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View Poll Results: Who will win the next-gen console warZ?
Xbox 360. 51 32.69%
Playstation 3. 68 43.59%
They'll swap places back and forth, neither dominating the market. 17 10.90%
Both companies will end up in the red from the ensuing war. 8 5.13%
Revolution FOR THE WIN! 12 7.69%
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:13 PM   #1
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Default Who's going to win the next-gen console war? (Xbox 360 vs. PS3)

Well, the ball is in Microsoft's court and will remain there for awhile yet. They put a hurting on Sony by getting their hardware to market so quickly. And Sony's marketshare will only continue to slowly slip away from them until they can get the PS3 out the door. Can Sony have a strong enough launch to counter the damage that it's already sustaining? Can Microsoft produce a console-defining "must-have" game before the PS3 gets launched? How will the price wars affect sales?


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Old 04-07-2006, 03:14 PM   #2
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:16 PM   #3
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They will both do just fine. Sony is unbelievably huge in other parts of the world (Read anywhere else other than N. America). And Msoft has their "other" divisions to keep Xbox going.
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:16 PM   #4
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since I bought the 360 already I will not be first in line to get a PS3 but I'm sure one will find it's way into my home eventually...
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:17 PM   #5
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Uhm.. are you serious?

The XBOX 360, although a fun machine, is pretty worthless. The graphics were not nearly as hyped as Microsoft claimed. People are incredibly dissapointed with the system. Sales have been dwindling. People have had problems with tech support and overheating issues. Their game titles are going down the drain. No one really cares anymore, and the market for XBOX 360 has shown it.

If PS3 makes a big splash in the game graphics department (REAL next-gen graphics, not minor upgraded ones such as the XBOX), then PS3 will rule with the XBOX 360 going the way of the Dreamcast.

XBOX released their stuff way too soon.

Not to mention more people own a PS2 than they do XBOX. There are far more die-hard loyalists to Sony and their Playstation line. They will continue to rule the game market.

I honsetly prefer Xbox over PS2 because of only two things:
-Better controllers
-Harddrive.

XBOX 360 is a complete let-down in my opinion. This is coming from a guy who never really saw the intrigue with the Playstation. Microsoft effed up bad in my opinion, and they know it.

PS3 will top the market yet again when it's released.
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:19 PM   #6
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Uhm.. are you serious?

The XBOX 360, although a fun machine, is pretty worthless. The graphics were not nearly as hyped as Microsoft claimed. Their game titles are going down the drain. No one really cares anymore.

If PS3 makes a big splash in the game graphics department (REAL next-gen graphics, not minor upgraded ones such as the XBOX), then PS3 will rule with the XBOX 360 going the way of the Dreamcast.

XBOX released their stuff way too soon.

Not to mention more people own a PS2 than they do XBOX. There are far more die-hard loyalists to Sony and their Playstation line. They will continue to rule the game market.

I honsetly prefer Xbox over PS2 because of only two things:
-Better controllers
-Harddrive.

XBOX 360 is a complete let-down in my opinion. This is coming from a guy who never really saw the intrigue with the Playstation. Microsoft effed up bad in my opinion, and they know it.

PS3 will top the market yet again when it's released.
Bitch are you retarded the ****ing system just came out and you are saying the graphics suck... Remember how cutting edge final fantasy 7 looked?? Go play it again.
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Uhm.. are you serious?

Are you? There have been few louder supporters of Sony and the Playstation around here than me, and even I can't predict what might happen. Don't be so sure of yourself.

Yes, it's true that the 360 lineup was weaker than predicted... a whole bunch of PC games, buggy ports, and once-over titles. However, to the uninformed masses, especially non-PC users, those titles are considered to be very good. (read: simple eyecandy).

Nothing is clear-cut in my eyes.
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:23 PM   #8
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:24 PM   #9
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Bitch are you retarded the ****ing system just came out and you are saying the graphics suck... Remember how cutting edge final fantasy 7 looked?? Go play it again.
And have you compared the graphics between the XBOX and the XBOX 360? It's a pathetic increase. Barely noticeable. Microsoft hyped their next-gen "life-like realistic" graphics since it's development. And they didn't follow through.

Bitch, are YOU retarded?

I'm not even a huge console fan, but I think its pretty obvious where XBOX 360 will go unless they release some pretty amazing must-have games.
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:26 PM   #10
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I think Sony will win the War because they always do... they have the largest fanboi base so I think they will sell over 50% of the next gen consoles...

However I do think M$ will take a larger chunk out of the market than they did with the original Xbox. So therefore since M$ is gaining ground I say MS will win the battle!

In response to Crikey:
Grafics on the 360 are far better than the original xbox, not to mention grafics only get better the longer the system is out and in the devs hands. The launch titles came no-where near using the capacity of the 360 and neither will the PS3 launch titles. Games only get better once the devs learn what they can do and how to do it.

MS released the 360 right on time. PS3 will be a year behind and have to make ground. I'm not going to say MS didn't maybe rush the system but they released when they needed to right before X-mas. True they got a bad wrap with shortages and some units overheating, but to my knowledge they replaced ever overheating unit and the low stock hype only helps the marketing maching.

Crikey, do you own an HDTV? becaues on my HDTV grafics from xbox to 360 are night and day difference... even Halo 2 running on the 360 looks way better than on the xbox

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Old 04-07-2006, 03:27 PM   #11
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I'd just like to state right now for the record... HolyCrikey is NOT with me.
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:29 PM   #12
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OK what about Fight Night 3... Oblivion.. GRAW..

http://xboxmovies.teamxbox.com/xbox-...hounds-Trailer

Take a look at that trailer.. And dont post ps3 anything because none of them are actual in game
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Crikey... look at the King Kong samples from Xbox and 360:


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OK what about Fight Night 3... Oblivion.. GRAW..
FN3 - Never a big fan of the series. Regardless, it was released on PS2 and will be on PS3 later this year. Definately not the 'killer app' for me.

Oblivion - Been playing it every night the way it was meant to be played. With a keyboard and mouse on my PC. Outstanding game, but I don't need a 360 to play it.

GRAW - Played some of the RB6/GR games on PC. A middle-of-the-road series, IMO. Nothing to convince me to buy a 360. ESPECIALLY considering that FPS games are best played (you guessed it) on a PC.


Where are the amazing exclusive titles? There are none... atleast not yet. And quite frankly... if Halo 3 is all Microsoft has up their sleeve, I probably won't be buying an Xbox 360. I challenge you, Microsoft. Impress me.
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Yes, and look at the King Kong differences. Look at the Madden 06 differences. Minimal. Completely minimal to what Microsoft played at.

I have no doubt that it's a jump, but it's nothing near to next-gen as Microsoft promised. I just find it to be a lacking system.

That said, I still believe PS3 will make a bigger splash as they always have in the past.
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Yes, and look at the King Kong differences. Look at the Madden 06 differences. Minimal. Completely minimal to what Microsoft played at.

I have no doubt that it's a jump, but it's nothing near to next-gen as Microsoft promised. I just find it to be a lacking system.

That said, I still believe PS3 will make a bigger splash as they always have in the past.

umm

how about the true HDTV resolution for every game?

which in itself, is pretty decent considering that 99% of xbox games and ps2 games are 480i...

all xbox360 games are required to be 720p compatible.

the fact that xbox 360 can run oblivion and have it look good is indicative of its power.
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Just because the Madden devs were lazy is not MS's fault... they wanted to rush a launch game.

GRAW is one of the best games I have seen launched yet grafics wise (have not seen Oblivion)... also Fight Night is great in the grafics department

I concur that PS3 will make a bigger splash, I just think you are writing off MS to soon. You think PS3 launch titles will be the best looking grafics to date, highly doubt it. I'm not saying the PS3 will not be powerful, just that launch titles never use 100% of a console's resources. Therefore, since MS has a year head start, we should start seeing better and better games by the time PS3 is released.

All I gotta say is I cannot wait for Halo 3...
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the whole console market will crash, leaving them both in the red
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How is the console market gonna crash?
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How is the console market gonna crash?
because people would obviously spend $300+ dollars on their PC every time a new game comes out... or just to beat their friends benchmarks. 1337 bitch!
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because people would obviously spend $300+ dollars on their PC every time a new game comes out... or just to beat their friends benchmarks. 1337 bitch!
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the fact that xbox 360 can run oblivion and have it look good is indicative of its power.

Oh, I never questioned the power of the 360. I do, however, question their game library. I would gladly sit here and admit defeat so to speak if there was 1 or 2 really great must-have titles out there for the Xbox 360.

To be honest, I don't own an Xbox to this day because (in my opinion) there was no such game on the original console. The Xbox is about the only game console I haven't owned.

And don't tell me about Halo. I've played it. FPS gaming on a console is akin to scratching a poison ivy rash with a rolling pin. Even the PC port of Halo is mediocre at best.

Forza almost did it for me in the end. I reaaaally almost bought an Xbox. However, there were 2 factors that prevented me from getting it. 1. It was at the end of it's lifecycle. 2. GT4 was already out there.
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Oh, I never questioned the power of the 360. I do, however, question their game library. I would glady sit here and admit defeat so to speak if there was 1 or 2 really great must-have titles out there for the Xbox 360.

To be honest, I don't own an Xbox to this day because (in my opinion) there was no such game on the original console. The Xbox is about the only game console I haven't owned.

And don't tell me about Halo. I've played it. FPS gaming on a console is akin to scratching a poison ivy rash with a rolling pin. Even the PC port of Halo is mediocre at best.

Forza almost did it for me in the end. I reaaaally almost bought an Xbox. However, there were 2 factors that prevented me from getting it. 1. It was at the end of it's lifecycle. 2. GT4 was already out there.

i am a hardcore pc gamer (mostly FPS's too, mind you)....and i LOVE halo and halo 2. the pc port of halo was a pile of isht compared to it on the xbox. not even a comparison.

the controls are perfect, so are the dynamics of the game. and you're missing on out forza
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Crikey,
You must be basing comparisons on a few of the very poor port titles at launch. There are title out now that current gen system could never come anywhere close to playing. Its common to say that Oblivion looks as good or better on a 360 than it does on a high end PC.

As far as who will win... I dont really know. I suspect that Microsoft will gain marketshare from sony this time around. The ps3 will be too expensive, in too little supply and late. Indications seem to be that the ps3 in only marginally more powerful than the 360 in graphics power. (I work as a game dev btw.) Sony will probably do very well for itself, but the 360 will outnumber it untill at least christmas '07 if not longer.
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