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10-25-2009, 09:50 PM | #76 |
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11-03-2009, 12:10 PM | #77 |
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11-03-2009, 12:11 PM | #78 | |
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Could be great. The local mustang dyno your car would have made MAYBE 160whp stock. MAYBE. What does the dyno you were done on show for a stock car? |
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11-03-2009, 01:49 PM | #79 |
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alright so here is my car and current upgrades. going to get dyno tuned by scott seagal next month at S&R performance in tampa florida. should be around 70 or so out. i believe on there site it says they have DYNOmite Data Acquisition Computer if that is the type of dyno. idk. but here are my current mods
05 wrx 5 speed cobb short ram gimmick turbo inlet blouch evo III big 16g 750cc deatschwerks injectors walbro fp megan dp turbo xs catback hks up precision fmic looking to tune at 20psi 93octane hoping to put down 300whp/300wtq what else do i need to put this down or is this enough also what should my 1/4 mile be. hoping for 12s |
11-05-2009, 03:30 AM | #80 |
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11-06-2009, 02:23 AM | #81 |
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1. HP at the WHEELS (whp) or hp at the CRANK (chp)? I want to make somewhere between 400-500whp. Moneys not a problem so I don't want the typical "oh its going to cost you" type of response.
2. What type of dyno are you going to be shooting for this number on? Not sure, Its going to possibly be at either Agile Auto or IAG (Both members on here in the MAIC forums) 3. If possible, tell us what shop it is. Someone may know how high or low that particular dyno reads. As stated, Agile or IAG 4. Where do you live? If not a well known city, what is the elevation? Maryland 5. What kind of gas will you be using? (octane level) 93 Octane 6. Are you opposed to a FMIC? Getting Stealth FMIC Current Upgrades: TurboXS short ram intake TurboXS turbo back exhaust |
11-06-2009, 12:05 PM | #82 |
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Dont know how their dyno reads, and that isnt a dyno I have heard of, so unfortunately I have no idea, I assume no one else does since no one else replied.
I would say your best option is to give them a call and ask what kinds of setups are laying down that kind of power IN A SUBARU. |
11-06-2009, 12:13 PM | #83 | |
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Not sure how their dyno reads, but 450-500 takes approx the same on *most* dynos. That range doesnt vary as much as when you are looking at 250-400whp. You HAVE TO do a motor. MINIMUM you will need pistons. I highly recommend doing at least a light p&p on the heads as well as mild cams. Since you are in there, it wouldnt be a bad idea to do a set of rods, but at that power level, they arent super necessary. But if you have the money, I woul recommend "doing it right" instead of "just doing what are the bare essentials" You should start off with a 2.5L WRX or STI long block. Because you definitely want the extra 25% displacement, or your setup will be INCREDIBLY laggy. Dont try to hit that power level with a hybrid 2.5block/2.0heads setup. I would do 100mm pistons (have the block machined specifically to your pistons, once you have them send them and the block to the machine shop) rods (your choice) Real P&P on the heads. I like Slowboy for head work. 272 non AVCS cams (you can buy AVCS eliminator cams for AVCS heads) 1000cc deatschwerks injectors (same price as 850s, definitely not overkill) pump (obviously) Other than that, a FMIC and a GT35R will get you where you need to be. You can make 450whp without even trying to break a sweat with that headwork and cams. It will be a very "low stress" situation at 450whp. This is a setup that can knock out over 550whp on meth injection and an aggressive tune. 450whp should come at abour 22psi, which is low, cool and efficient for that turbo. You could get there on a 30R, but it will take a lot more of an agressive tune and more boost, therefor, less safe. Then obviously you need to deal with the driveline, a 6 speed drivetrain swap, including the rear diff would be your best option. Maybe look for a good deal on the entire setup, engine, tranny, driveshaft/diff/axles If you already have a 6 speed or PPGs you are good there. If you are on the R160 rear diff, get rid of it. If you are still on the stock tranny and 2.0L motor, get a good $20,000 pile of cash ready. It will be a STUPID huge upgrade from your current setup though And you never really see bugeyes with setups like this, most start with an STI. Then again, some start with a Forester |
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11-25-2009, 02:40 AM | #84 |
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Shop is HBspeed 91 octane OC CAlifornia mods are AP stage 1, K&N drop in filter Last edited by SoCal_Scooby; 11-25-2009 at 12:26 PM. |
11-25-2009, 03:27 AM | #85 |
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1. HP at the WHEELS (whp) or hp at the CRANK (chp)? 300-320 whp 2. What type of dyno are you going to be shooting for this number on? I have no clue 3. If possible, tell us what shop it is. Someone may know how high or low that particular dyno reads. HB Speed 4. Where do you live? If not a well known city, what is the elevation? Manhattan Beach, CA aka sea level 5. What kind of gas will you be using? (octane level) Craptastic California 91 Octane 6. Are you opposed to a FMIC? Eh... I'm not really quite sure on that one, I'd prefer to stay TMIC, but if it's really going to help... ------------------------------------ Also atm my car is bone stock aside from a short shifter and a Cobb CBE, currently waiting on my Perrin two-piece downpipe (catted) after which I'll be taking it to get its Stage II tune. Essentially I'd like to know what else I should look at doing after my Stage II to get to 300-320 (which is what I hear the limits of the VF52 is) |
01-09-2010, 10:58 PM | #86 |
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1. HP at the WHEELS (whp) or hp at the CRANK (chp)?
375 whp 2. What type of dyno are you going to be shooting for this number on? mustang 3. If possible, tell us what shop it is. Someone may know how high or low that particular dyno reads. kito auto sports seattle, wa 4. Where do you live? If not a well known city, what is the elevation? seattle, wa - sea level 5. What kind of gas will you be using? (octane level) 92 6. Are you opposed to a FMIC nope, looking to get a aps dr525 current mods are; HTA68 Turbo Cobb TBE APS cold air intake Perrin light weight crank pulley TGV Deletes CX Racing tmic 820cc injectors walbro fuel pump last tuning results were 285whp and 305tq I'm about to do get a aps dr525 fmic and tial 44mm external wastegate. Any opinions on this set up? what i could do differently? or where to go next? thanks!!! |
01-10-2010, 01:14 AM | #87 | |
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You will be lucky to break 330whp realistically on that turbo and 92 octane. If you want 375 whp on pump gas, you're going to need a 3076 or DomIII at minimum |
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01-10-2010, 01:35 AM | #88 |
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Yeah Im thinking that'll get me up to the 320whp range, I'm sure I'll have to go to a different turbo to get to mid 300's. What about headers? I'm looking at the aps equal length headers, any thoughts or suggestions??
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01-10-2010, 02:13 AM | #89 |
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1. HP at the WHEELS (whp) or hp at the CRANK (chp)?
300 whp 2. What type of dyno are you going to be shooting for this number on? LPS 3000 3. If possible, tell us what shop it is. Someone may know how high or low that particular dyno reads. (private owned) 4. Where do you live? If not a well known city, what is the elevation? Northern Cali and Phx AZ 5. What kind of gas will you be using? (octane level) 91oct most the time 6. Are you opposed to a FMIC I have a aps dr525 current mods are; ATP gt3076R Turbo ewg hotside Tial 44mm wg Custom hks downpipe (catless) JIC Ti catback APS 70mm cold air intake APS turbo inlet APS 50/50 bov APS dr525 fmic Cosworth intake Cosworth oil pump Moroso oil pan and pick up Engine cases spec'd and polished insides ARP head studs ARP case bolts ARP rod bolts Cosmetic oem thickness head gaskets CP pistons (100mm) Cosworth rods Everything balenced OEM STi crank mico polished and cleaned up ACL bearings Cosworth cams ported and cleaned up heads 1mm over supertech valves supertech springs and retainers, buckets TGV Deletes 8mm pholic spacers Perrin V1 fuel rail Detwk 740's Walbro fuel pump Samco hoses mishmoto radiator ported oem exhaust manifolds and oem catless uppipe Not been dynoed yet, putting motor togther now Any ideas? what it might make? Oh and I'm running a 6spd now with cusco f/r lsd's Will be tuned this time with an AP, I ____ canned the ecutek crap |
01-11-2010, 10:12 AM | #90 | |
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That turbo is just flat out a poor match for the STI motor in general. At any power level, its choking the motor off badly. Between the 7cm hot side and the small compressor housing, it just cant flow enough for the 2.5L motor to work efficiently. The APS headers are nice, but unfortunately I have heard a lot of reports of cracking problems with them. |
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01-11-2010, 10:33 AM | #91 | |
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01-11-2010, 11:17 AM | #92 |
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Another thing that the first post should include is the type of tires. Snow tires will read lower than summer performance tires. On a Dyno Dynamics, a tuner here in Colorado found that it was about a 10whp-25whp difference between snow and summer tires.
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01-11-2010, 07:44 PM | #93 |
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01-11-2010, 11:58 PM | #94 | |
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01-28-2010, 04:12 PM | #95 |
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1. HP at the WHEELS (whp) or hp at the CRANK (chp)?
Looking for around 300whp. 2. What type of dyno are you going to be shooting for this number on? Not sure what type Precision Tuning uses. 3. If possible, tell us what shop it is. Someone may know how high or low that particular dyno reads. Precision Tuning down south Jersey. 4. Where do you live? If not a well known city, what is the elevation? North Jersey unsure. 5. What kind of gas will you be using? (octane level) 93 6. Are you opposed to a FMIC? unnecessary i think for what i wanna gain 06 wrx- blouch 16g/turoxsTMIC/DW 750s/walbro pump/hks intake/invidia catless DP/hks exhaust/cobb apv2... this thread was great tho learned some good stuff...any opinions on the setup im planning on going with?? |
01-31-2010, 08:16 PM | #96 | |
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01-31-2010, 08:31 PM | #97 |
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02-01-2010, 01:45 PM | #98 |
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1. HP at the WHEELS (whp) or hp at the CRANK (chp)? Looking for a conservative 320-340 crank for DD. 2. What type of dyno are you going to be shooting for this number on? Dynojet 248C 3. If possible, tell us what shop it is. Someone may know how high or low that particular dyno reads. Quintin Brothers is the nearest dyno shop. (Vermont Sports Car doesn't really do public work, unfortunately) 4. Where do you live? If not a well known city, what is the elevation? Burlington Vermont, not much over sea level. 5. What kind of gas will you be using? (octane level) Always 93 octane 6. Are you opposed to a FMIC? (this way we dont recommend one if you dont want it, or we DO recommend it if you DO want it and it would be beneficial to your setup/goals) (sp?) Not opposed, but probably not worth it yet. |
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A downpipe and a professional tune will put you WELL over 320-340 at the crank. |
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