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Old 02-23-2018, 05:11 PM   #176
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There is a LARGE contrast between the most recent STI concept and the last one (granted wrx not sti, but similar idea), and this contrast lends me to believe that Subaru will be following Honda here.


well, one was a wrx concept, and this one is the sti concept, which I expect to be more frilly.

one thing is accurate, the previous exhausts were even bigger! wow, I wasn't kidding when I called those things grapefruit shooters!

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Well, I'll agree that the sti motor will likely be based on the FA, but it's not going to be copy/paste from the ascent. I'd look more towards the motor that's in the BTCC competing (and dominating) Levorg, than what goes into an SUV.

And thanks for not making me feel as old as I thought... although the car trends that showed up in the 2001 movie started in the 90's...
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Isn't this the Tourer thread? Isn't there already a Viziv Performance STi thread? Thought this one was for the next Levorg world market car.
man... what had happened was, someone made the audacious claim that people that own performance cars don't own dogs, and then someone started talking about german shepherds, and it went downhill real quick from there. now we have a locked thread.

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Old 02-23-2018, 05:15 PM   #177
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**IF THIS IS THE RETURN OF THE WRX HATCH HERE AND NOT A NEW MODEL**

Does the time line work where they could show this car in early March of 2018 and it become available by June of 2019?

I think most of us expect the 2020 WRX will be the new SGP Impreza sport shell with some flared fenders, a hood scoop, a spoiler, wider tires, and same 2.0L DIT engine currently used, right? (Thats about all it would take for me to be sold) Its almost just a trim upgrade from the Impreza except for fender flares/hood scoop body changes..

I don't understand the logic behind people saying Fall 2019 or 2020 for the makeover as if a new car is being made like the ascent.

I guess the STI could hold up the WRX... if they always released together?

I'm really wanting to upgrade to a performance hatch or wagon on the SGP BEFORE my 7 year warranty is up on my 2012 WRX in June 2019. I think I have a lingering hidden expensive issue that is going to pop up when I am off warranty. After driving a 2017 Impreza I dont want to put my money into a old platform WRX - it was too good in the handling and looks dept.

The current one is much more than just body panels(which was all of them except roof and trunk). There was more under skin work than any other in the past. I'd believe the same thing with the SGP. They are going to take the impressive SGP and beef IT up.
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Old 02-23-2018, 05:57 PM   #178
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well, one was a wrx concept, and this one is the sti concept, which I expect to be more frilly.
I acknowledged that. However, when you look at every production STI vs WRX, there is very little difference between the two. They receive the same exact styling cues.
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Old 02-23-2018, 06:04 PM   #179
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The current one is much more than just body panels(which was all of them except roof and trunk). There was more under skin work than any other in the past. I'd believe the same thing with the SGP. They are going to take the impressive SGP and beef IT up.
Subaru got you hook line and sinker, eh?

The green house has not changed from the impreza to the wrx, and that's what determines if the car is a sedan/hatch/wagon. That recipe will not change. They can pull sheet metal all day long, but when the piece of the car that makes it a car remains unchanged, it's still a hopped up impreza.
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Old 02-23-2018, 06:53 PM   #180
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Subaru got you hook line and sinker, eh?

The green house has not changed from the impreza to the wrx, and that's what determines if the car is a sedan/hatch/wagon. That recipe will not change. They can pull sheet metal all day long, but when the piece of the car that makes it a car remains unchanged, it's still a hopped up impreza.
Or how about they showed us, at training, all the reinforcements to the chassis that differentiate it from the standard Impreza chassis. I never said they didn't start with an Impreza chassis. I said the differences were much more than body panels.
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Old 02-23-2018, 07:06 PM   #181
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Or how about they showed us, at training, all the reinforcements to the chassis that differentiate it from the standard Impreza chassis. I never said they didn't start with an Impreza chassis. I said the differences were much more than body panels.
Yeah, i get it. Just think that wasn't what mtnx was getting at. Visually, the car is an impreza with some modified bolted on panels/lights. There's other things going on in the background.

i'm just angry because I'm stuck home sick. time to stop posting.
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Old 02-23-2018, 07:55 PM   #182
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Yeah, i get it. Just think that wasn't what mtnx was getting at. Visually, the car is an impreza with some modified bolted on panels/lights. There's other things going on in the background.

i'm just angry because I'm stuck home sick. time to stop posting.
Ah. No prob. I read his post several times to make sure I was responding "correctly". No doubt I still missed it.
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Old 02-23-2018, 11:27 PM   #183
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Yeah, i get it. Just think that wasn't what mtnx was getting at. Visually, the car is an impreza with some modified bolted on panels/lights. There's other things going on in the background.

i'm just angry because I'm stuck home sick. time to stop posting.
I guess my point was that the SGP impreza sport handles better than my WRX.. so im kind of thinking there isnt much work needed like the current WRX
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Old 02-23-2018, 11:32 PM   #184
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Or how about they showed us, at training, all the reinforcements to the chassis that differentiate it from the standard Impreza chassis. I never said they didn't start with an Impreza chassis. I said the differences were much more than body panels.
I didnt know they beef the chassis for the WRX. Thanks.. that is a part that probably takes a while to test and perfect.
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Old 02-23-2018, 11:43 PM   #185
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I guess my point was that the SGP impreza sport handles better than my WRX.. so im kind of thinking there isnt much work needed like the current WRX
gotcha... so I guess I was the one misinterpreting. There were a few photos posted up a while back showing how and where they reinforced the chassis. It wasn't earth shattering, but looked like they added welds and such in certain places. So yes, with regards to that, there is a bit more going on behind the scenes to stiffen up the chassis.
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If you pull up the 2017 impreza concept and the older levorg concept there are distinct differences. Until we get a better angle or reference to say otherwise, the viziv tourer image is difficult to decipher. However it reminds me of the hatchback of the veloster, not the typical look of a wagon door.
http://www.dpccars.com/blog/2017-subaru-impreza-concept/
http://www.automobilemag.com/news/subaru-advanced-tourer-concept/

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The rear door of the new veloster reminds me of the tourer image
http://allcarspreview.com/2018-hyundai-veloster/
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