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11-12-2013, 09:24 PM | #51 | |
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11-12-2013, 10:39 PM | #52 |
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I'm going to assume that everything below top speed is their initial Consumer Reports reliability ratings.
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11-14-2013, 05:58 PM | #53 |
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11-14-2013, 06:09 PM | #54 |
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That partial cage will make it tough to fit child safety seats in the back.
Other than that, *yawn* |
11-15-2013, 01:38 AM | #55 |
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11-15-2013, 03:22 AM | #56 |
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11-22-2013, 09:17 PM | #57 |
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11-22-2013, 10:30 PM | #58 | |
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11-22-2013, 11:37 PM | #59 |
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11-22-2013, 11:53 PM | #60 | ||
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I think this and the GLA are pretty damn hot, and like the Cayenne vs the AMG, the Porsche gets the upper hand with the adjustable ride height afforded by the air suspension. |
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11-23-2013, 01:58 AM | #61 | |
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11-25-2013, 02:37 PM | #62 |
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Just configured a Macan S with a few options, navigation, full leather, etc and was at $75k. seems a lot for a tarted up Tiguan; An SQ5 seems like a better option if you want luxury and performance on that platform.
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11-25-2013, 09:01 PM | #63 |
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Drive them first. There is a huge difference between the VW and Porsche models. That is certainly the case for the Cayenne and Toureg.
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11-26-2013, 01:11 AM | #64 | |
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The Macan and Cayenne, although not not sports cars, are capable of such amazing things that they certainly aren't just CUV's/SUV's. Despite everything else, they are still very much Porsches. Just look at any review of a Cayenne. |
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11-26-2013, 10:11 AM | #65 |
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Hence the reason I said if you want luxury and performance on this platform that the Audi SQ5 would be a better option/value.
The Macan is a Tiguan with $15k in factory performance modifications and $20k for the Porsche crest. Don't get me wrong I love a lot of Porsche vehicles they are just 2x the price they should be once you add in the options that make them luxurious. This is a rant at German luxury brands in general. Why are heated seats and leather seats options? You are a luxury brand it should be standard, it's standard on an Acura, Infiniti, Lexus, Buick, etc... why do you have to pay extra for push button start and cow hides if you want to buy a German luxury brand. The reason of course is because they can and people will buy them. It's the same with reliability, they have worse statistics than Japanese luxury brands yet people still pay more for them. If you are paying $65k for a luxury car shouldn't it come standard with more than you can option on a Ford? /rant |
11-26-2013, 10:51 AM | #66 |
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Oh I am right there with you man.
I get pissed every single time I look at German car prices, well premium German car prices. I think VW is still affordabe, but not nearly the cache as BMW or Benz. I think the P car crest markup is insane. My good buddy went to buy a Diesel SUV. Looked at the Cayanne Diesel an the M class mercedes. Equally optioned the P car was 35k more than the Benz with worse warranty coverage. It was like 65k vs 100k. Buying the Mercedes is a no brainer in that case. |
11-26-2013, 12:05 PM | #67 | ||
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Tiguan = PQ35 FWD(w4motion aval.) transverse engine platform Q5/SQ5/A&S4/A&S5/Macan = MLB AWD longitudinal engine platform pretty big difference, so lets lay off the Tiguan comparisons |
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Whoops I assumed since the Toureg was to Cayanne that Tiguan was to Macan. Oh well the rest still applies. Thanks for the education nonetheless. |
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No it doesn't. You really need to drive them both. My Cayenne GTS has 420 hp, goes to 60 in 5.4 seconds, has air suspension, and an amazing interior. I don't know of any Toureg that has those features. Don't get me wrong, the Toureg is a nice SUV, but shares little more than the base chassis with the Cayenne.
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12-24-2013, 11:49 AM | #70 |
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12-24-2013, 01:26 PM | #71 |
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This is a whole barrel of meh. Not interested.
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12-24-2013, 05:20 PM | #72 |
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Scrappy, the car doesn't strike me as even remotely something that'd interest you...but look at it in this light: top trim is a 10.73lb:hp sporty CUV. That's every suburban upper-middle class soccermom's dream! I predict it will sell well.
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How to say Macan
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12-24-2013, 06:52 PM | #74 |
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I'm sure it will be an impressive drive like all Porsche products.
And an incredible financial security-killing waste of money for 99% of people who purchase or lease one. |
12-25-2013, 09:13 AM | #75 | |
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Note the complete lack of steering adjustment required in high-speed corners (those tires were complaining rather loudly) and the off-road portions. You don't drive this vehicle, you direct it. |
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