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Old 01-10-2008, 09:22 PM   #1
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Default Does the OEM 6 Disc Changer have an AUX input?

I have an 02 Bug Eye wanting to get my radio fixed since its broken, not really wanting anything fancy but getting an oem radio from a newer Scooby but im curious do they come with an AUX input to play my iPod? And will the new radios fit the 02? Thanks!
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Old 01-10-2008, 09:44 PM   #2
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only the 07 and yes it will fit in your 02. However the Aux input is a separate piece and you will have to find a place to mount it (i'm not familiar with an 02 interior but in the 07's theres a spot next to the cig lighter for it).
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Old 01-11-2008, 02:10 AM   #3
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im selling my factory 07 wrx limited cd played with the aux input built in, the piece goes where your ash tray is so its really slick, i have a new deck so i cant use it and im selling it for 250 shipped let me know
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Old 01-11-2008, 02:16 AM   #4
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Well technically there is an aux input, its a DIN plug on the back of many of the factory Subaru radios.

It'll take about <$20 (including shipping) for you to buy a DIN cable, and some <insert connector type> along with about 3 minutes worth of soldering, to finish off the cable.

There is also the possibility of the Jazzy Engineering add on board as well. Much more elegant.. http://www.jazzyengineering.com/


I'd say, people selling their '07 with aux input are asking too much, when you can get a <$100 older unit, and add either the DIY cable, or buy the Jazzy kit.

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Old 01-11-2008, 03:19 AM   #5
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Yeah I had an Alpine with full speed I POD cotrol for less than 200 with the cable and it was awesome. I think they're cheaper now and they also make the speakers sound a little better too. You should look into one cuz I got tired of trying to find and change music using the ipod while driving. Much easier to use the deck.
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Old 01-11-2008, 03:36 PM   #6
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Yeah I had an Alpine with full speed I POD cotrol for less than 200 with the cable and it was awesome. I think they're cheaper now and they also make the speakers sound a little better too. You should look into one cuz I got tired of trying to find and change music using the ipod while driving. Much easier to use the deck.

Yup, when you can buy an aftermarket headunit that has either an aux input, or bundled with an actual ipod connecter for <$200 (ebay) people wanting to sell their Subaru Headunits for over $150 are crazy. Esp the 2007 models going for some $200+ most times.

I mean, more power, better media support, better sound quality, system expansion options, ipod integration, and more... for less than $200, it's almost a no brainer to not buy an OEM radio.. But if given an OEM radio for free or less than $80, and money is really tight, the DIY cable or Jazzy kit is compelling.
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Old 01-11-2008, 03:46 PM   #7
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OEM Radio is better than ANY cheep aftermarket radio!!!!!!! GET THE OEM. Why? 6-disc changer baby! Each disk holds 100 MP3 songs, why do you need an IPOD (lame) when your player can play MP3 already? But if you real really really have to have your IPOD there is a connector in the back of your radio (satelite ready connector) that can also control your ipod! Mini DIN can not control you IPOD. The Satelite ready connector is the same connector used to control the IPOD. IE: it can show the ipod info on the head unit and control playback.

Aftermarket radios dont come with 6-disc changers! OEM FTW!

Also minDIN is not a digital connector its analog WEAK SAUCE!
Use the Satelite Ready connector for DIGITAL SIGNAL from your ipod or satelite radio.
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Old 01-11-2008, 04:06 PM   #8
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Stilo,
MP3's are already compressed audio files, thus the quality is nothing fantastic to begin with. Then you have to face the factory EQ built into each and every OEM radio. It sucks. And note, nothing coming out of your ipod is digital, it's all analog.

An ipod or <insert MP3 player here> is generally something you can navigate via touch to skip songs or fast forward, I did this all the time, with my factory radio. If you do need to look at the screen, it's pretty easy to fumble around to get to what you want. But I'm a play and skip kind of guy, and idn't browse for specific songs.

As for quality of "cheep," headunits.. I can buy Kenwood, Sony, and JVC units for $80-$160 that all can play MP3's, and I will be are better than the OEM in terms of SQ, power output, and expandability. Many of them have ipod options or aux in's.

You're argument is moot, and weak sauce.
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Old 01-11-2008, 06:46 PM   #9
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MP3's are already compressed audio files, thus the quality is nothing fantastic to begin with. Then you have to face the factory EQ built into each and every OEM radio. It sucks. And note, nothing coming out of your ipod is digital, it's all analog.

You're argument is moot, and weak sauce.

Oh geeze..........

MP3's with a bit rate of 300kbs are the same as CD and the human ear cannot tell the difrence. You probably dont understand what kb means to make a statement like that.

The factory EQ? I think you mean the sound spectrum frequency range. Remember that the factory unit is made by Clarion. If you dont like Clarion thats upto you but Clarion is known for make 20hz to 20khz.

Its all analog comming out of the Ipod? Obviously you dont know what a CNET connector is because you probably only use mini DIN.

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...EA1251B+-.html

Everything you said was wrong and misinformative.

Go buy your Kenwood, Sony, and JVC for $80-$160 so i can laugh at you. CLARION FTW.

If your radio is Satelite Ready- you have the CNET, get this.

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Old 01-11-2008, 07:15 PM   #10
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Oh boy..

the iPod dock connector outputs line level audio in analog. Pins 1-4 deal with ground and L/R channels. The additional pins on the connector are for things like controls, power, video, and usb/firewire connectivity. The line level audio is simply being passed through and played through the radio.

Clarion, Alpine, and many others OEM radios for many manufacturers. Alpine being the #1 OEM for nav systems. Your blanket statement that because it's Clarion doesn't really prove anything other than it comes from a reliable brand...

But there is a factory loudness circuit that tapers off as you turn the radio volume up, that was the case on two different model subaru's I've owned and according to this forum, it hasn't changed (thus prompting for people to use things like cleansweep and 3.sixty to overcome that if you want to keep the OE headunit)

Other than that, to the OP, you have low cost options if you want to retain the factory headunit. You also have for a little bit of money great upgrades in the $80-$160 range in aftermarket headunits that can play MP3's, and offer options for iPod integration.
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Old 01-11-2008, 07:47 PM   #11
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I think you are right about that Ipod having analog out. Sux

In that case mp3 cd is still better. 100% digital.

Correction:

Dock Connector Port : It is digital.

Analog and Digital Like all music players, the iPod has analog output for a headset, which can be input to any amplifier and speakers, whether in the car or not. The iPod's dock connector port at the bottom of the unit provides a bi-directional, digital connection to an iPod-specific car adapter as well as to a computer or desktop iPod docking station.

http://www.techweb.com/encyclopedia/...OD+CAR+ADAPTER

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Old 01-11-2008, 11:54 PM   #12
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I think you are right about that Ipod having analog out. Sux

In that case mp3 cd is still better. 100% digital.

Correction:

Dock Connector Port : It is digital.

Analog and Digital Like all music players, the iPod has analog output for a headset, which can be input to any amplifier and speakers, whether in the car or not. The iPod's dock connector port at the bottom of the unit provides a bi-directional, digital connection to an iPod-specific car adapter as well as to a computer or desktop iPod docking station.

http://www.techweb.com/encyclopedia/...OD+CAR+ADAPTER
http://pinouts.ru/Devices/ipod_pinout.shtml

most adapters use pins 3-6, this means analog signal.

this is just more cost effective since they don't want to be paying to put more D/A converters in a HU.
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Old 01-12-2008, 02:54 AM   #13
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http://pinouts.ru/Devices/ipod_pinout.shtml

most adapters use pins 3-6, this means analog signal.

this is just more cost effective since they don't want to be paying to put more D/A converters in a HU.
Exactly.

The only way for digital to pass out of the ipod is if the headunit had it's own USB or firewire controller/driver. Which drives up the cost of the unit, thus manufacturers choose to use serial commands (tried and true for decades) and analog.
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Old 01-12-2008, 03:15 PM   #14
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The reason I would suggest an ipod as well is not having to click the tunning 95 times to get to a song 95. lol

the ipod you can at least pick your song from the list.
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Old 01-12-2008, 04:20 PM   #15
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If OEM 6 disc changers without the aux input sell for $40-$60 every day. Why are the ones with the aux selling for $250? I can see a little bit more, but that's kind of silly.
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Old 01-14-2008, 01:27 PM   #16
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If OEM 6 disc changers without the aux input sell for $40-$60 every day. Why are the ones with the aux selling for $250? I can see a little bit more, but that's kind of silly.
google: jazzy mod
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Old 01-14-2008, 06:20 PM   #17
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I had that mod, it required me to run a "blank cd" so that it could overlay the sound, its OK but I replaced it with a aftermarket one 2 din unit (sound quality on the factory unit is lacking speaker and head unit power) . I have the factory unit with mod if any one is interested.

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If OEM 6 disc changers without the aux input sell for $40-$60 every day. Why are the ones with the aux selling for $250? I can see a little bit more, but that's kind of silly.
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Old 01-25-2008, 01:16 PM   #18
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Oh geeze..........

MP3's with a bit rate of 300kbs are the same as CD and the human ear cannot tell the difrence. You probably dont understand what kb means to make a statement like that.

The factory EQ? I think you mean the sound spectrum frequency range. Remember that the factory unit is made by Clarion. If you dont like Clarion thats upto you but Clarion is known for make 20hz to 20khz.

Its all analog comming out of the Ipod? Obviously you dont know what a CNET connector is because you probably only use mini DIN.

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...EA1251B+-.html

Everything you said was wrong and misinformative.

Go buy your Kenwood, Sony, and JVC for $80-$160 so i can laugh at you. CLARION FTW.

If your radio is Satelite Ready- you have the CNET, get this.
what a doofus
06 sti oem H/U suck ass dont play mp3 format while my 03 baja does.
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Old 04-02-2008, 01:23 AM   #19
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It'll take about <$20 (including shipping) for you to buy a DIN cable, and some <insert connector type> along with about 3 minutes worth of soldering, to finish off the cable.
Can anyone point out a tutoiral or a parts list for this homebrew IPOD cable? I have a 2004 WRX but the stock headunit was replaced in January of 2006 at the dealership under warranty so I dont know what year the headunit is. Anyway to tell?
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