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Old 08-30-2022, 02:32 AM   #1
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Rivian Automotive Inc. reported revenue tallied $364 million in the second quarter while the EV maker's net loss widened to $1.71 billion, from $580 million a year earlier.

The startup, headquartered in Irvine, Calif., said it's received 98,000 pre-orders for the R1T pickup and R1S SUV. Rivian also has an initial order for 100,000 EDV electric delivery vans from Amazon, which received the first batch of the trucks last month.

But Rivian warned that it now expects to post a wider annual adjusted loss before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization of $5.45 billion, compared with $4.75 billion previously.

The EV startup burned through $1.2 billion in the quarter, leaving it with $14.9 billion in cash - enough to cover the $5 billion earmarked to open a second U.S. assembly plant, outside Atlanta, in 2025, the company said.

To help conserve cash as output ramps up, Rivian said it has delayed some programs to 2023. Capital expenses in the quarter fell to $359 million, from $431 million a year earlier, when the company was readying an Illinois assembly plant for the start of production.

The company said Thursday that the R1 series of premium pickups and SUVs is not likely to benefit from tax incentives in the new energy and climate bill passed by the U.S. Senate.

But Rivian could qualify for subsidies of up to $40,000 per vehicle for large electric commercial vans similar to the ones it is building for Amazon, CEO R.J. Scaringe told analysts on a conference call after the release of quarterly earnings.

Scaringe said Rivian's smaller, less expensive R2 line of consumer vehicles, due out in 2025, should also qualify for tax credits because those will have a domestic battery supply chain.

Rivian faced scrutiny over operating costs, capital expenditures and cash burn ahead of the release of its second-quarter earnings after the market close on Thursday.

Rivian increased vehicle deliveries in the second quarter to 4,467, from 1,227 in the first quarter, and assembled 4,401 vehicles last quarter compared with 2,553 in the January-March period. The automaker said it has been building mostly R1T pickups but recently announced the summertime launch for customer deliveries of the R1S.

Rivian reiterated its production forecast of 25,000 vehicles this year and has been implementing cost-cutting measures to realign spending priorities. The company's Illinois plant has capacity to build 150,000 vehicles a year.
Last month, Rivan announced a 6 percent reduction in its work force, which was at about 14,000 before the announcement. Rivian said it wants to optimize spending on increasing output and developing the R2 platform for the Georgia plant.

Market analysts have been recently focused on how much money Rivian is burning through because of its relatively limited deliveries and rising costs due to current and future expansion plans.


"Rising sales of battery-powered vehicles amid heightening climate concerns are expected to buoy Rivian's second-quarter 2022 results," Zacks Equity Research said in a note prior to the release of the company's latest earnings results on Thursday. "On the flip side, Rivian being in the nascent stage of development has been burning cash."
Rivian's operating expenses in the first quarter totaled about $1.1 billion, up from $410 million in the year-earlier period, Zacks said.

"Massive operating costs in the second quarter, stemming from advanced product development activities, are likely to have dented margins," Zacks said. "Also, high [capital expenditures] to support additional manufacturing capacity and infrastructure is likely to have clipped cash flows."

Earlier this week, Bloomberg Intelligence noted Rivian's rising production on better management of supply chain constraints. But it also highlighted the automaker's huge cash needs. Rivian faces competition in the EV pickup market from Ford, Tesla and General Motors.

"Though the company has a high cash balance, it may need more liquidity in 2025, earlier than it plans, as competition from Ford, Tesla and GM speeds up," Bloomberg Intelligence said. "Rivian may burn around $19 billion in cash through 2024 as it expands operations, while shareholders Amazon and Ford don't appear to be capital sources."

Both Amazon and Ford Motor Co. have reported billions of dollars in paper losses on their Rivian investments this year.

Ford launched the F-150 Lightning electric pickup in the spring, after Rivian's started production in fall 2021. Tesla plans to launch the Cybertruck in mid-2023, and Chevrolet has said production of the Silverado EV will start in spring 2023.

The company's latest quarterly revenue tally -- $364 million -- beat estimates; analysts expected $337.5 million, according to IBES data from Refinitiv.
Reuters contributed to this report.
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Old 08-30-2022, 03:02 AM   #2
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Just a reminder that Tesla saw a $2.72B 12 month loss in 2018 before their investments finally turned around. That was a year after they had started to move the Model 3. Now they post a $9.5B 12 month profit.

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$19B in the next 18 months is pretty intense.. but they're gearing up to build and deliver a ton of delivery vans.
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Old 08-30-2022, 01:55 PM   #4
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Real s***, the only guy with the Rivian in my small country town, i've seen that thing on the back of a flatbed-tow 4 times now.
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Old 08-30-2022, 02:26 PM   #5
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I've seen 2 separate car haulers moving 5-6 of them around the Charlotte area but only 1 ever actually driving. Maybe they can survive the cash drain phase, but many of these EV startups seriously underestimate the true costs to setting up the structure needed to manufacture, sell and support at an OEM level.
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