New WRX and new engine on the way

[rallly 4]

Originally Posted by JustyWRC

Exactly. USDM is something like 70% of their global sales. Barely 1 million total. To compare, Suzuki, not even in the U.S. anymore, sold over 3 million cars last year. Now, before they sold off Subaru Power, they were the 4th largest engine manufacturer in the world(crazy right?!). I still don't understand that move. When I took the Gunma tour in April, they said the aerospace side only accounts for, like, 2% of their business. I might be a bit off. I'm at the station today. I'll find the brochure they gave me. I think it was in there. Honda......if it combusts fuel, they make it. Help me to know what they don't make, if they don't. Sure, Subaru has lots of money still; but, isn't that the point of business? To make money? Not pander to a "low" volume customer that isn't substantially helping that end goal?




The comment of Honda/Toyota/VW selling every car. Well yeah. That's not much an issue when you make them low volume by design. Make them in the numbers Subaru has offered with the WRX line and perhaps they don't get to sell them above MSRP?




But, I'm also in the camp very disappointed in this company that can't seem to get their emissions under control? I was ready to get that STI,

They could have easily eaten the fines per car , they wouldn’t be first company to lose money on a car that has the halo effect. Now you have (2021 model year 20 calendar year to 2025) the beginning of a generation of car enthusiasts who won’t look at Subaru the same way so many have for 20+ years .

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[Mr.Sparkle]

Originally Posted by dwf137

They sold, but not at advertised price. Until this current generation, I do not recall WRX's selling for several thousand below MSRP, especially here in the PNW where most dealers try to add on a "PNW Market Adjustment" ADM.

I bought my 2015 WRX when ordering first opened in 2014. I was able to negotiate it to $1000 under invoice and that's in New England which is definitely Subaru country. If I recall correctly many people were reporting similar pricing back then.

[Kostamojen]

Could get $2k+ off at Huerberger back in the day with the VA's.

[JustyWRC]

Originally Posted by rallly 4

They could have easily eaten the fines per car , they wouldn’t be first company to lose money on a car that has the halo effect. Now you have (2021 model year 20 calendar year to 2025) the beginning of a generation of car enthusiasts who won’t look at Subaru the same way so many have for 20+ years .

Name another car company that sells less than 1 million cars a year globally that sells a car at a loss.

[JustyWRC]

Originally Posted by Kostamojen

Could get $2k+ off at Huerberger back in the day with the VA's.

Notice they aren't doing that anymore?

[rallly 4]

Originally Posted by JustyWRC

Name another car company that sells less than 1 million cars a year globally that sells a car at a loss.

off the top of my head, Lotus for sure wasn't making money on every model they sold here for the last 25 years


Mazda wasn't breaking 1M global until the early 2000s? They had Rx7's in the 90s, Mazdaspeed products in the early 2000s rx8 as well...they're like Subaru almost

[Brahmzy]

Originally Posted by JustyWRC

Notice they aren't doing that anymore?

Justy heard the H word and got triggered. And yes, depending on who you are they are doing insane discounting still. Blanket statements are dumb.

[JustyWRC]

Originally Posted by rallly 4

off the top of my head, Lotus for sure wasn't making money on every model they sold here for the last 25 years


Mazda wasn't breaking 1M global until the early 2000s? They had Rx7's in the 90s, Mazdaspeed products in the early 2000s rx8 as well...they're like Subaru almost

Lotus. Owned by Geely. Sells roughly 2.79 million cars. Mazda? Sold a million 25 years ago. How many did Subaru sell? WELL less. Less than 200K in the U.S. I'll agree "like" Subaru; but, you're saying they took losses on the Rx models?

Originally Posted by Brahmzy

Justy heard the H word and got triggered. And yes, depending on who you are they are doing insane discounting still. Blanket statements are dumb.

H word? Heuberger? I love Heuberger. Sent my Aunt there to get her last Forester(well under holdback and several accessories at no charge). Not sure where you're trying to go with that. Now, I haven't checked recently(it was sometime last year); but, they certainly aren't doing quite the same. Went from selling nearly DOUBLE the #2 selling retailer to, as of this post, tied for 8th with Little Rock, AR. Which, I know for a fact(they are in our district), don't sell anywhere near what Heuberger was selling them at when they sold 6000 a year(really only crossed that number once IIRC). What "blanket" statement are you referring to?

[Front_Plate]

Make it an H6 2 door.

[dwf137]

Originally Posted by JRodrigues

https://bestcarweb.jp/news/scoop/1229733

[rallly 4]

Originally Posted by JustyWRC

Lotus. Owned by Geely. Sells roughly 2.79 million cars. Mazda? Sold a million 25 years ago. How many did Subaru sell? WELL less. Less than 200K in the U.S. I'll agree "like" Subaru; but, you're saying they took losses on the Rx models?




H word? Heuberger? I love Heuberger. Sent my Aunt there to get her last Forester(well under holdback and several accessories at no charge). Not sure where you're trying to go with that. Now, I haven't checked recently(it was sometime last year); but, they certainly aren't doing quite the same. Went from selling nearly DOUBLE the #2 selling retailer to, as of this post, tied for 8th with Little Rock, AR. Which, I know for a fact(they are in our district), don't sell anywhere near what Heuberger was selling them at when they sold 6000 a year(really only crossed that number once IIRC). What "blanket" statement are you referring to?

100% they lost money on every single RX model since the FD. Pre geely ownership , esp in the 90s and early 2k lotus was eating it on almost every car

[WRX4US]

Originally Posted by Front_Plate

Make it an H6 2 door.

Please; no!

[Brahmzy]

Originally Posted by Front_Plate

Make it an H6 2 door.

Add turbo(s), keep 2 doors, but coupe. Done. Wait, don’t make it ugly again. Done.

[WRX4US]

Originally Posted by Brahmzy

Add turbo(s), keep 2 doors, but coupe. Done. Wait, don’t make it ugly again. Done.

I don’t think I’ll ever buy a car with less than 5 doors ever again.

[KC]

Originally Posted by Front_Plate

Make it an H6 2 door.

Maybe it will have a monkey in the trunk to help counter-balance the weight distribution in cornering.

Or better yet, an H6.... front 4 cyls do the power generation to a single turbo, the back 2 do charging of the hybrid (through another turbine).

[21ej]

Originally Posted by WRX4US

I don’t think I’ll ever buy a car with less than 5 doors ever again.

7 doors for me

[KC]

Originally Posted by 21ej

7 doors for me

Kids got moxie. I like where your head's at... You can stay.

[samagon]

Originally Posted by KC

Kids got moxie. I like where your head's at... You can stay.

I don't trust anyone with a member number over 536608.

[SCRAPPYDO]

Originally Posted by samagon

I don't trust anyone with a member number over 536608.

I know what you mean man.

shifty

[fredzy]

21ej be like

[21ej]

Originally Posted by fredzy

21ej be like

Haha, I don't take it to heart. The new guy aways gets some flack.
However, I have been a lurker since 2016-ish..but even if i had created the account back then, that's still noob status. Big props to the guys that have been here since the beginning..I see your join dates. Crazy to think a group of you guys have been in the game since ~2000. Mad respect.

[Masterauto]

Photo of the ugliest WRX/STI ever made hatch wagon or whatever it was

[21ej]

Originally Posted by Masterauto

Photo of the ugliest WRX/STI ever made hatch wagon or whatever it was

Does it not look like a 2015 Impreza Sport?

edit: With the addition of a hood scoop/body aero

[SubaDuba420]

Originally Posted by Front_Plate

Make it an H6 2 door.

Originally Posted by Brahmzy

Add turbo(s), keep 2 doors, but coupe. Done. Wait, don’t make it ugly again. Done.

SSSSssssshhhhh!!! if anyone mentions "and make it manual" HTBS will be summoned...

[chanomatik]

I volunteer as tribute!

I'm too nomadic to consider owning more than one vehicle, so I think I'll have to resign to owning a 5-door as well. However, an AWD manual transmission performance coupe will always have a place in my heart.

Might have to look at used Audi TT RS...