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01-17-2017, 03:20 PM | #3801 | |
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You either pay upfront (less discounts) or pay later (more discounts but lower resale). Doesn't matter to me too much though as, in general, I keep cars for a while.
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01-17-2017, 04:12 PM | #3802 | |
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I take my R to a non-VW dealer shop for maintenance (they work on only Audi, VW, Porsche) and have had two people offer to buy my car when I am ready to sell it. I think people here get the R due to the snow and I see a lot more VW's in New England than I did in the midwest. |
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01-17-2017, 04:28 PM | #3803 |
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Thats true, thats why all the american brands get killed on trades. 10k off new kills resale.
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01-17-2017, 05:35 PM | #3804 |
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I bought a truck for a 1'er. Turned around and sold it for a 2'er.
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01-18-2017, 07:55 AM | #3805 |
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Vehicle:2016 GTI & CRV |
Hmm...maybe. When I ditched my 2.5i back in 2014, I didn't get that great return everyone talks about; but that being said...the value of my GTI after 6 months of having it is pretty low. Then again, I would much have a car that's enjoyable than a base level Subaru again. Even, with the heavy downpours we've been getting around Houston since last weekend, I'm still not running to drive a Subaru. The GTI gets the job done.
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01-18-2017, 08:48 AM | #3806 | |
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I got a flyer in the mail from some company wanting my ST a few months ago and they were going to offer me "an amazing" $9500. So from September '13 to November '16 the car went from $30K to $9.5K. That blows mind! |
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01-18-2017, 09:01 AM | #3807 | |
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01-18-2017, 09:39 AM | #3808 | |
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I'm not trying to be argumentative, just showing that there are often depreciation curves that don't make sense, especially when talking about trade-in value. It looks like you could've driven the Focus for another year with very little depreciation. |
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01-18-2017, 03:12 PM | #3809 | |
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Subaru doesn't get in the picture until 18. Canadians are used to winter weather so we don't feel the need for AWD nearly as much as we have more confidence in our winter driving skills. When I hear Americans here state that "AWD is a must have" that's kind of a weird thing to hear from a Canadian point of view seeing how most people up here roll in FWD cars. Also we have less disposable income so we tend to seek better value. Last edited by heavyD; 01-18-2017 at 03:21 PM. |
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01-18-2017, 03:13 PM | #3810 | |
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I've only traded in one car. 2006 Mazda5 It had 80,000+ miles and some brake line issues that the dealer couldn't fix properly. Knowing I was going to take a bath on it anyways, the VW dealer gave me $4,000 for it in 2011 towards a new Golf TDI...which VW is now going to give me $18,638 for it with 95,000+ miles. |
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01-18-2017, 08:08 PM | #3811 | |
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Yeah, about that, I had a 2013 Focus ST with the ST2 package (recaros, nav, moonroof,). It was in excellent condition. And had 30k miles. I was including a set of almost new Nokian Hakka snow tires. It took forever to sell private party and I was lucky to get 15k. |
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01-19-2017, 12:33 AM | #3812 |
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Vehicle:2003 BMW M3 Jet Black |
Well, yeah... it's a Ford that's not a special edition model (GT350, FoRS, GT).
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01-19-2017, 09:23 AM | #3813 | |
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01-19-2017, 10:21 AM | #3814 | |
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And on the subaru value, Outbacks and WRX/STI hold great value. Everything else is good, but not like you get with the ones I mentioned. |
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02-14-2017, 02:54 PM | #3815 | |
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02-14-2017, 03:16 PM | #3816 |
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I'm curious on what kind of profit margin VW has with the R and what dealers make when they sell at MSRP. $40k just seems like a fat wad of money to throw down on a decently quick VW w/ AWD. Call me crazy, but i'd rather pick up a used S4 or M2 for that type of coin.
The other issue that I have is that I could not use this car as a daily driver and would have to be a second car. Again, at that cost point and for a second fun car, I have other cars much higher up on the list. I do think the GTI is one hell of a bargain though, especially if you don't mind waiting a year and picking a CPO / used one. My MKVI was the best damn car that i've owned. |
02-14-2017, 03:56 PM | #3817 |
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You can't buy an used M2 for $50k, let alone $40k. EAG lists theirs for around $60-65k so I assume private party goes for about $52-56k.
Why wouldn't you use a Golf R as a DD? It's a compromise car that's designed to do exactly that... |
02-14-2017, 03:56 PM | #3818 |
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If they could get the manual in the 30-33 range they'd steal lots of wrx sales. Heck, it's still tempting at the 35 mark.
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02-14-2017, 04:06 PM | #3819 |
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02-14-2017, 04:30 PM | #3820 |
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02-14-2017, 05:00 PM | #3821 |
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I do not see why not. They are more crammed with technology than the muscle cars. RWD and a V8 are extremely cheap to make. They have been doing it for decades. I would probably say the pony cars are extremely overpriced. Not the hot hatches.
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02-14-2017, 05:29 PM | #3822 |
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02-14-2017, 06:06 PM | #3823 |
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Interesting that they had a base trim at ~35k, then dropped it for only a loaded ~40k version but now dealers are having to deal now.
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02-14-2017, 09:43 PM | #3824 |
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I think a lot of people who hate on a $40k Golf are missing the point.
Tell me another car under $40k that fulfills the following requirements: -AWD -I can put my 80lb labrador in it -Wife can drive it because it's auto but it's DSG so it's not a crap cvt, ect -Sporty/quick/fun to drive/ect Bonuses: -Fast as balls with down pipe and stage 2 tune -Decent exterior aesthetics and a well finished interior -By far my favorite thing is it's reserved. It's not flashy like an M car, evo, sti, mustang, ect. |
02-14-2017, 11:11 PM | #3825 | |
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THIS is why I have one. Stick though, wife does not mind shifting.
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