2003, 11:45 PM   #27
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Just to confirm, the SPT sedan springs I have are rev a STi RA springs- 20330fe330 front, 20380fe690 rear- I'll try and peak at the paint dobs.

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Old 05-25-2003, 09:21 AM   #28
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What about what Jude DeMeis is selling on ebay?



S202 suspension setup... yum

I bought STi takeoffs from Gruppe-S as well, but mine included STi lowering springs, so I don't have the paint codes to help out But my car looks and handles awesome

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Old 06-10-2003, 10:11 PM   #29
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Confirmed STi RA springs (SPT) dots are as follows:

front single pink dot above w/ purple and green below (on same coil)

rear single yellow dot above w/ orange and green dot below (on same coil)

posted strut part #'s earlier

gray plastic wrap

subysouth- is there a pattern that holds?

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Old 06-12-2003, 11:06 AM   #30
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Confirmed STi RA springs (SPT) dots are as follows:

front single pink dot above w/ purple and green below (on same coil)

rear single yellow dot above w/ orange and green dot below (on same coil)

posted part #'s earlier

subysouth- is there a pattern that holds?

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Well we are getting there. I never heard back from dbarnblatt, but based on your details I think dbarnblatt posted his in the order of the bottom coil dabs first then the top. I am gonna edit the first post and I think we can now say we've got the 2001 RA springs worked out.

An interesting thing about the S202 setup that is posted above is that I have heard conflicting reports about it. I have heard it has the Rev B Sti RA spec C setup and I have also heard it uses slightly lower springs than that setup. So the S202 springs could be even an additional set of PNs.

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Old 06-12-2003, 08:23 PM   #31
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But I have been working like mad... also I've installed my suspension in my car and it's great. Take-offs from Gruppe-s. I asked for Type RA and I guess that's what I got! I had to find my original post and here it is:

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... to figure out what type of springs are out there... with all of these STi take-offs comming out of japan is there a way of identifying these springs... The strut/spring set that I recieved from Gruppe-s the other day has black springs with dabs of paint on the coils as follows:

purple/green/pink paint dabs on front springs

orange/green/yellow paint dabs on rear springs

Am I barking up the wrong tree??
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The order is from bottom up...

Purple and green one one coil with Pink above on the next coil for the fronts.

Orange and green one one coil with yellow above on the next coil for the rears.

The springs have gray plastic sleeve things and the struts are:

Right Fr - 20310FE000
Left Fr - 20310FE010
Right R - 20360FE000
Left R - 20360FE010

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Old 06-12-2003, 08:44 PM   #32
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But I have been working like mad... also I've installed my suspension in my car and it's great. Take-offs from Gruppe-s. I asked for Type RA and I guess that's what I got! I had to find my original post and here it is:

The order is from bottom up... Purple and green one one coil with Pink above on the next coil for the fronts.

Orange and green one one coil with yellow above on the next coil for the rears.
Yeppers, it looks like you have the Rev A STi RA springs, nice setup. The race prepped setups are a little harder to come by. How do you like the ride on the WRX?

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Old 06-12-2003, 10:22 PM   #33
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edited my post above to include color of plastic wrap

Also look at the pic above- the plastic wrap-blue (and progressive winds) are on top. Is that right?

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Old 06-12-2003, 11:01 PM   #34
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edited my post above to include color of plastic wrap

Also look at the pic above- the plastic wrap-blue (and progressive winds) are on top. Is that right?

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Thanks BIGSKY.

On the Rev A and B rear struts the wrap is at the top. The Rev B race prepped seems to have the blue wrap. The S202 suspension pictured above may or may not be identical to the Rev B RA spec C, its definitely a race-prepped setup regardless. I personally think the two setups are identical, but I have conflicting info.

The Rev C rear springs have a reverse taper on the springs and the insulators are at the bottom.

I dont think those are progressive winds on the springs tho, I think those are linear springs.

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edit: Here are some Rev C takeoffs

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Old 06-12-2003, 11:06 PM   #35
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BIGSKYWRX,

Did your setup drop your car much, compared to the stock WRX suspension?

I recently purchased a similar setup except with the JDM 01 STI springs.

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Old 06-13-2003, 12:27 PM   #36
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Excellent job on this subysouth and others,,this really should be made some kind of sticky.

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Old 06-13-2003, 02:15 PM   #37
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Yeppers, it looks like you have the Rev A STi RA springs, nice setup. The race prepped setups are a little harder to come by. How do you like the ride on the WRX?

ss

Isn't the set-up that I have the same as the SPT/STi set-up?

The ride is exactly what I was looking for... I felt the WRX was a little loose with the standard suspension... The ride is now very firm but I love the way the car feels connected to the road now. I did the complete install; the aluminum arms, front swaybar, and rear bushings. It feels great but sometimes the car is just crashing over Los Angeles potholes! I have the UK 17" rims with 215/45-17 tires and the Subaru 4-pot calipers up front.
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Old 06-13-2003, 02:37 PM   #38
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Isn't the set-up that I have the same as the SPT/STi set-up?

The ride is exactly what I was looking for... I felt the WRX was a little loose with the standard suspension... The ride is now very firm but I love the way the car feels connected to the road now. I did the complete install; the aluminum arms, front swaybar, and rear bushings. It feels great but sometimes the car is just crashing over Los Angeles potholes! I have the UK 17" rims with 215/45-17 tires and the Subaru 4-pot calipers up front.
Yep its the same as the SPT/STi setup. I think so far the SPT sedan sets have been identical to the Rev A STi RA suspension setups relative to the struts/springs/topmounts. Did you buy yours as the SPT kit or as takeoffs David? Regardless of the source its a great setup.

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Old 06-13-2003, 10:38 PM   #39
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Yep its the same as the SPT/STi setup. I think so far the SPT sedan sets have been identical to the Rev A STi RA suspension setups relative to the struts/springs/topmounts. Did you buy yours as the SPT kit or as takeoffs David? Regardless of the source its a great setup.

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They were take-offs from Gruppe-s. I felt I got a pretty good deal overall. The take-offs were $750 from Gruppe-s and I bought the aluminum arms for $335 and the sway-bar/bushing kit for $118 (both from Exeter). I wanted the Type RA spring/struts so they would match the kit components for the remaining SPT/STi parts I got from Exeter.
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Old 06-16-2003, 09:39 AM   #40
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Most of the setups I've seen (including mine) have the gray wrap at the bottom, like the pic of the rev c- that is where the "progressive "wind is also (at the bottom). There is about two winds of "progressive" spring in the rears- it may be simply a preload, but they are definitely a tighter wind.

Where is everyone's else gray wrap- now I'm really curious.

My drop was approx 10mm front/rear, from what I've read this may be slightly unusal as many are only seeing a slight drop in the rear.

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Old 06-16-2003, 10:22 AM   #41
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Most of the setups I've seen (including mine) have the gray wrap at the bottom, like the pic of the rev c- that is where the "progressive "wind is also (at the bottom). There is about two winds of "progressive" spring in the rears- it may be simply a preload, but they are definitely a tighter wind.

Where is everyone's else gray wrap- now I'm really curious.

My drop was approx 10mm front/rear, from what I've read this may be slightly unusal as many are only seeing a slight drop in the rear.

Big Sky
Big Sky without exception, every single STi Rev A or B(either "regular" or race-prepped-gray or blue) set of rear factory takeoff strut assemblies has had the coil wrapping and "progressive" coils at the top.

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Old 06-16-2003, 03:36 PM   #42
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I'll have to do some more checking, but the rev c are also w/ the "progressive" coils at the bottom, also darnblatt read off the same paint blobs in the correct order as well, which means his are installed exactly like mine.

The SPT catalog also shows the springs orienated w/ the gray sleezes at the bottom- ofcourse they are unasembled, but you would thin they would have them orietated correctly above the strut (maybe not).

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Old 06-16-2003, 03:43 PM   #43
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I'll have to do some more checking, but the rev c are also w/ the "progressive" coils at the bottom, also darnblatt read off the same paint blobs in the correct order as well, which means his are installed exactly like mine.

The SPT catalog also shows the springs orienated w/ the gray sleezes at the bottom- ofcourse they are unasembled, but you would think they would have them orientated correctly above the strut (maybe not).

Also if I'm not mistaken, the "pig coil" needed to fit into the bottom of the strut is at the "botttom" w/ the gray wrap, the upper portion of the spring is relatively flattened to accomodate the rubber upper perch (sits below the GD rear top).

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I'll have to do some more checking, but the rev c are also w/ the "progressive" coils at the bottom, also darnblatt read off the same paint blobs in the correct order as well, which means his are installed exactly like mine.

The SPT catalog also shows the springs orienated w/ the gray sleezes at the bottom- ofcourse they are unasembled, but you would think they would have them orientated correctly above the strut (maybe not).

Also if I'm not mistaken, the "pig coil" needed to fit into the bottom of the strut is at the "botttom" w/ the gray wrap, the upper portion of the spring is relatively flattened to accomodate the rubber upper perch (sits below the GD rear top).

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Yep BIGSKY, Rev Cs definitely have the gray insulators and "progressive" coils on the bottom. Those are the ones I bought and I knew the whole lineage on that set.

My post above says Rev A and B, not C.

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Purple and green one one coil with Pink above on the next coil for the fronts.

Orange and green one one coil with yellow above on the next coil for the rears.
That's the correct orientation. One paint dab above, two below. And if you orient them that way you end up with the insulators at the top I believe. But bear in mind I have only seen pics of the assembled Rev A and B struts, albeit at this point a number of them.

Let us know.

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Mine are orientated w/ green dab and orange dab (approx 3.5"'s apart) on the same coil w/ a single yellow dab above (gray sleeves on bottom- progressive portion). Maybe I have mine installed upside down. If I'm not mistaken the oe rears also had a small "progressive" section and they were on the bottom IIRC, may have also had a wrap on them?

I'll have to do some more checking.

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Mine are orientated w/ green dab and orange dab (approx 3.5"'s apart) on the same coil w/ a single yellow dab above (gray sleeves on bottom- progressive portion). Maybe I have mine installed upside down. If I'm not mistaken the oe rears also had a small "progressive" section and they were on the bottom IIRC, may have also had a wrap on them?

I'll have to do some more checking.

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Hey BIGSKY again keep us posted. For clarity your previous post said orange and green(with me assuming left to right) and this post says green and orange(again I'm assuming left to right), so which one is it? With the single yellow dab oriented above these two.

Also on my Rev C springs the isulators were adhered onto the coils, are the insulators on your springs adhered?

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edit: And now that I am thinking about it, I have never seen a pic of what was or I thought was an assembled set of Rev A RA struts. You could well be right about the insulator location. The "regular" Rev A and B and Rev B race-prepped versions seem to all have the rear insulators at the top.
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Old 06-19-2003, 10:20 PM   #47
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If they're not orientated correctly, they sure are working good .

Orange -> green, left to right w/ the yellow dab directly centered above on the next coil.

Can't tell if they're adhered or not, they're on tight but can't tell if there only slipped.

How do you like the v8's?

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How do you like the v8's?

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The struts were exceptional in their response but the "regular" Ver8 STi springs were not stiff enough for my heavier BG Legacy. I sold the Ver8s to another member and I am currently searching for a set of race-prepped assemblies. I think the higher rates may be just right for my wagon.

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Old 06-20-2003, 12:06 AM   #49
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I just installed my Rev A STI takeoffs (struts, springs, and tophats) a few days ago. I definitely like the way the car handles. Initial turn-in response has improved greatly. Definitely firmer than stock with a little more bounce over certain types of pavement. The ride hieght measures about identical in front with possibly 10mm drop in the back.

Just thought I would add my two cents to the thread!
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get yourself a set of Cusco sway bars (rear@23mm), a rear Cusco strut bar, and a good alignment and you'll love it even more---trust me
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