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Old 06-22-2017, 09:02 AM   #1
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Hyundai N is putting the final touches on its first model, the i30 N hot hatch, but the official performance division of the Korean automaker has more coming.

The next will be a Veloster N, a prototype for which has been spotted.

The Veloster N will be based on a next-generation Veloster which is also out testing in prototype form and due in showrooms next year, as a 2019 model. The N version should bow around the same time.

Compared to the prototypes for the standard Veloster, the Veloster N prototype features new intakes in the front bumper, dual-exhaust tips (the regular Veloster has a single, center-mounted exhaust tip), bigger wheels, and uprated brakes with red calipers.

2019 Hyundai Veloster N spy shots - Image via S. Baldauf/SB-Medien
2019 Hyundai Veloster N spy shots - Image via S. Baldauf/SB-Medien
Under the hood should be Hyundai N’s newly developed 2.0-liter turbocharged inline-4. The engine has survived the grueling 24 Hours Nürburgring endurance race and is expected to offer upwards of 271 horsepower. In the Veloster N, expect it to be paired with an 8-speed dual-clutch transmission and spin the front wheels only.

Hyundai N engineers also had a Volkswagen Golf GTI on hand for benchmarking. Hyundai N boss Albert Biermann, a former BMW M engineering boss, openly admits the VW is his yardstick, describing it as an ideally balanced hatchback that perfectly straddles the line between performance and practicality.

Hyundai N won’t offer the i30 N in the United States, even though we’re getting the standard i30 as the Elantra GT. The good news is that the Veloster N is almost certain for our market.

We should have more details on Hyundai N’s plans following the debut of the i30 N at September’s 2017 Frankfurt auto show.




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Old 06-22-2017, 11:29 AM   #2
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this will be at least 12k cheaper than the CTR, and 2k cheaper than the CSi
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I'm disappointed that they won't bring the N version of the i30/Elantra GT to the U.S., especially when they are benchmarking it against the GTI. The Veloster seems to be too polarizing of a vehicle design and limited practicality that limits it's sales. It better be good for someone to pick this over the many hot hatch options.
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So how many hot hatches will other manufacturers need to make before Subaru says.....hmmm maybe we should make one again...I bet Chevy makes one before SOA gets one. Cruze SS.
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I'm disappointed that they won't bring the N version of the i30/Elantra GT to the U.S., especially when they are benchmarking it against the GTI. The Veloster seems to be too polarizing of a vehicle design and limited practicality that limits it's sales. It better be good for someone to pick this over the many hot hatch options.
actually from what I read from other various websites is that they are going to facelift the Veloster and put the new 2.0 turbo in the veloster and the 5 door variant is going to be the Elantra N Performance with an optional performance pack that gives it up to 280 horses.
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this will be at least 12k cheaper than the CTR, and 2k cheaper than the CSi
Good luck with that. The current regular turbo model is only like 2k short of the SI.
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Old 06-23-2017, 04:15 PM   #7
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So how many hot hatches will other manufacturers need to make before Subaru says.....hmmm maybe we should make one again...
LOL, I'm guessing SOA wants to wait until everyone has forgotten Doll's sedan quote so he doesn't have to eat crow.
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So how many hot hatches will other manufacturers need to make before Subaru says.....hmmm maybe we should make one again...I bet Chevy makes one before SOA gets one. Cruze SS.
Subaru is selling more of the current generation sedan only WRX/STI than they did last generation with two body stiles available and outsells all their hot hatch competitors by a large margin. Really other companies would be better spent trying to copy Subaru than the other way around. The best sales year last generation (hatch/sedan) was just under 18k sold and Subaru has eclipsed 30k in sales the past few years and on pace to do it again this year as a sedan only model. Think about that for a second before you try and convince Subaru that they are doing things wrong.

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Old 06-27-2017, 03:30 PM   #9
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Subaru as a whole has been on a major upswing so it's difficult to guess how much they're missing out by not offering a hatch.
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Subaru as a whole has been on a major upswing so it's difficult to guess how much they're missing out by not offering a hatch.
Pretty doubtful they are missing the hatch based on double the model line sales without one. The only way to find out would be for the major decision makers to put their necks on the line and find out as messing with something that's clearly working is a good way to get fired or moved out of decision making. The sedan is here to stay and I imagine it's a matter of if Subaru thinks they could sell enough extra cars to warrant splitting the assembly line back into two body styles.
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I disagree buddy. To stand here and say sedans are here to stay when every single metric measured shows the sales of the sedan are being replaced with CUV's in mass. Sedans are no longer the dominate body style vehicle sold, SUV's and CUV's are. Along with that, hatch back sales are increasing dramatically. This is NOT a good time to be in sedan sales only. Subaru would do well to introduce a WRX hatch. I would even wager if they went all hatch the sales of this car would be just as strong or stronger than the all sedan they have now.
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Pretty doubtful they are missing the hatch based on double the model line sales without one. The only way to find out would be for the major decision makers to put their necks on the line and find out as messing with something that's clearly working is a good way to get fired or moved out of decision making. The sedan is here to stay and I imagine it's a matter of if Subaru thinks they could sell enough extra cars to warrant splitting the assembly line back into two body styles.
Do you mean WRX sales have doubled this gen? That's not surprising, since it's a huge improvement on the last gen in every way except performance. It's attracting a much broader audience. In no way does that prove anything about potential hatch sales.
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Incredible to see that Hyundai, being the boarder-line design plagiarizers that they are, used a BMW M boss to lead their N line. Are they hoping americans will associate the phonetic similarities between these M/N performance divisions?
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So, do they mean it's only going to be an automatic, or just that it's only going to be FWD?
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Incredible to see that Hyundai, being the boarder-line design plagiarizers that they are, used a BMW M boss to lead their N line. Are they hoping americans will associate the phonetic similarities between these M/N performance divisions?
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Hyundai refers to its quirky one-plus-two-door Veloster coupe as a “reverse halo vehicle,” meaning it’s intended to draw young buyers in and get them hooked so that as they age, start families, and get promoted they’ll buy ever fancier Hyundai cars and utes. In Korea they even sell it under a “Premium Youth Lab” subbrand. Well, it’s hard to keep the kids interested year after year, and this new-for-2012 sporty car is arguably overdue for a do-over. One might expect a more radical redo in a market so fashion-conscious, but the new 2019 Hyundai Veloster certainly won’t be mistaken for anything else.

The continuous sweep of the roof into the backlite, the third half door on the passenger side, and the center exhaust outlet are all faithfully retained in this reimagining of Hyundai’s “city rally car,” but there’s a new wider sunroof, the A-pillars and cowl are moved back to visually extend the length of the hood, and aerodynamic air curtains are fitted to the front and (less expectedly) rear wheels. Up front, LED headlights and daytime running lights flank the new “pouring steel” cascade grille, and at the rear there are new LED taillights, dual centrally positioned exhaust outlets, and a more aggressive diffuser. Overall length increases by 0.8 inch (it’s all in the extended front overhang), and it’s wider by 0.4 inch.

Meanwhile most of what you don’t see has been substantially upgraded. The wheelbase is retained but the chassis shares more Elantra/Kona platform architecture, including the standard multilink rear suspension. The base naturally aspirated engine upgrades from 1.6 to 2.0 liters, gaining Atkinson-cycle efficiency plus 15 more horsepower and 12 additional lb-ft. That adds up to peak ratings of 147 hp at 6,200 rpm and 132 lb-ft at 4,500 rpm. A choice of six-speed manual or automatic transmissions is offered.

The up-level engine is still a 201-hp, 195-lb-ft 1.6-liter turbo, though it’s retuned so that peak torque arrives earlier (1,500 rpm versus 1,750) mated to a six-speed manual or a seven-speed twin-clutch automatic that gets sportier programming to hold lower gears when cornering. And augmenting the sport-tuned intake and exhaust sounds made by these engines will be Active Sound Design noises delivered via the sound system and tailored to the drive modes, which now include normal, sport, and smart.

Chassis-wise, 17-inch aluminum wheels are standard with 18s optional. Four different wheel designs are offered. Michelin Pilot Sport summer tires are available on Turbo models. The steering ratio is also quicker by 10 percent for more agile feeling dynamics.

The 2019 Veloster’s interior design aesthetic was apparently inspired by café racer motorcycles, and it echoes the exterior’s asymmetry. A 7.0-inch display audio system is standard with an optional 8.0-inch display that offers performance gauges for turbo boost, engine torque, and lateral/longitudinal g forces. Qi wireless charging and an Infinity premium audio system are available, as is a wide, full-color pop-up reconfigurable head-up display that can depict speed limit, navigation instructions, adaptive cruise and lane-keep assist icons, and several more warnings along with the more traditional speedometer and tachometer.

New safety features include forward collision avoidance assist, lane keep assist, blind-spot detection with rear cross traffic alert, high-beam assist, and driver attention alert (which analyzes driving behavior, looking for increased lateral movement in lane, sudden increase of steering pattern, or insufficient lane guidance).

For 2019, five trim grades will be offered: 2.0, 2.0 Premium (automatic only), a lighter, more basic Turbo R-Spec with manual transmission, a middle Turbo offering with the seven-speed twin-clutch, and a fully loaded Turbo Ultimate variant that can be had with either transmission. Color choices include black, white, orange, red, and three shades of silver/gray with Turbo Ultimate models getting a black roof. Cloth is standard on 2.0 and Turbo R-Spec, a cloth-leather combo comes with 2.0 Premium or Turbo, and Ultimates get full leather with two-tone black and Sand Storm gray. All get colorful anodized dash accents in different colors.

The 2019 Veloster might look and feel a bit more grown up, but don’t expect its price to leap beyond the reach of the youthful clientele Hyundai expects it to lure into the Hyundai brand.

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so that is not the "N" variant, correct? text states as much, but I'm just wondering if/when the "N" version is going to hit (not that' I'm interested, just curious).
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so that is not the "N" variant, correct? text states as much, but I'm just wondering if/when the "N" version is going to hit (not that' I'm interested, just curious).
It hits now

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-show...-photos-specs/

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Just after the Veloster and Veloster Turbo made their debut at the 2018 Detroit Auto Show, Hyundai whipped out something even more interesting. This is the 2019 Hyundai Veloster N, the first car from Hyundai's new performance sub-brand to come to the US. It's a manual-only, 275-hp hot hatch that looks ready to tussle with rivals from VW, Honda, and Ford.


The Veloster is largely similar to the European-market i30 N, which is already getting rave reviews. Our expectations are high for this Veloster.

Its 275 hp comes from a 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder that also offers 260 lb-ft of torque. All that power is sent to the front wheels via a six-speed manual (the only transmission available) that offers auto-rev-matched downshifts.


The Veloster N will offer some trick chassis components to make the most of its horsepower. Adaptive dampers are standard, while an electronically controlled limited-slip differential is optional. Those adaptive dampers offer what Hyundai calls a "load-transfer control system" that helps reduce squat and dive during acceleration and braking and minimizes body roll.

Standard, the Veloster N comes with Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires on 18-inch wheels, with optional 19-inch wheels wrapped in Pirelli P Zeroes. There's also an optional brake upgrade, which brings 13.6-inch rotors at the front, 12.4-inch at the rear, up 0.6 inches at both axles.

Production for the Veloster N begins this September with US-market deliveries beginning in Q4 of 2018.
It's not terrible, but I 100% prefer the looks of the i30 N.
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Some pretty good standard equipment there. Surprised to see MPSS on a Hyundai.

Not bad honestly. I wonder how much it'll cost and if any WRX buyers will bother to look at it.
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Good article on this car from R&T

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-show...ing-lap-times/

The key points are the priorities of the performance setup

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"Driving enjoyment is the whole point of an N car," Biermann told me at the Detroit Auto Show. "We developed it for driving fun, for nice challenging mountain roads or a tiny challenging race track. We don't care about lap times. If you're going for lap times, the aero settings are different, the suspension setting is different. It’s faster for a professional driver, but it’s not as enjoyable. We don’t care for that. We want many people to enjoy this N experience, people who might not have driven a sporty car before.
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"Our car should be very approachable," Biermann continued. "You don’t need to be a highly-skilled high-performance driver to have fun in an N car. It should be really accessible to normal drivers. They can sense this N feeling, learn and grow with the car, and get even more fun out of it. That’s our philosophy."
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That's not to say that the Veloster N isn't capable on the track. "You can enjoy it on the track, a lot," Biermann told R&T. "But it’s not the fastest car on the track. The brake system, the oil supply system, the precision in the car, it’s all there for track driving. But the way we set the aero, the way we tuned the chassis, the tire choice, we were never focused on fast lap times. If we did that, we would have a different car."
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Does that mean this 275-horse front-driver is the pinnacle of Hyundai performance? "We had prototype cars with more powerful engines and all-wheel drive and all kinds of stuff," Biermann told me. "For now, I think this is the right way to go. We’re coming from nowhere. This is the right first step. Now we have to watch very carefully how the market responds to this, what kind of customers do we get. Then we'll see how we move on. Is there room for a higher level [of performance]? We need to learn with this car first."
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Good on them to put it out there. Track times seem to be the key to sports car development these days. I mean look how many cars have wings, lips and canards from the factory these days. Not to say that it doesn't make for a good recipe.

I like their philosophy here. Put something simple out, see how it does, then go from there.
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It's a great start. The European talent they've hired is making a real impact.

What's next? Whatever people are willing to buy.
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I was willing to give the stinger/G70 a go, but auto only and 4k curb weight turned me off - if they make something lighter, 4 doors, manual, rwd 10/1 or even 12/1 I'll probably give it a while, unless of course they are chasing BMW/Merc/Lexus/Audi with the price tag.
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Good article on this car from R&T

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-show...ing-lap-times/

The key points are the priorities of the performance setup
So they map the throttle aggressively and shorten the steering ratio... Now the "...people who might not have driven a sporty car before." think they are driving a sporty car.

I call BS.
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