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Old 10-12-2011, 11:09 PM   #10101
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Hey 2008subaruimpreza --- What's an 09' 2.5i with 22K miles in like new condition worth on there? Put in premium alloy wheels... I'm on PS3 browser ATM and that website doesn't work.
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Old 10-13-2011, 01:46 AM   #10102
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All Im going to say about that 'rant' is; if you are looking for a project subaru then have at it, I guess one could make the point that the insurance this, and my credit that, (as far as money goes) but IF you manage to save that much put it down on an STI. Like I said though if you want to do a complete STI swap to a 2.5, have at it and be sure to start a thread about it too. But with the time and effort, its not really worth it.
Its your money though

BTW I bought my 08 hatch 2.5 with less than 40k on it this year for 16000. So do some more looking out there!
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Old 10-13-2011, 01:56 AM   #10103
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I'd go with something light like 50% My buddy has 5% with 50% on the windshield... It's so nice. Although I'm only at 20% I think it will still be just as nice.

As for the intake... I can give you a very special price and free delivery!
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Old 10-13-2011, 02:12 AM   #10104
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Really got tired of reading the threads that start out with a good question and quickly go to the go buy a WRX post so i to use good old KBB.com to see the difference and maybe talk some sense into some people, so here it goes all are 2008 year models and were rated in excellent condition and at retail prices, the 2.5i goes for 17330 WRX-23375, and STI-31005. I do not claim to be the smartest person on here but if I save $13675.00 buying the 2.5i and use some of that money to build it, pretty sure i could get close to what what the STI puts out.
Oh and to the people out there that say you could just put that money into the STI I really want you to stop and think about some basic mathematics before you open your mouth. If you already spent 13675 more from the start and then put the same amount in I still win!
I guess the whole point to this rant is, if the only advice you can give is go buy a WRX or an STI maybe you should just go to the top of the page and click the little arrow at the top left and find somewhere else to be a jack***.
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Old 10-13-2011, 02:19 AM   #10105
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Like I said though if you want to do a complete STI swap to a 2.5, have at it and be sure to start a thread about it too. But with the time and effort, its not really worth it.
That really is the only way to get STI power out of a 2.5i, and it wouldn't even be a 2.5i anymore.

I think the N/As can be great project cars, but in just about every aspect but performance. Our engines aren't made to support more power... so if that's what you're looking for, 2008subaruimpreza, then you really should heed the advice of those that say to get a WRX/STI. They know what they're talking about.

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Old 10-13-2011, 02:41 AM   #10106
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^thats kind of what I was trying to get at. I've seen older 2.5s get completely swapped on here (IIRC). More commonly WRXs though, and that's not a bad idea either, doing the right MODs to a WRX can/will be able to keep up with a stock STI, at least.
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Old 10-13-2011, 03:40 AM   #10107
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Get a GC, drop an STi engine/tranny in it, coils, wheels, sways and call it a day. RSTi's ftw.
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Old 10-13-2011, 06:48 AM   #10108
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Some of us want the reliability of a NA car so we opt for a newer 2.5i. Sure I could have bought a WRX or STi for $14500 but instead I opted for my 2008 2.5i because it's cheaper to own as far as insurance and maintenance. My next car will probably be a WRX or a LGT but right now this works for me. Can't stand when people say "shoulda bought a WRX".

Also, last night I drove 50 miles to trade hoods and the guy backed out because I killed a bug with my hood on the way and my paints dull, yet we didn't even park side by side to compare haha. So I'm still looking!
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Old 10-13-2011, 06:57 AM   #10109
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Really got tired of reading the threads that start out with a good question and quickly go to the go buy a WRX post so i to use good old KBB.com to see the difference and maybe talk some sense into some people, so here it goes all are 2008 year models and were rated in excellent condition and at retail prices, the 2.5i goes for 17330 WRX-23375, and STI-31005. I do not claim to be the smartest person on here but if I save $13675.00 buying the 2.5i and use some of that money to build it, pretty sure i could get close to what what the STI puts out.
Oh and to the people out there that say you could just put that money into the STI I really want you to stop and think about some basic mathematics before you open your mouth. If you already spent 13675 more from the start and then put the same amount in I still win!
I guess the whole point to this rant is, if the only advice you can give is go buy a WRX or an STI maybe you should just go to the top of the page and click the little arrow at the top left and find somewhere else to be a jack***.
NOPE

There is no building on a 2.5i engine. The only way to get STi power or more out of a NA Subaru is to swap in a different engine. But that's only the engine. There's still the transmission, suspension, drivetrain, and some key interior/exterior features that would need to be changed as well. Sure it may be able to be done for the price but it won't be worth the time and energy spent. And once it's done you better be happy with it want want to keep it. No one is going to want to spend a bunch of money on your creation.

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I bought my 08 hatch 2.5 with less than 40k on it this year for 16000. So do some more looking out there!
Hmm... $16k with <40k... From a selling point, that's not bad. I recently checked the value on my car and it came up around $17k. Not bad considering I bought it new 2 years ago for $17.5K

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Old 10-13-2011, 12:08 PM   #10110
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Really got tired of reading the threads that start out with a good question and quickly go to the go buy a WRX post so i to use good old KBB.com to see the difference and maybe talk some sense into some people, so here it goes all are 2008 year models and were rated in excellent condition and at retail prices, the 2.5i goes for 17330 WRX-23375, and STI-31005. I do not claim to be the smartest person on here but if I save $13675.00 buying the 2.5i and use some of that money to build it, pretty sure i could get close to what what the STI puts out.
Oh and to the people out there that say you could just put that money into the STI I really want you to stop and think about some basic mathematics before you open your mouth. If you already spent 13675 more from the start and then put the same amount in I still win!
I guess the whole point to this rant is, if the only advice you can give is go buy a WRX or an STI maybe you should just go to the top of the page and click the little arrow at the top left and find somewhere else to be a jack***.
I'm not trying to bash on your thoughts of increasing the output of a 2.5I. Sure it's been done and had more popularity on the old RS's during the pre-WRX era. However, there is more than just throwing a turbo on it and calling it good. The engine block, internals, are of a different design and the 2.5I engine is not designed for this increase in power and maintain longevity.

Sure you can rip the engine apart and replace the internals with high end stuff but the block is still the same. At this point, you're close enough to do a straight swap or even purchase a used WRX or STI block/engine and build it to your liking.

Other things to consider are how to transfer that power to the ground effectively (transmission, rear diff, tires, suspension, ecu tune, etc.). Plus, like with any large project, there is the labor costs and there will be unforeseen costs that will come up. With all of that to consider, $13+k can go by really fast and there is still no guarantee on reliability. It's hard to put a price on reliability as there a many variables to consider.

When people say "Just buy a WRX or STI" sure it is frustrating and annoying and a bit jack***-ish but there is some truth behind it. There is more to it than mathematics but a lot of logistics to consider.
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:50 PM   #10111
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NOPE

There is no building on a 2.5i engine. The only way to get STi power or more out of a NA Subaru is to swap in a different engine. But that's only the engine. There's still the transmission, suspension, drivetrain, and some key interior/exterior features that would need to be changed as well. Sure it may be able to be done for the price but it won't be worth the time and energy spent. And once it's done you better be happy with it want want to keep it. No one is going to want to spend a bunch of money on your creation.

Hmm... $16k with <40k... From a selling point, that's not bad. I recently checked the value on my car and it came up around $17k. Not bad considering I bought it new 2 years ago for $17.5K

Replied! Sorry I took so long.
Damn that's a deal! I thought I got a deal, only paid like $300 more than the invoice though, so its ok.

And don't worry, I got back to ya. Its probably a go, just gotta call pops.
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Old 10-13-2011, 01:31 PM   #10112
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I thought this was the Car Gallery section.
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Old 10-13-2011, 01:47 PM   #10113
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I thought this was the Car Gallery section.
+1 to this!
Kinda older pic but I figured id throw something on here to keep the pics going.


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Old 10-13-2011, 07:18 PM   #10114
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+1 to this!
Kinda older pic but I figured id throw something on here to keep the pics going.


NICE!!

Just debadged the hatch, and plan on getting the CAI (and installed) shortly. Will update pictures once I wash the car!
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Old 10-13-2011, 07:49 PM   #10115
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NICE!!

Just debadged the hatch, and plan on getting the CAI (and installed) shortly. Will update pictures once I wash the car!
Thanks, I love the look of the debadged. I am also getting a 2.5i emblem made so I will update pics after I install it.

Make sure you do your homework on a CAI on our cars. If you look a few pages back most people are doing a "hybrid" intake. Simply just replacing the tubing to the airbox.
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Old 10-13-2011, 07:52 PM   #10116
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Yeah yeah, I saw that, was apart of those pages. I've read up on just about all of it. If the CAI doesn't do the trick or makes the car act up then ill end up getting the 2 45° angle pipes...
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Old 10-13-2011, 07:54 PM   #10117
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Sounds like a plan. Let me know how the cai works out for you. I have been doing the debate for a while between the two.
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Old 10-13-2011, 07:58 PM   #10118
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Yeah will do. I've been debating and seeing what everyone has and what is working...or not. I've seen the Cosmo CAI (which I'm getting) on some late model 2.5s on here and haven't seen anything bad with that on here..we shall see.
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Old 10-13-2011, 09:08 PM   #10119
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Will have the pics of the hybrid intake as well as many other things up tomorrow.

Quick question i have a sick deal lined up on these speakers super cheep off a friend, i'm pretty sure i have read before of other people with 08+ 2.5i/WRX having them in but cannot find a definite answer & would hop on the chance to replace the **** stock system if anyone can help it would be great thanks.

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Old 10-13-2011, 09:53 PM   #10120
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How cheap? I have two sets of those that I got for $30/pair.
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Old 10-13-2011, 10:04 PM   #10121
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he wanted $75 for 4 of them brand new Figured from the reviews on them i couldn't really go wrong and the fact i do not have to pay for shipping etc is pretty great to.

Do you have them installed/ Do you like them? (sounds like your not to fond of them)

Also i assume they will fit considering you have them.
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Old 10-14-2011, 02:35 PM   #10122
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Breaking the 08+ trend here with my crappy cellphone/rainy day/driveway/bedroom window shot! So HA!

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Old 10-14-2011, 03:00 PM   #10123
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Breaking the 08+ trend here with my crappy cellphone/rainy day/driveway/bedroom window shot! So HA!

Personally i like the look of the 06-07's mainly the grille area, but i wanted a less used car:P
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Old 10-14-2011, 06:03 PM   #10124
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Just to set this straight and then I'm done ranting if I'm going to put 13k into it what makes anyone on here assume that it will retain the stock block (this is to you that said there is no building the na block) pretty sure I could find a front clip off an STi for less than that price and still be able to afford some new drive train parts as well. BTW some of the cars on here are absolutely perfect, and if I could get it to work right I'd post pics on here but just look at all the other 08 5- door imprezas on here and throw a set of 01 rs wheels on and there it is.
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Old 10-14-2011, 06:34 PM   #10125
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I really don't understand you. If you have the money, just save your time and lots of hard work and buy a used 2008-2011 STi.. selling it will be a lot easier as well. This is the most logical move you have.
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