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Old 11-16-2004, 02:47 PM   #1
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Default What's the next-gen IT job to have?

I'm currently a network engineer, doing stuff like MS 2003, AD, exchange, Extreme Networks switching, etc. No programming skills, or things of that nature (unless you count vbscript).

I'm wondering what people think is the next big thing to get into? I have looked on job sites and it seems a lot of need is there for SAP, PeopleSoft, ERP, and some Cisco stuff.

So what do you think is the big thing to move into, based on pay, demand, saturation of people with these skills, etc.?



(In case you wanted my opinion, I was leaning towards ERP/SAP type positions, as well as something like Security/Auditing)
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Old 11-16-2004, 02:53 PM   #2
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Old 11-16-2004, 03:05 PM   #3
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ERP/SAP/Peoplesoft are the big thing right now and have been the past 5 years. Security has obviously been a big push the past couple years, but the field is fairly limited. Most small, mid-sized companies don't high security admins and larger companies may only employ one person in that area.
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Old 11-16-2004, 03:11 PM   #4
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Business Intelligence, Data Warehousing, ERP, Supply Chain. Make sure you are ballanced between the business and technical side of things. Most of the purely technical work will be offshored. But, roles that involve user interaction will stay here mostly. You need to be able to see the business side of things to keep up in the near future IMO.
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Old 11-16-2004, 03:18 PM   #5
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ERP/SAP/Peoplesoft are the big thing right now and have been the past 5 years. Security has obviously been a big push the past couple years, but the field is fairly limited. Most small, mid-sized companies don't high security admins and larger companies may only employ one person in that area.
true... a lot of companies outsource (not to India) to external vendors to handle a lot of their security... we do a lot of that here and we have several thousand employees...

data warehousing/business intelligence (which is falls in the PeopleSoft/SAP area too)/web services/SOA

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Business Intelligence, Data Warehousing, ERP, Supply Chain. Make sure you are ballanced between the business and technical side of things. Most of the purely technical work will be offshored. But, roles that involve user interaction will stay here mostly. You need to be able to see the business side of things to keep up in the near future IMO.
true... you can find almost anyone to code according to specs... but not everybody is capable of the analysis to create the specs... you have to be more than a one trick pony and be unafraid of change.
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Old 11-16-2004, 03:21 PM   #6
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Old 11-16-2004, 03:29 PM   #7
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Question about PeopleSoft/SAP:

Are the core skills behind each of these types of ERP pretty much the same? I mean, what if PeopleSoft goes belly up (I know I know)? Will the skillsets in PeopleSoft carry over to SAP?

What type of ERP jobs are there like you describe above where you deal on the analysis/customer interaction side, more than the programming/coding side?
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Old 11-16-2004, 03:34 PM   #8
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With any ERP or CRM system, you are going to need a good SQL background. Otherwise, I think the technicals skills for managing SAP/Peoplesoft/Oracle/IBM are all different.

Sure you have the business analyst who usually works on these projects to determine process flows and such, but those posisitions are going to be few and far between.
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Old 11-16-2004, 03:36 PM   #9
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(In case you wanted my opinion, I was leaning towards ERP/SAP type positions, as well as something like Security/Auditing)
ERP is old hat now. SAP programmers are relatively commonplace. So is security as time goes by.

If you want to survive, stop trying to pidgeon-hole yourself by specializing. Find a skill that's applicable across platforms - or up the corporate ladder.
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Old 11-16-2004, 03:59 PM   #11
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Speaking Hindu would be a good way to go as well as being able to relocate to India or whatever 3rd world country is next.
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Old 11-16-2004, 04:00 PM   #12
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InfoSec, UNIX, Centralized Processing with thin clients (dumb terminals), Data Storage (aka. NAS),

and the biggest is

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Old 11-16-2004, 04:02 PM   #13
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Question about PeopleSoft/SAP:

Are the core skills behind each of these types of ERP pretty much the same? I mean, what if PeopleSoft goes belly up (I know I know)? Will the skillsets in PeopleSoft carry over to SAP?

What type of ERP jobs are there like you describe above where you deal on the analysis/customer interaction side, more than the programming/coding side?
What beethoven said is right on, regarding a solid SQL being the backbone of these sytems. The business and process knowledge is what will enable you to float from one system to the next in case it goes belly up, or is bought by Oracle, etc
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Old 11-16-2004, 04:02 PM   #14
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Old 11-16-2004, 04:11 PM   #15
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and the biggest is
VoIP
I second this one. Soon long distance charges will be a thing of the past. In the next 10 years I can see all phones corp or residental being over IP.

beethoven,
I work in a fairly large company and we have a team of security guys bugging me every dam day.
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Old 11-16-2004, 04:11 PM   #16
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Actually, you'd be better served in Bangalore by learning English and Kannada.
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UNIX, Centralized Processing with thin clients (dumb terminals)

and the biggest is

VoIP

actually it is distributed with thin clients that is big... and thin client does not = dumb terminal... it is more commonly used to describe the UI existing on the application server as opposed to the desktop.


VOIP does look like a big thing.
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With any ERP or CRM system, you are going to need a good SQL background.
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somebody already beat me to it, but VoIP in general will show it's presence even more as time goes by.
infosec/network security in a close 2nd
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Blah....we've switched to a full VOIP system this year (Cisco) and it's nothing major. Honestly, the software is easier to use than any other PBX I've used before, and most people already know the networking end of it.

Sure this will be a big technology over the next 5 years, but it certainly doesn't take a brain surgeon to understand. I doubt it'll mean big $$$ for any of us in the IT field.
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I call BS on this.
I do too... just because it seems to change from the POV of the SO to the employee and back a few times... sounds more like an ex-employee with an axe to grind.
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Blah....we've switched to a full VOIP system this year (Cisco) and it's nothing major. Honestly, the software is easier to use than any other PBX I've used before, and most people already know the networking end of it.

Sure this will be a big technology over the next 5 years, but it certainly doesn't take a brain surgeon to understand. I doubt it'll mean big $$$ for any of us in the IT field.

i agree with that too... i fail to see where it means money in the IT pocket either.
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