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Old 05-06-2018, 12:17 PM   #26
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My girlfriend just picked up a 997.2 GT3 for a daily. Went with it over a 991.1 cuz manual (even though the new PDK is insanely good). Totally see where your SO is coming from. My girlfriend isn't into paying over MSRP for a car and the wait on a 991.2 was out of my girlfriend's patience timeframe.
You, Avanti, and I all have girlfriends. If we had wives, would we still be driving Subarus?

Divorced buddy of mine has been traveling to San Diego every week for dates - a 9 here is akin to a 4 or 5 in San Diego - for all the money that is here, we truly have the ugliest group of chicks imaginable. If hot chicks were smarter, they would be camping out in Silicon Valley taking down rich nerds by the dozen.
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If I can get out of here I'll be comin' to TX, MT, maybe WY. Want a spread for horses, land to hunt, and a river to fish. I got a nice NRA sticker at the last dinner and it is now on the back of the F350 LOL an offense punishable by tar and feathering here.
We got all those things here, plus Atlanta's not far if you're missing the big city life.


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You, Avanti, and I all have girlfriends. If we had wives, would we still be driving Subarus?

Divorced buddy of mine has been traveling to San Diego every week for dates - a 9 here is akin to a 4 or 5 in San Diego - for all the money that is here, we truly have the ugliest group of chicks imaginable. If hot chicks were smarter, they would be camping out in Silicon Valley taking down rich nerds by the dozen.
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Old 05-07-2018, 09:52 AM   #29
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You, Avanti, and I all have girlfriends. If we had wives, would we still be driving Subarus?

Divorced buddy of mine has been traveling to San Diego every week for dates - a 9 here is akin to a 4 or 5 in San Diego - for all the money that is here, we truly have the ugliest group of chicks imaginable. If hot chicks were smarter, they would be camping out in Silicon Valley taking down rich nerds by the dozen.
Luckily my gf makes bad enough decisions with buying cars & parts that I would likely be okay.

I have friends from SF that come down for the same reason.
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Old 05-07-2018, 01:11 PM   #32
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I wonder how much insurance is ? Would love one of these If I could afford it but at the cost I would have trouble parking it and walking away. Like leaving 11/4 $million art in a parking lot. Too extravagant to enjoy
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I wonder how much insurance is ? Would love one of these If I could afford it but at the cost I would have trouble parking it and walking away. Like leaving 11/4 $million art in a parking lot. Too extravagant to enjoy
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Guess this guy didnít know the manual RS had real Tall first two cogs(giggles), thatís why it does 85 in second gear and three quarters of a second slower to sixty then pdk wth launch CTR on.
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Guess this guy didnít know the manual RS had real Tall first two cogs(giggles), thatís why it does 85 in second gear and three quarters of a second slower to sixty then pdk wth launch CTR on.
RS is PDK only. GT3 had the MT option.

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That looks like a 997.2 GT3RS, which came with a manual transmission. The 991 is PDK only.
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You, Avanti, and I all have girlfriends. If we had wives, would we still be driving Subarus?

Divorced buddy of mine has been traveling to San Diego every week for dates - a 9 here is akin to a 4 or 5 in San Diego - for all the money that is here, we truly have the ugliest group of chicks imaginable. If hot chicks were smarter, they would be camping out in Silicon Valley taking down rich nerds by the dozen.
I watched a video from the dude talking about MGTOW. Everything has to have a label now. Anyways, he made a great point. Odds are all on the house. Compared it to Vegas. Couldnít disagree.
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that Porsche would have lost no matter what it, dual clutch, or had or smoked the clutch or good driver etc....no match for a 427 cobra....and that cobra wasn't even trying LOL. I think he feathered it off the line out of sympathy for the Porsche to give him a chance. NEVER mess with a 427 cobra off the line unless you have something really really really fast...or else you'll be very embarrassed or maybe even total your car....how much is a transmisshun in one of them fancy V.W's anyway LOL

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Old 11-29-2019, 11:53 PM   #40
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that Porsche would have lost no matter what it, dual clutch, or had or smoked the clutch or good driver etc....no match for a 427 cobra....and that cobra wasn't even trying LOL. I think he feathered it off the line out of sympathy for the Porsche to give him a chance. NEVER mess with a 427 cobra off the line unless you have something really really really fast...or else you'll be very embarrassed or maybe even total your car....how much is a transmisshun in one of them fancy V.W's anyway LOL
Uhhhh... there are quite a few cars, including 997.2 GT3 (and RS), that outrun a 427 Cobra.

For reference, the following SUVs will walk a 427 Cobra: Betegya, Cayenne Turbo, Grand Cherokee Trackhawk, Model X P100D Luda, Urus.
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Uhhhh... there are quite a few cars, including 997.2 GT3 (and RS), that outrun a 427 Cobra.

For reference, the following SUVs will walk a 427 Cobra: Betegya, Cayenne Turbo, Grand Cherokee Trackhawk, Model X P100D Luda, Urus.
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Uhhhh... there are quite a few cars, including 997.2 GT3 (and RS), that outrun a 427 Cobra.

For reference, the following SUVs will walk a 427 Cobra: Betegya, Cayenne Turbo, Grand Cherokee Trackhawk, Model X P100D Luda, Urus.
No,, the point is that Porsche with the blown clutch(it was probably broken long before he met that cobra, but STILL tried to race it wich is even more hilarious), just highlights that there were cars AS fast or faster almost 60 years ago LOL....and they didnt need twin turbo's superchargers or 900 horsepower 3 phase 4 pole AC induction motors to do it Bwa ha ha ha ha ha.

The only reason cars are so much faster today than in the peak of the 60's muscle car era is the advancements in fuel injection and forced air induction being so efficient, the modern transmissions, and the ability to blend power and gas mileage and the tire technology to hook up the power.

There were also versions of the A/C cobra that would equal or beat the fastest cars on your list....specifically the 66' 427 S/C cobra which was a factory competition version the the standard 427 cobra...and there was even a dual Paxton supercharged 427 cobra called the supersnake(wich the name has carried over today to the mustangs etc) that had 800 horsepower 0-60 in 3 seconds, 200 MPH. etc etc. Again this was 1966.....only now in the past couple of years has technology advanced to the point where the fastest production cars in the world have reached the point where they are faster LOL. I mean if you can't appreciate the significance of the 427 cobra? Wow. And the handeling/cornering ability of the cobra's? Just as good as the straight line performance. At the end of the day it would take very little tweaks in suspension and engine tuning/bolt on mods to a 60's era 427 cobra to beat the cars you listed. Let alone installing a modern supercharger kit or twin turbo kit.

Throw a supercharger with 140 cu in of displacement on that 427 cobra or twin turbos and it will blow the doors of any of the cars you listed. The original 427 A/C cobra could dip into the 11's (remember this was the mid 60's). The power to weight ratio of those cars is amazing. Its timeless and will ALWAYS hold its own with 60 year old technology which is extremely impressive....I mean just watch him sprint away from that Porsche as the Porsche disintegrates off the line. The 427 Cobra is also much more durable than any of the cars you listed. Everything today is so delicate. LOL

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No,, the point is that Porsche with the blown clutch(it was probably broken long before he met that cobra, but STILL tried to race it wich is even more hilarious), just highlights that there were cars AS fast or faster almost 60 years ago LOL....and they didnt need twin turbo's superchargers or 900 horsepower 3 phase 4 pole AC induction motors to do it Bwa ha ha ha ha ha.
3.8 n/a 6 cyl is faster than 7 liter n/a V8.

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The only reason cars are so much faster today than in the peak of the 60's muscle car era is the advancements in fuel injection and forced air induction being so efficient, the modern transmissions, and the ability to blend power and gas mileage and the tire technology to hook up the power.
The term you're searching for is "technology"

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There were also versions of the A/C cobra that would equal or beat the fastest cars on your list....specifically the 66' 427 S/C cobra which was a factory competition version the the standard 427 cobra...and there was even a dual Paxton supercharged 427 cobra called the supersnake(wich the name has carried over today to the mustangs etc) that had 800 horsepower 0-60 in 3 seconds, 200 MPH. etc etc.
There were not.

If you truly believe a car with the aerodynamics of a brick can do 200mph with 485hp in a 4 speed...

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Again this was 1966.....only now in the past couple of years has technology advanced to the point where the fastest production cars in the world have reached the point where they are faster LOL. I mean if you can't appreciate the significance of the 427 cobra? Wow. And the handeling/cornering ability of the cobra's? Just as good as the straight line performance. At the end of the day it would take very little tweaks in suspension and engine tuning/bolt on mods to a 60's era 427 cobra to beat the cars you listed. Let alone installing a modern supercharger kit or twin turbo kit.
Nowhere did I say that I don't appreciate the Cobra.

Fun fact, the Cobra is currently produced and the Viper has existed since the early 90's.

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Throw a supercharger with 140 cu in of displacement on that 427 cobra or twin turbos and it will blow the doors of any of the cars you listed. The original 427 A/C cobra could dip into the 11's (remember this was the mid 60's). The power to weight ratio of those cars is amazing. Its timeless and will ALWAYS hold its own with 60 year old technology which is extremely impressive....I mean just watch him sprint away from that Porsche as the Porsche disintegrates off the line. The 427 Cobra is also much more durable than any of the cars you listed. Everything today is so delicate. LOL
720S > all of that

Note, "cars I listed" are actually a hand full of new SUV's.
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3.8 n/a 6 cyl is faster than 7 liter n/a V8.


The term you're searching for is "technology"


There were not.

If you truly believe a car with the aerodynamics of a brick can do 200mph with 485hp in a 4 speed...


Nowhere did I say that I don't appreciate the Cobra.

Fun fact, the Cobra is currently produced and the Viper has existed since the early 90's.


720S > all of that

Note, "cars I listed" are actually a hand full of new SUV's.
They werent built for top speed..instead...neck snapping acceleration..hence the 4.11 rear axle ratio....which would serve as a limiter to top speed far before the aerodynamic drag would. I mean these cars weigh in at 2700 lbs WITH a driver. With 500_ horsepower the original 66 427 cobras were capable of 180 MPH assuming the driver had the balls.

Yup point is that it took cars like the ones you have listed 50++ years to be able to make a noticeable gap in performance potential relative to the 500-800 horsepower 1966 427 Cobra also lets not loose sight of the fact that these cars were modified and tuned back in the day as well...backyard cam intake and exaust changes with ridiculously simply tuning...could make them a LOT faster. The 427 Cobra is the King....its really only been the past 10 years that
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then of course there was the 69 L88 Corvette with all aluminum 427 the legendary ZL1.....these vettes were ridiculously under rated from GM at 430 horsepower when they were actually putting out 550+ when fitted with full length headers to uncork them and allow them to breathe. They were running 11's in the 1/4(again 1969) stock, and could do 180 MPH. 0-60 in the high 3 second range. That same engine also made it into Camaro's and some Nova SS's. If only we could transport some modern tires back in time to owners of these original pinnacle muscle cars...those E.T's were on 60's era tech tires LOL. Bolt on's and slicks and they ran 10's. It took 50+ years and lots of evolution in technology for cars to return to the performance that these 60's muscle cars were capable of with very crude by comparison engineering.

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They werent built for top speed..instead...neck snapping acceleration..hence the 4.11 rear axle ratio....which would serve as a limiter to top speed far before the aerodynamic drag would. I mean these cars weigh in at 2700 lbs WITH a driver. With 500_ horsepower the original 66 427 cobras were capable of 180 MPH assuming the driver had the balls.

Yup point is that it took cars like the ones you have listed 50++ years to be able to make a noticeable gap in performance potential relative to the 500-800 horsepower 1966 427 Cobra also lets not loose sight of the fact that these cars were modified and tuned back in the day as well...backyard cam intake and exaust changes with ridiculously simply tuning...could make them a LOT faster. The 427 Cobra is the King....its really only been the past 10 years that
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then of course there was the 69 L88 Corvette with all aluminum 427 the legendary ZL1.....these vettes were ridiculously under rated from GM at 430 horsepower when they were actually putting out 550+ when fitted with full length headers to uncork them and allow them to breathe. They were running 11's in the 1/4(again 1969) stock, and could do 180 MPH. 0-60 in the high 3 second range. That same engine also made it into Camaro's and some Nova SS's. If only we could transport some modern tires back in time to owners of these original pinnacle muscle cars...those E.T's were on 60's era tech tires LOL. Bolt on's and slicks and they ran 10's. It took 50+ years and lots of evolution in technology for cars to return to the performance that these 60's muscle cars were capable of with very crude by comparison engineering.
Let me give you a nickel's worth of free advice. Do some research before spouting off numbers.

ZL1 = 2 cars produced and ran a 12 flat, the ONE TIME car reviewers could get their grubby mits on one and test it.

<- has a solid lifter C1, so let's talk 60's Corvettes.
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Let me give you a nickel's worth of free advice. Do some research before spouting off numbers.

ZL1 = 2 cars produced and ran a 12 flat, the ONE TIME car reviewers could get their grubby mits on one and test it.

<- has a solid lifter C1, so let's talk 60's Corvettes.
There were more than 2 corvettes that the ZL1 engines made it into.....as many as 20 as the engines were distributed to dealers....and 50 Camaro's got the engine. You are right that there are 2 known copo corvettes that were "production" sold through GM....but more corvettes got the engine behind the scenes. Then GM even made the block available again in the 90's from the original casting and had the original numbers on them. 150 lbs lighter than the cast iron L88...bigger cam and hi po oil pump. This stuff is just common knowledge now...but I've know this since the 80's when I did my "research" LOL.

And everyone knows that the ZL1's made 600 horsepower with headers and tune for the headers.

The ZL1 corvette

could run high 11's in the 1/4 mile and do 0-60 in the high 3's. That's a fact.

Personally I'd rather have the LS6 Chevelle 1970, or a GSX stage 2 buick. But I digress.

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