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Old 07-11-2018, 10:31 AM   #901
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If your fuel tables are off, they're off and you need to fix that. If you've tuned it properly and removed the OL delay, it'll follow your OL fuel table.

For AFR, if you don't know how to answer it, I recommend getting some dyno time and learning what works.

If you go higher in load than you are scaled for, it will just follow the last load column until you go under that load.
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Old 07-11-2018, 08:40 PM   #902
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If your fuel tables are off, they're off and you need to fix that. If you've tuned it properly and removed the OL delay, it'll follow your OL fuel table.

For AFR, if you don't know how to answer it, I recommend getting some dyno time and learning what works.

If you go higher in load than you are scaled for, it will just follow the last load column until you go under that load.
Understood!

How can I, until I get a tactrix, find out where my fueling and load map stops with the stock unmodified ROM?

If my LV only goes to 1.70 load and 5,700 rpm does that mean that's as high as my map has tables for?

So anything above that and there's no guarantee what my A/F is other than what my 02 sensor says?
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:07 PM   #903
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You could learn quite a bit by data logging, but that won't tell you about cells you're not actually hitting, and you need a cable for that anyway. You really need to pull the ROM to know what's in it.
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:54 PM   #904
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You could learn quite a bit by data logging, but that won't tell you about cells you're not actually hitting, and you need a cable for that anyway. You really need to pull the ROM to know what's in it.
Oh I am datalogging and have plans to get a tactrix cable and download my ROM asap I just can't afford it right now. Im logging with the btSsm AP and a vagcom cable and have already learned quite a bit.

Now I need a wideband and downpipe and lots more reading you've wrote on RomRaider.

Life is trying to kick my ass right now with a lot of family stuff going on that's draining my bank and my mental stability lol.

Hopefully soon I can finish up with the hardware and start jumping into the software side a lot more than ever before!
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Old 09-02-2018, 06:57 PM   #905
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Can you add a MBC to EBC if you already have a good tune and cannot access the map to change WGDC? What would happen? Just to limit flutter on EWG...


I have a Pro-tune map (SD) on Cobb AP. After reading the thread, it was pretty funny.. I just thought I'd ask if anyone has any input on what I'm trying to do? I don't want to mess with my tune. Until I get a couple more mods and need a retune...I'll probably just get my EWG plumbed back into my exhaust.. I just want to hear my motor I am Curious :0


I love the work my tuner has done. I am not trying to disrespect anyone in anyway BTW.

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Old 09-02-2018, 07:37 PM   #906
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Can you add a MBC to EBC if you already have a good tune and cannot access the map to change WGDC? What would happen? Just to limit flutter on EWG...


I have a Pro-tune map (SD) on Cobb AP. After reading the thread, it was pretty funny.. I just thought I'd ask if anyone has any input on what I'm trying to do? I don't want to mess with my tune. Until I get a couple more mods and need a retune...I'll probably just get my EWG plumbed back into my exhaust.. I just want to hear my motor I am Curious :0


I love the work my tuner has done. I am not trying to disrespect anyone in anyway BTW.
yes but it would need to be set lower than your current peak boost level to do anything. It would be a waste without being tuned for. Imo, its more of a failsafe.
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Old 09-02-2018, 07:42 PM   #907
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I think I understand it now lol. I'm just gonna leave it alone. I love how it's setup and don't want to change it. I've got some other mods to do before getting another tune anyways. It actually sounds pretty mean when out in the open. Just city driving sucks because everything echos. Thanks for the quick response man.
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Old 09-02-2018, 09:52 PM   #908
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I think I understand it now lol. I'm just gonna leave it alone. I love how it's setup and don't want to change it. I've got some other mods to do before getting another tune anyways. It actually sounds pretty mean when out in the open. Just city driving sucks because everything echos. Thanks for the quick response man.
I tried it. You need to set wgdc to 100% and cap the VTA off the solenoid. Otherwise, it spools like ****. Even if you do set the MBC at or below the boost limit.
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Old 09-02-2018, 09:56 PM   #909
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I tried it. You need to set wgdc to 100% and cap the VTA off the solenoid. Otherwise, it spools like ****. Even if you do set the MBC at or below the boost limit.

I didnít think it would work correct without some kind of adjustment. I tried to PM ya but itís blocked I guess. Thanks for the info. I appricate the quick response! Suby ppl are awesome
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Old 09-02-2018, 10:02 PM   #910
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I didnít think it would work correct without some kind of adjustment. I tried to PM ya but itís blocked I guess. Thanks for the info. I appricate the quick response! Suby ppl are awesome
No problem. Imo it's one of the best mods I did. Rock solid, super quick spool, and.... That's it.

Worth having the adjustment made to your tune. Who is your tuner? Maybe they will make the couple of adjustments for you. They don't need your car on a Dyno or anything like it..... Real simple 5 minute deal.
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Old 09-02-2018, 10:32 PM   #911
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Clark. I need to get some bigger injectors before he will make any adjustments. I can ask him though I suppose Iíve got romraider and access tuner and all that but I donít really want to mess with speed density🧐 As much reading on all these guys posts over the years, ya think ya would be able to figure it all out. One mistake and youíre rebuilding a block My car just sits in the garage cuz itís so hot most of the year to even do anything tuning wise. Itís kinda depressing lol

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Old 09-02-2018, 10:49 PM   #912
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Clark. I need to get some bigger injectors before he will make any adjustments. I can ask him though I suppose Iíve got romraider and access tuner and all that but I donít really want to mess with speed density🧐 As much reading on all these guys posts over the years, ya think ya would be able to figure it all out. One mistake and your rebuilding a block My car just sits in the garage cuz itís so hot most of the year to even do anything tuning wise. Itís kinda depressing lol
I can tell you the exact changes to make. I'm SD too. Someone else can confirm my settings to make you feel confident. It's literally two tables/adjustments. Forget about changing boost just set it up so the MBC is controlling peak, which you can set just below your tuned peak, by say...... .25 psi.

That will eliminate your flutter and spool you quicker
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