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Old 08-24-2018, 05:07 AM   #51
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400# could largely be taken up by the supercharger/intercooler/water tank setup they are going to run. It's probably going to be a water/air intercooler with heat exchangers in the intake manifold, so the IM will probably be revised (heavier) also. And then there's the added weight of a DCT compared to a manual.... They end up at 4,200# because the Mustang already starts out as a porker.
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Over 4000lbs??? I will be keeping my gt350.

Dropped nearly 80 lbs by switching to forged wheels from the OEM wheels. People are getting close to that HP with 3lbs of boost if I ever wanted to add power....and at much less weight (less than 100lbs?) than what would be close to 500lbs difference. The new engine reverts to a normal crank. No way. As much as I hate the visability, I would go with the track built camero for less money over this car at those specs.
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Old 08-24-2018, 01:20 PM   #53
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The GT500 just seems like a numbers car to go after the Hellcat. As a perspective, the Hellcat is nearly 4500 lbs. The ZL1 at least sits under 4000 lbs (barely, depending on trim).
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Over 4000lbs??? I will be keeping my gt350.
Of course you will. You'd be a fool to ditch a Boss 302 for a previous GT500, too. GT500s are specifically designed for the Clarksons of the world that need a supercharger to boost their ego. The GT500 is bunch of beefy parts added to a GT. The GT350 is a bunch of lightweight bespoke parts upgrading a GT with minimal weight gain. There's a line forming right now to be the first bonehead to pour $100k into heavy chrome wheels, faux Hurst automatic shift levers, and airbrushed eagles on chameleon paint on a GT500 for their Instagram story.
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Over 4000lbs??? I will be keeping my gt350.

Dropped nearly 80 lbs by switching to forged wheels from the OEM wheels.
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Old 08-25-2018, 09:48 PM   #56
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I don't care how fast it is, that weight... What, did Ford decide to go "retro" and switch to an iron block ala Terminator Cobra? Guess they gave up bringing the fight to GM in the ponycar wars, it's easier to pick on Dodge.
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I'm still dreaming about a 429...
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The Mustang isn’t exactly known for cutting-edge, innovative technology. Hell, Ford’s most famous performance car just got independent rear suspension back in 2015 with its sixth generation. Now, it’s looking like the latest Shelby GT500 might take another step into the future by axing the manual transmission option outright.

The 2020 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 Might Not Get a Manual Transmission At All
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Rumors have been swirling regarding the specs of the 2020 Ford Mustang GT500, which should have over 700 horsepower. More than even that, recent reports have shown that it is likely to be equipped with a dual-clutch automatic transmission. Now we’ve learned that this DCT transmission might be the only option with no manual offered at all.

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A source that is familiar with internal spec sheets has shared that the GT500 is currently listed with a seven-speed dual clutch transmission as its sole offering. Our source was not able to offer any additional information at this time regarding gear ratios or other specifics, but was able to share that the GT500 is unlikely to get the DCT out of the Ford GT, and will probably get a new gearbox from a different manufacturer.


We speculate that the transmission that is likely to end up in the GT500 is the Tremec TR-9007 as it is built for performance vehicles and can handle up to 664 lb-ft of torque. In their spec sheet, Tremec describes the transmission as having a modular design that can be used for rear wheel drive and all wheel drive applications that can handle up to a 10,000 RPM input speed.

A Ford spokesman declined to comment.

“Regarding the upcoming, Mustang Shelby GT500 model, we have not announced any powertrain specifics (engine or transmission) yet,” he said. More to come as we get closer to the market introduction.”


A video posted by Mustang6G a few months ago appeared to confirm the existence of this DCT, as the shifts sounded far too quick to be coming from a manual.

The exclusion of a manual is likely due to the fact that the Tremec TR-3160 from the GT350 would fall far short of the torque ratings that the 5.2-liter supercharged engine in the GT500 is likely to produce. The standard TR-3160 is rated to a max of 405 lb-ft, according to Tremec, and it had to be heavily revised to handle the 429 lb-ft of torque that produced by the 5.2-liter in the GT350.

Tremec does offer another six-speed in the from of the TR-6060, which is rated for 597 lb-ft of torque. The TR-6060 was used in the previous GT500 but since it was not a good match for revvy nature of the 5.2-liter in the GT350 it likely would not match the characteristics of the supercharged engine that is slated for the GT500.

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Old 09-01-2018, 04:37 PM   #59
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I'll be shocked if the next GT500 comes to market without a proper manual. I don't doubt that the DCT will be an option alongside it, though. Hopefully Ford steps up their transmission game and third parties a quality transmission rather than trying to build another one in China.
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The Hellcat has a manual, I’d be shocked if the GT500 didn’t.
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I'll be shocked if the next GT500 comes to market without a proper manual. I don't doubt that the DCT will be an option alongside it, though. Hopefully Ford steps up their transmission game and third parties a quality transmission rather than trying to build another one in China.
mt82 isnt a bad transmission. The shifter and clutch are the problems.
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Images have surfaced from the Ford dealer meeting this week which purportedly show the 2020 Mustang GT500 ahead of its debut.

We have no way of confirming these images are legitimate, but Automotive News reported on Sunday that Ford was holding a conference for its US dealer network sometime this week. They don’t look photoshopped to our eye, though, and the vehicle pictured has similar details to Shelby GT500 prototype vehicles that have been caught testing this year. They were first posted by Instagram user sinister_lifestyle, but are spreading around the social media platform.

The GT500 pictured has the familiar blue and white color scheme, along with a huge grill, massive front intakes, a Mustang GT350-style front splitter and a GT350 R-style rear wing.

Ford previously announced in a tweet that the 2019 Mustang GT500 at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit this upcoming January. The tweet also indicated the Hellcat and ZL1-rivalling muscle car would have “more than 700 hp projected.” It’s not completely clear what may be in store for the powertrain, but you can definitely expect some sort of forced induction V8 to show up.


The GT500 will make its official debut in a few months, so stay tuned for official details.

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Old 10-20-2018, 02:12 AM   #63
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Damn, she ugly...
Yep, GT 350 is best S550 Mustang.
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Old 10-20-2018, 01:14 PM   #64
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Yup, the 2019 North American International Auto Show is shaping up to be one of the most astounding shows in years. One of the most important debuts there will be that of the Mustang Shelby GT500. Yup, the 700+hp muscle car will finally make its debut at the 2019 NAIAS. Apart from all its glorified features, it will also carry two 3D printed parts. And I know which ones.

Two 3D Printed Parts For The Upcoming Shelby Mustang GT500 As it turns out (not yet officially, mind you, but I am confident of what I am about to write), the 2020 Shelby GT500 will have 3D printed brake line brackets.

Ford was not exactly proudly presenting all the 3D printed stuff. I mean, brake line brackets. Ford can do better. And people were expecting better. Maybe 3D printed brake discs…

Wait! 3D printed discs?

Well, get this - a few months back Ford filed a patent for the production of a 3D printed brake disc.

Specialized 3D Printed Tools Another example of the Ford 3D printing ingenuity is the decision to produce certain specialized tools for the production of the new Ford Ranger.

Ford says that new tools do, in fact, cut down on the Ranger's production time and considerably lowers the cost of production.

Sure, Ford only vaguely touched on by how much it all lowers the costs. The company has said - it cuts weeks of the Ranger’s production time. Whatever that exactly means.

Chinese-Bound F-150 Raptors Have some 3D-Printed Interior Components This is the truth. Ford, with its 90 different 3D printers all around the world, produces a number of parts for its vehicles.

One of the most incredible facts is that it also produces some interior parts for the Chinese version of the F-150 Raptor.

They are a bit shy to exactly point them all out, but we’ll find out soon enough, I believe.

Ford Filed A Patent For The Production Of The 3D Printed Brake Disc Only months ago, Ford actually filed a patent for the production of a 3D printed brake disc.

While I highly doubt that the technology has come that far to allow Ford to 3D print discs and actually install them on the new GT500, I can say that filing a patent says a lot about Ford's intentions.

Heck, not only did it file a patent for 3D printing a brake disc, but an aluminum brake disc at that. If you know anything about metals, you can probably imagine that an aluminum disc would be considerably lighter than a conventional one. More than 50 percent lighter. However, aluminum isn’t really good when it comes to coping with the heat. Its melting point is below 650 degrees Celsius. Brakes tend to get much hotter than that. The thing is that Ford aims to 3D print brake discs made of some alloy with aluminum as its main component.

This is what the inventors of the aluminum brake disc had to say about it:

“During the fusion metallurgical building up of the friction ring by using a laser deposition welding process or a 3D-printing process, the rapidly solidified aluminum alloy in powder form maintains its favorable mechanical properties. In this way, for example, a high level of thermal stability and a high level of abrasion resistance of the friction ring can be achieved so that an after-coating of the friction ring can be dispensed with.”

Ford Purchased the Third-ever 3D Printer Back In 1988 Ford is rather serious with its 3D printing intentions. The Advanced Manufacturing Center in Redford, Michigan is like a 3D printing paradise with 23 3D printers used for production and experimentation.

However, Ford was the first to jump on the 3D printing wagon. All the way back in 1988 that is.

It bought the third 3D printer ever produced. Then, the development of the integration of the 3D printing into its production process started taking shape sometime in the early 2000s. The best possible use of the 3D printing process isn’t exactly the mass production of parts for its cars, but actually the production of prototypes.

Apparently, using 3D printers saves hundreds of thousands for Ford with the production of prototype parts.

Ford’s Advanced Manufacturing Center in Redford, Michigan Ford invested $45 million in its Advanced Manufacturing Center in Redford. Apart from virtual reality research and software development, Ford tests 3D printing process and will mass 3D print parts for use on its cars.

Brake line brackets for the 2020 Shelby GT500 will come from this facility.

This facility, in fact, houses 23 3D printers. I believe you know that I am not talking about your run of the mill 3D printers that can print Viserion and Dragon figurines. These are industrial units costing tens of millions each. Some of them can actually use metals like titanium or aluminum for the printing process. Not only can they print some brackets, but in some time, I am sure we are going to see 3D printed body parts, intricate mechanical devices, and what not.

Having 23 3D printers isn’t enough, of course. So, Ford partnered with ten different 3D printing companies to achieve all of its 3D printing goals and speed up the 3D printing development. Ford Fans Could Purchase 3D Printed Scale Models Obviously, Ford wants to promote its 3D printing efforts the most.

Back in 2015, just after its deal with Carbon 3D, Ford announced that you could actually buy their 3D printed cars.

Well, they have not been produced by Carbon 3D. The production was outsourced. Despite the bureaucracy behind it all, true intentions are obvious - Ford wants to be one of the leaders in the segment. Selling efforts did not go that well, but the intentions were sound. I am quite sure that a similar deal could be struck with the new 2020 Shelby GT500.

Cutting Costs
Additive manufacturing is an “official industry standard term (ASTM F2792) for all applications of the technology. It is defined as the process of joining materials to make objects from 3D model data, usually layer upon layer, as opposed to subtractive manufacturing methodologies.”

Obviously, a shrewd mind can think that this dramatically lowers potential material loses, speeds up the process from development to production, almost fully dispenses with the specialized tool development and production, and lowers the costs of the produced parts.

Harold Sears, Technical Expert for rapid manufacturing and additive manufacturing technologies at Ford Motor says “Ford has really been an early adopter of these technologies. We are here to integrate this technology more in manufacturing.”

Obviously, it is happening. How better to promote the whole thing than by producing parts for the royalty of the Shelby GT500!?

Final Thoughts
With the introduction of the 2020 Shelby GT Ford Mustang, Ford will greet us with the ultimate expression of its current philosophy. Sure, the Ford GT is an astounding supercar, but the Shelby GT500 is really what all of us are waiting for.

With 700+ horsepower, the 2020 Shelby GT500 is an ultimate Hellcat fighting toy.

Yet, with all that potential, Ford is looking to cash in on some other things - 3D printing seems to be one link in that important car production chain. Better get used to it.
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Automakers have a long history of auctioning off special cars at major auctions, and the proceeds generally go to a worthy charity. That familiar scenario is set to repeat as Ford puts the very first production Shelby GT500 up for auction at the 2019 Barrett-Jackson event on January 18, 2019, in Arizona. That's just four days after the car's planned debut at the rapidly approaching Detroit Auto Show.

Ford hasn't yet given up all the details for its latest super-powered pony car. We know it will have more than 700 horsepower, and that those horses will from a supercharged V8 engine. Rumors point to a version of the 5.2-liter engine found in the GT350, minus that car's flat-plane crankshaft, topped with a 2.65-liter Eaton supercharger that pumps out 12 psi of boost. We've heard reports of both six-speed manual and seven-speed dual-clutch gearboxes routing all that power to the rear wheels.

The winner of Lot 3,008 will get the chance to option out their GT500 any way they see fit. But they won't actually take possession of the car for a while – Ford says the 2020 Shelby GT500 will start filtering out to the public in the fall of 2019.

Ford says it donates more than $2 million annually to the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation, which is the charity that will receive proceeds from the GT500 bearing VIN 001. The automaker has contributed a total of $60 million to the JDRF over the last 35 years.

Toyota plans to auction off the very first 2020 Supra at Barrett-Jackson, too. Proceeds of that sale will be donated to the American Heart Association and the Bob Woodruff Foundation. Here's hoping both of these special vehicles bring in a healthy amount for their respective charities.


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Proceeds will go to the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation


Automakers have a long history of auctioning off special cars at major auctions, and the proceeds generally go to a worthy charity. That familiar scenario is set to repeat as Ford puts the very first production Shelby GT500 up for auction at the 2019 Barrett-Jackson event on January 18, 2019, in Arizona. That's just four days after the car's planned debut at the rapidly approaching Detroit Auto Show.

Ford hasn't yet given up all the details for its latest super-powered pony car. We know it will have more than 700 horsepower, and that those horses will from a supercharged V8 engine. Rumors point to a version of the 5.2-liter engine found in the GT350, minus that car's flat-plane crankshaft, topped with a 2.65-liter Eaton supercharger that pumps out 12 psi of boost. We've heard reports of both six-speed manual and seven-speed dual-clutch gearboxes routing all that power to the rear wheels.

The winner of Lot 3,008 will get the chance to option out their GT500 any way they see fit. But they won't actually take possession of the car for a while – Ford says the 2020 Shelby GT500 will start filtering out to the public in the fall of 2019.

Ford says it donates more than $2 million annually to the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation, which is the charity that will receive proceeds from the GT500 bearing VIN 001. The automaker has contributed a total of $60 million to the JDRF over the last 35 years.

Toyota plans to auction off the very first 2020 Supra at Barrett-Jackson, too. Proceeds of that sale will be donated to the American Heart Association and the Bob Woodruff Foundation. Here's hoping both of these special vehicles bring in a healthy amount for their respective charities.


https://www.autoblog.com/amp/2018/12...rrett-jackson/

The more interesting part to this for me is the announcement about the 2020 Supra being auctioned.
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Images of an apparent brochure have surfaced on Facebook before spreading to forums like Mustang6G and sites like Jalopnik. We can’t confirm the brochure’s authenticity, but it looks like the real deal as the pictures match up with previous images that leaked from a dealer presentation last year.

While we already knew the range-topping Mustang would have a supercharged V8 that produces more than 700 hp (522 kW / 709 PS), the pamphlet reveals the engine is a 5.2-liter cross-plane crank. This could be a modified version of the Shelby GT350’s 5.2-liter flat-plane crank V8.



The only gearbox mentioned is a seven-speed dual-clutch transmission (DCT) from Tremec which drives the rear wheels. Speaking of which, the GT500 will ride on 20-inch aluminum wheels wrapped in specially-developed Michelin Pilot 4S tires. The wheels are backed up by a high-performance Brembo braking system with six-piston calipers and 420mm discs up front, while four-piston calipers and 370mm discs are found out back.

That’s just the tip of the performance iceberg as the brochure suggests the GT500 will also have a MagneRide adaptive damping system, a carbon composite driveshaft and a lightweight magnesium strut tower brace. Buyers will also find engine, transmission and differential oil coolers as well as a “high trail knuckle for improved steering response.”



The performance upgrades are also visible on the outside as the GT500 has an aggressive front splitter with prominent Shelby badging. Designers also installed a modified front fascia, mesh grille inserts and a massive rear wing. Other notable highlights a unique diffuser and a ventilated hood with a removable rain tray.

Buyers looking for something more aggressive will reportedly be able to order a Carbon Fiber Track Pack that appears to include 20-inch carbon fiber wheels, a carbon fiber rear wing and carbon fiber interior trim. The package also features leather and suede Recaro front seats and the removal of the rear seats.

Speaking of the cabin, drivers can expect to a 12-inch digital instrument cluster and a familiar SYNC 3 infotainment system. There could also be a Technology Package which adds a 12-speaker Bang and Olufsen premium audio system, GPS navigation and a blind spot information system with rear cross traffic alert.

The brochure goes onto say buyers will receive a complimentary “Track Attack high-performance driving school session.” Designed to teach owners how to get the most out of their car, the session will include classroom learning and on-track instruction.

The 2020 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 will be unveiled tomorrow, so stay tuned for full details.
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It is the biggest snake yet. Literally. When the 2020 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 goes on sale in the fall you won't miss it. The satin-finish snake up front, on the back, and on the sides has grown substantially. It's fitting for the new GT500, which promises to be the quickest and best-handling to date.

Under the hood is a hand-built, supercharged 5.2-liter cross-plane V-8 as opposed to the naturally aspirated flat-plane-crank 526-hp, 429-lb-ft 5.2-liter in the GT350 about to hit showrooms. In addition to forced induction supercharging, the GT500 has a new Tremec twin-clutch seven-speed automatic transmission—no manual for 2020-and a new rotary gearshift.

Engineers tell us the GT500 will easily exceed 700 horsepower and 600 lb-ft of torque. Ford is not releasing exact numbers yet. The car does not go on sale until fall and engineers continue to work on squeezing out every bit of power. In the past they have released specs early and had to revise them when they coaxed more from the powertrain. They fully expect better numbers with this one, as well, by fall.

Quick enough to need pins


The car will do 0-to-to mph in about 3.5 seconds and the quarter mile in less than 11 seconds. It is so much quicker than the GT350 that it needs hood pins to keep the massively vented composite hood locked down, says Carl Widmann, Mustang chief engineer. The front fenders are also made of composite and are widened considerably to accommodate the wider tires, but the rear quarters are unchanged, which allows the tires to peek out a bit (one of many things that make it impossible to homologate the GT500 for Europe or Japan).



The engine had to be lighter and more compact to avoid a huge dome in the hood impeding the driver's vision.

The last GT500 (2013-'14) had a 5.8-liter V-8 that generated 662 hp and 631 lb-ft of torque.



This time around, "it has to not only go straight but also turn," said Carl Widmann, Mustang chief engineer. "It has to take the power in the corner and put it down on a track."
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I'm not sure the point of having a "press release" of a car without the stats being hammered out yet. Figure they would go hand in hand. I get they don't want someone to eek them out by 5 HP prior to the release but come on.

I'm hoping to have my 19 GT paid off by the end of this model cycle. If I do this will be its replacement. Heck if my 2k rattle gets a by back I'd be interested in making up the difference cost wise without ADM.
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I'm not sure the point of having a "press release" of a car without the stats being hammered out yet. Figure they would go hand in hand. I get they don't want someone to eek them out by 5 HP prior to the release but come on.

I'm hoping to have my 19 GT paid off by the end of this model cycle. If I do this will be its replacement. Heck if my 2k rattle gets a by back I'd be interested in making up the difference cost wise without ADM.
Probably 95% ready, just waiting on EPA/CARB testing #'s to verify output / see if there is a little more wiggle room.
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2020 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 – A Super Snake Without a Stick
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The #savethemanuals crowd may weep, but the Ford fanboys will still rejoice. The 2020 Ford Mustang GT500 is here. It’s loud, it’s powerful, it looks cool, and it has no clutch pedal.

That’s right. The more than 700 horsepower expected from the 5.2-liter supercharged V-8 will funnel through a seven-speed dual-clutch automatic transmission from Tremec. Drivers will take back manual control via paddles.

That doesn’t mean a manual won’t be available later. Not to mention, there’s a lot more to this super-snake story.

That horsepower number above makes it clear that Ford has Hellcats in its sight, along with the Chevrolet Camaro ZL1. Key performance components include a cross-plane crankshaft, forged connecting rods, 16.5-inch Brembo brakes with six-piston calipers, a carbon-fiber driveshaft, MagneRide suspension dampers, high-performance Michelin tires that Ford says were specifically designed for this ‘Stang, and available Pilot Sport 4S tires. The supercharger is a Roots-type unit. The car rides on 20-inch wheels.

Buyers also get line-lock, launch control, and track apps.

2020 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500

The front end is definitely more assertive than what’s seen on the lower-trim ‘Stangs. Other aero bits include a new front air damn, an adjustable carbon-fiber splitter, a functional slatted hood vent, larger air openings, a different grille, and a front splitter.

If that’s not enough, buyers can tick a box to receive a package containing carbon-fiber wheels, exposed carbon fiber on the rear wing and dash, Recaro leather seats with suede, and rear-seat delete. A high-capacity oil pan and an adjustable exhaust are also part of the Shelby mystique, along with hood pins.

Available drive modes include drag and track, along with weather. Ford also says the chassis is race-tuned, which is not surprising, as this isn’t just intended as a drag-strip missile. It longs to be a true track star.

Ford claims a 0-60 time of mid-three seconds, a quarter-mile run in under 11 seconds, and gear shifts in under 100 milliseconds.

2020 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500

Everyday amenities include a rear-view camera, Sync, in-car wi-fi, and a 12-inch digital instrument cluster.

As TTAC’s resident Mustang fanboy, my initial “hot take” is that the car looks bad-ass up close, but it’s weird to not see a manual-transmission shifter. I get the reasoning — no human can shift as fast at the DCT, and it may be tough to find a manual that can handle the torque this engine is likely to generate. Still, it’s jarring to see a Mustang like this with an automatic-trans shifter that looks yanked from an Explorer.

More importantly, Dodge and Chevrolet will be forced to take notice. Prepare for an onslaught of buff-book comparos. No matter which car wins, the Shelby appears ready for battle.


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I'm not sure the point of having a "press release" of a car without the stats being hammered out yet. Figure they would go hand in hand. I get they don't want someone to eek them out by 5 HP prior to the release but come on.

I'm hoping to have my 19 GT paid off by the end of this model cycle. If I do this will be its replacement. Heck if my 2k rattle gets a by back I'd be interested in making up the difference cost wise without ADM.
Price (probably north of 100k after ADM, options and taxes) and weight (4200lbs+) are deal breakers for me. If within 100 lbs of the GT350 with the power increase then maybe.
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Price (probably north of 100k after ADM, options and taxes) and weight (4200lbs+) are deal breakers for me. If within 100 lbs of the GT350 with the power increase then maybe.
Its possible to be close to the gt350r / track pack in weight. Essentially they are adding a blower, and cooling.
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What is Ford thinking putting that rotary shifter straight from a Fusion into a car like this?
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