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Old 10-20-2018, 12:03 AM   #3476
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So got my engine last week, I have a new head gasket set and new head studs on their way, but I need help, I can't find a timing chain kit(chain, guides, water pump, tensioner, idler pulleys), anyone know where I can find one?

Once I've got that all I'll have left, thats missing, is a Haltech, and exhaust header/manifold. I'll have to measure for a propshaft and C/Vs when I have the engine and tranny in. Since I'm not boosting yet, I'm going to use the rear diff thats already in the car, for now. Oh, and I still need a clutch kit, but I've got a few weeks before I need to buy that. Still aiming for mid December install date.
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So got my engine last week, I have a new head gasket set and new head studs on their way, but I need help, I can't find a timing chain kit(chain, guides, water pump, tensioner, idler pulleys), anyone know where I can find one?
I'm not aware of a timing chain "kit". Your best bet may be to just contact your dealer service department and see if they've developed a standard parts list.

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I'll have to measure for a propshaft and C/Vs when I have the engine and tranny in.
Is there something that prevents you from using a stock driveshaft?
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Old 10-21-2018, 01:21 PM   #3478
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I'm not aware of a timing chain "kit". Your best bet may be to just contact your dealer service department and see if they've developed a standard parts list.


Is there something that prevents you from using a stock driveshaft?
Well it's a different engine with a different tranny that was never installed in the Impreza, I assume it's going to be a different length, but I'm cheap so if I dont HAVE to replace the propshaft and C/Vs I won't. If they fit though I'll be pretty happy.
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Old 10-21-2018, 05:21 PM   #3479
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Old 10-22-2018, 12:19 AM   #3480
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Well it's a different engine with a different tranny that was never installed in the Impreza, I assume it's going to be a different length, but I'm cheap so if I dont HAVE to replace the propshaft and C/Vs I won't. If they fit though I'll be pretty happy.
The engine doesn't affect the driveshaft, so no worries there. What transmission are you using?
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Old 10-22-2018, 12:25 AM   #3481
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Any interest in h6 into impreza parts? I'm debating making a few things and signing up as a vendor

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Old 10-22-2018, 01:12 AM   #3482
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The engine doesn't affect the driveshaft, so no worries there. What transmission are you using?
I got a JDM Spec B motor and 6spd trans, supposedly, to be honest I don't think I could tell if it is or isnt a spec b motor/trans or not. But the listing for the "spec b" combo was the same price as the ones that didn't say spec b so I took it. Since both engine and trans were changing I figured it might reduce the length of the shaft, but I have no idea until it's mounted, if I dont have to have a new one made thats one less thing to buy for this swap. I have a 2.5 SOHC with a 5spd in now, here's to hoping things go as planned(don't worry, I already know they won't)

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I need both headers and H6 to Impreza mounts... how much and how long is your lead time, or are they something you can ship around the time of ordering. Even if you don't sign up as a vendor, if you'll take PayPal, I'll give you a shot on a person to person sale.
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Old 10-22-2018, 10:11 AM   #3483
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I got a JDM Spec B motor and 6spd trans, supposedly, to be honest I don't think I could tell if it is or isnt a spec b motor/trans or not. But the listing for the "spec b" combo was the same price as the ones that didn't say spec b so I took it. Since both engine and trans were changing I figured it might reduce the length of the shaft, but I have no idea until it's mounted, if I dont have to have a new one made thats one less thing to buy for this swap. I have a 2.5 SOHC with a 5spd in now, here's to hoping things go as planned(don't worry, I already know they won't)



I need both headers and H6 to Impreza mounts... how much and how long is your lead time, or are they something you can ship around the time of ordering. Even if you don't sign up as a vendor, if you'll take PayPal, I'll give you a shot on a person to person sale.

Headers I have not begun development on. They also not bolt to a standard catback. You would have to have a mid pipe fabricated. They would basically just be something to get you started and getting one of the hardest parts done.

I'm a one man shop that does this in the side for fun. I work a full time position. I'm testing the waters to see if this stuff holds interest. Nothing is made yet and I havent begun r and d yet. Custom headers would be a lot of money. For one person it's not worth building a jig. So if I dont see interest I will only be building custom sets and the price will be high. I cant make them cheap like obx
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Old 10-22-2018, 10:57 AM   #3484
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Headers I have not begun development on. They also not bolt to a standard catback. You would have to have a mid pipe fabricated. They would basically just be something to get you started and getting one of the hardest parts done.

I'm a one man shop that does this in the side for fun. I work a full time position. I'm testing the waters to see if this stuff holds interest. Nothing is made yet and I havent begun r and d yet. Custom headers would be a lot of money. For one person it's not worth building a jig. So if I dont see interest I will only be building custom sets and the price will be high. I cant make them cheap like obx
Hell getting just the flange that bolts to the head would be good enough for me, I actually have access to a pipe bender and welder to do the exhaust work myself, however, the state I live in prohibits the sale of used exhaust parts, so I cant even buy just the flanges off of a junkyard car, even if I could find one in the local junkyards.
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Old 10-22-2018, 09:01 PM   #3485
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Feeling a bit noobish right now... the engine and trans wont separate. I've gotten them as far as about 25cm(1inch) apart, but when I let the tension go the trans pulled itself back to the engine. Am I missing something stupid?
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Old 10-22-2018, 09:43 PM   #3486
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Feeling a bit noobish right now... the engine and trans wont separate. I've gotten them as far as about 25cm(1inch) apart, but when I let the tension go the trans pulled itself back to the engine. Am I missing something stupid?

manual? auto? what trans?
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Old 10-22-2018, 09:44 PM   #3487
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Hell getting just the flange that bolts to the head would be good enough for me, I actually have access to a pipe bender and welder to do the exhaust work myself, however, the state I live in prohibits the sale of used exhaust parts, so I cant even buy just the flanges off of a junkyard car, even if I could find one in the local junkyards.
I will be working on stainless exhaust flanges. Otherwise i have a set of oem manifolds that will be for sale after i use them for scanning.
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Old 10-22-2018, 10:02 PM   #3488
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manual? auto? what trans?
I got it, it was something noobish, first transmission I've worked on that the clutch release fork has to be "freed" before you can split the engine and trans. Took all of five seconds to look up in the FSM. See noobish lmfao. It's a 6MT.
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Old 10-23-2018, 08:28 AM   #3489
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I got a JDM Spec B motor and 6spd trans, supposedly, to be honest I don't think I could tell if it is or isnt a spec b motor/trans or not. But the listing for the "spec b" combo was the same price as the ones that didn't say spec b so I took it. Since both engine and trans were changing I figured it might reduce the length of the shaft, but I have no idea until it's mounted, if I dont have to have a new one made thats one less thing to buy for this swap. I have a 2.5 SOHC with a 5spd in now, here's to hoping things go as planned(don't worry, I already know they won't)
Once again, the engine has ZERO to do with the length of the driveshaft! Think about it - it's a Subaru, with Subaru's AWD setup. The transmission has to sit in the same position, because the front axles coming out of the front diff have to line up with the front hubs properly. So the only variable is the length of the transmission. Yes, the 6MT is longer than the 5MT, but that's not news. There are plenty of 6MT swaps out there, you're not doing anything that hasn't already been done. Get a driveshaft from a 4EAT Impreza, like everyone else does, and you're good to go.


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Hell getting just the flange that bolts to the head would be good enough for me
https://www.racemufflers.com/default.asp.


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...the state I live in prohibits the sale of used exhaust parts, so I cant even buy just the flanges off of a junkyard car, even if I could find one in the local junkyards.
I find that hard to believe. In most states it's illegal to sell used catalytic converters, but I've never heard of that being applied to the entire exhaust.
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Old 10-23-2018, 11:53 AM   #3490
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I got a JDM Spec B motor and 6spd trans, supposedly, to be honest I don't think I could tell if it is or isnt a spec b motor/trans or not. But the listing for the "spec b" combo was the same price as the ones that didn't say spec b so I took it.
6-spd does require a shorter driveshaft. CV's can stay the same.

You can find tons on this in the drivetrain section.

You can use the 4EAT propshaft as it's the same length as the 6-spd, or a 6-spd shaft. The big difference will be the diff flange beetween the two; R160 and R180 respectively.
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Old 10-23-2018, 06:08 PM   #3491
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Greetings- I have been following this thread for years as I have been building my kit car, using a 2006 EZ30(R). I check it occasionally, and I am at the last steps of registration of my build so I thought I would introduce myself and possibly "give back" some help if I can. Thanks to all who have posted!

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Old 10-23-2018, 07:18 PM   #3492
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Once again, the engine has ZERO to do with the length of the driveshaft! Think about it - it's a Subaru, with Subaru's AWD setup. The transmission has to sit in the same position, because the front axles coming out of the front diff have to line up with the front hubs properly. So the only variable is the length of the transmission. Yes, the 6MT is longer than the 5MT, but that's not news. There are plenty of 6MT swaps out there, you're not doing anything that hasn't already been done. Get a driveshaft from a 4EAT Impreza, like everyone else does, and you're good to go.
Will this one do? Will I need to find the mating end for 6spd or will that shaft just slide in?

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I find that hard to believe. In most states it's illegal to sell used catalytic converters, but I've never heard of that being applied to the entire exhaust.
I will find the exact wording of the law and reexamine it, but when I had tried in the past they just said they wouldn't sell me any part of the exhaust. It may have been the policies of the yards I went to, and it may also just be that way because expecting people to know the difference between what they can and can not sell is too much for some people. In the end though if I can find something cheap to buy online I may just do that rather than searching a bunch of yards for something they might not even have.
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Old 10-23-2018, 10:12 PM   #3493
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Will this one do? Will I need to find the mating end for 6spd or will that shaft just slide in?
No idea. That's from a Legacy/Outback, you've got an Impreza.
See the sticky threads - https://forums.nasioc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=55.
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Old 10-25-2018, 10:40 PM   #3494
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Anyone ever swap a ez30r into a late model impreza? I have an 07 2.5i and i am looking into swapping the ez30d or r into the impreza, im just confused as to what engine management i should use as well as what i should do for drive by wire as i believe but not really sure if any of the ez motors are drive by wire. I dont want to do EG33 because of the length. Also i dont care about OBDII. Read the haltech 750 doesnt support AVCS as well and i dont want to spend 3k on a 2500 system. Any other management systems out their that are more bang for your buck? Im a noob to this. Have never swapped a motor just have done headgaskets a water pump and a clutch on this car so i dont really know much about what i need to know before hand doing this swap.
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Old 10-25-2018, 11:31 PM   #3495
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Anyone ever swap a ez30r into a late model impreza? I have an 07 2.5i and i am looking into swapping the ez30d or r into the impreza, im just confused as to what engine management i should use as well as what i should do for drive by wire as i believe but not really sure if any of the ez motors are drive by wire. I dont want to do EG33 because of the length. Also i dont care about OBDII. Read the haltech 750 doesnt support AVCS as well and i dont want to spend 3k on a 2500 system. Any other management systems out their that are more bang for your buck? Im a noob to this. Have never swapped a motor just have done headgaskets a water pump and a clutch on this car so i dont really know much about what i need to know before hand doing this swap.
A Haltech elite 1500 supports up to 4 VVT at a price point of about 1800$, dont know if thats MUCH better than the 2500 price for you, but if you end up going with the ez30D (metal intake) that motor only has VVT on the intake side, and so the elite 1000 CAN run that one. It's price point is 1567$. So plastic intake (ez30R) is VVT on all four cams, metal intake (ez30D) is VVT on both the intake cams.

Yes I know there's no such engine code as the ez30R, they're all technically ez30D.
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Old 10-26-2018, 02:08 PM   #3496
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A Haltech elite 1500 supports up to 4 VVT at a price point of about 1800$, dont know if thats MUCH better than the 2500 price for you, but if you end up going with the ez30D (metal intake) that motor only has VVT on the intake side, and so the elite 1000 CAN run that one. It's price point is 1567$. So plastic intake (ez30R) is VVT on all four cams, metal intake (ez30D) is VVT on both the intake cams.

Yes I know there's no such engine code as the ez30R, they're all technically ez30D.
Okay awesome, thank you for the information i will most likely go metal intake then and upgrade as time goes on. Also yes that is a way better price 1567$$ is better.
Also are the metal intake ez30d motors drive by cable? And if so would that swap be similar to that of a ej205 where i would just get a mechanical pedal assembly and route a cable?
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Old 10-26-2018, 02:22 PM   #3497
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Haltech 1000 is 4 injector 4 ignition so that will not work
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Okay awesome, thank you for the information i will most likely go metal intake then and upgrade as time goes on. Also yes that is a way better price 1567$$ is better.
Also are the metal intake ez30d motors drive by cable? And if so would that swap be similar to that of a ej205 where i would just get a mechanical pedal assembly and route a cable?
I dont actually know if its cable controlled or not. But you should be able to find an adapter plate if you want to run a cable driven throttle. I know the 09 motor I have is electronically controlled.
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Sorry missed that.
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Sorry missed that.
What management are you running
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