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Old 08-24-2013, 06:36 PM   #1
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Default Klang!!! Todays $100 noise. Whiteline KLC19

First off. This is not a part bashing post. Just a fun little FYI.

So today I pulled into a shopping center driveway while running and errand and was greeted by a huge "klang" sound. My friend says "was that your muffler". I reply, "ish, I think I just broke a swaybar mount". Park in the parking lot, look underneath, and swaybar mounts are fine, but my swaybar endlink is sheared in half.

I've had these endlinks almost since I bought the car new. They have over 120,000 miles on them vs. a variety of swaybars. This year alone the've been through about 10 autocross events. This is a california car, but got driven to the snow quite a bit in its first 5-years. Whiteline has a 2-year warranty, they outlasted that easily. I think this product has now long since been upgraded, but worked great for me for 10+ years.

Right now I'm running 22mm adjustable whiteline swaybars front and rear. I also have ground control coils with 330lb front springs and 300lb rear springs. The car does usually pick up a wheel entering and leaving driveways at an angle.

Kartboy endlinks now on order....






as you can see the swaybar combination (with endlinks balances the car pretty well)

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Old 08-24-2013, 08:14 PM   #2
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I'm impressed you got that much life out of them. I snapped one years ago, running similarly not-that-aggressive sway bars.
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Old 08-24-2013, 09:12 PM   #3
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You got your money's worth.

Nice.
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Old 08-24-2013, 09:21 PM   #4
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Your endlink picked a good time to fail. Whiteline has a BOGO sale on endlinks. Just buy from an authorized dealer.
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Old 08-24-2013, 11:03 PM   #5
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Basically my suspension is a mix of Whiteline (ALK now replaced by offset bushing, roll center corrector, front and rear swaybars), Subaru (JDM lower control arms, rear lateral links), Megan (rear trailing arms), Race Comp Engineering (front camber plates), KYB (struts) and Ground Control (coil over sleeves) and much more.

Whiteline has always sold me what I consider great parts. Their stuff has always been reliable and performed well, if there has been any problems they have quickly replaced them.

I have a ton of Kartboy stuff on my car (Shifter, Shift knob, Battery tie down strap, Shift Bushings, transmission bushings, crankshaft pulley, pitch mount and more). Both Kartboy and I are in CA so my experience is that cheap shipping will have new swaybar endlinks in my hand by Monday (ordered Saturday)

I might have to autocross on Sunday with one or more stock end links. Hope they hold up against my Hankook Z214s.... else I might be trying some new rearswaybarless setup.
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Old 08-24-2013, 11:11 PM   #6
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I had the exact same thing happen to mine. WL was awesome and offered to replace them for free even though they had 110k miles on them. I offered to pay the difference (~$40) and they sent me a set of the newer aluminum ones instead. Yay Whiteline.
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Old 08-25-2013, 03:23 PM   #7
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You can see the rust at the top of the break indicating a hairline fracture which eventually broke. I had really old (02) whiteline/mrt endlinks and the bushings finally fell apart this year (literally). They are an old version so there were no replacement bushing kits. I just put in Kartboys front and rear and they seem to be good plus they are rebuildable. Don't forget to order the Kartboy spacer kit for the front!
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Old 08-25-2013, 07:09 PM   #8
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You can see the rust at the top of the break indicating a hairline fracture which eventually broke. I had really old (02) whiteline/mrt endlinks and the bushings finally fell apart this year (literally). They are an old version so there were no replacement bushing kits. I just put in Kartboys front and rear and they seem to be good plus they are rebuildable. Don't forget to order the Kartboy spacer kit for the front!
I was wondering about that little brown looking area of the break. It is really close to the weld in the loop. I thought there might have been some damage from the welding which eventually created a stress concentration point where the link broke. Long story short.... 120,000 miles, can't complain too much.
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Old 08-26-2013, 03:01 PM   #9
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I was just on Whiteline's site this morning and noticed that the current version of the KLC19 no longer has the bushing loops welded back onto the bar. Mine obviously broke very close to the weld, the steel was probably weakened by the welding.
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:47 PM   #10
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Holy Crap!!! I had sent Whiteline an e-mail about the broken swaybar link this morning. I just got an e-mail back saying they were replacing the part!!! In the process I found my receipt.. I bought the endlinks September 2001.... That... is why Whiteline is awesome. 12 year old part, replaced no questions asked.

Buy Whiteline stuff. They rock.
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Old 08-30-2013, 06:10 PM   #11
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And today's dilema...

Kartboy endlinks that I ordered when I broke the Whiteline part and Whiteline Endlinks that they sent me as a replacement under warrenty (12 years later!!) both arrived today.

Which to install? It seems like Whiteline has addressed the issue that caused my part to fail. The Whiteline pieces are gold (so its got that going for it). The Kartboy pieces are aluminum and look much more beefy.

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Old 08-30-2013, 06:43 PM   #12
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Run the Whitelines since they took care of you.
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Old 08-30-2013, 11:44 PM   #13
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Run the Whitelines since they took care of you.
Honestly, I'm kind of leaning that way... The car did handle pretty well with the old whiteline stuff.
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Old 08-31-2013, 12:17 AM   #14
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It's great that Whiteline took care of you, but the Kartboy endlinks are clearly a better/stronger product.
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Old 08-31-2013, 12:38 AM   #15
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And today's dilema...

Kartboy endlinks that I ordered when I broke the Whiteline part and Whiteline Endlinks that they sent me as a replacement under warrenty (12 years later!!) both arrived today.

Which to install? It seems like Whiteline has addressed the issue that caused my part to fail. The Whiteline pieces are gold (so its got that going for it). The Kartboy pieces are aluminum and look much more
Run the parts that have a tighter tolerance between sleeve and bolt.
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Old 08-31-2013, 11:13 PM   #16
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i will say this

whiteline customer service is the STANDARD OF THE INDUSTRY

i have been here a LONG time and whiteline has ALWAYS had THE BEST customer service

My rear swaybar was bought new in early 2002 for my 02 wrx and is now on my 06 wrx.
and I have MANY whiteline parts on my car and will continue to buy them for just this reason.

If you have an issue with a whiteline part, they WILL take care of you.


ALSO....Tom at Kartboy will take care of you, too.

and if my car was ever to see offroading....id likely run those whiteline links as a lil more flex would be good there, if NOT...then run the kartboy links
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Old 01-15-2020, 02:03 AM   #17
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Reviving a dead thread,

Last two autocross events... I #[email protected] sucked. I thought it was because I was on very old slicks. Today I crawled under the car and discovered that I broke the endlink again. Since I still had the Kartboy part in the basement, I threw it on.

It is interesting to me that the Kartboy piece is so much shorter than the OEM piece and the Whiteline piece.

I'm at about 190,000 miles now. The replacement Whiteline piece didnt last as long as the original part (but the original part spent about 80,000 miles fighting stock springs, not my 300lb/inch setup.

I'm going to reach out to whiteline again and see what they say this time.


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Old 02-04-2020, 09:54 PM   #18
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Another update.

Ran the Kartboy parts two weekends ago at an autocross event.

I finally got my girlfriend to drive the car. I won SM, she came in 4th in Novice class (eff PAX).

The Kartboy endlinks are SILENT. No bushing squeaks at all.

I had the suspension dialed way back so it would be easier to drive for my girlfriend, that said, it drove a lot better than when it had the busted endlink (duh).

I also reached out to Whiteline again. Once again, their customer service, on point and amazing they are replacing the parts again, this time with their more modern version. Just a reminder, The original part was bought 190,000 miles ago. I hate to say it, but when the Whiteline stuff shows up, I'm going to remove the Kartboy stuff and put the Whiteline parts on.

Yes I recognize that a swaybar endlink probably shouldnt break. That said, most bushings would wear out in 190,000 miles. I am so impressed that Whiteline so vigorously stands behind their products. Like someone said, customer service- standard of the industry.
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That said, most bushings would wear out in 190,000 miles.
I think the fact that you live in California has more to do with your bushing lasting so long versus them being the best thing since sliced bread.
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Old 02-05-2020, 11:18 PM   #20
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I think the fact that you live in California has more to do with your bushing lasting so long versus them being the best thing since sliced bread.
I also make sure to keep them well greased. That probably helps.
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Old 02-15-2020, 08:35 PM   #21
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I would still run those Kartboys. I like whiteline and all but those kartboys are indestructible.
I’m running whiteline sways, bushings and roll center and this is my 4th sway bar from them that is completely rusted and they won’t replace it. Not sure I’d ever buy whiteline ever again.
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