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Old 07-16-2019, 09:43 AM   #76
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Well, i had my Ď18 Limited for about ~4,000 miles when I was rear-ended, totaled out my car. (Other guys fault, he was ticketed)

So, at my wifeís urging I went with a full size sedan. Ď18 Nissan Maxima SR Midnight Edition. It truly is a luxury/near-luxury sedan. Decent performance for a large sub-$40K vehicle.

After owning the max for 9 months, Iím about to trade it in another wrx.

The wrx is a drivers car. (Manual transmission)
Itís response to the right, middle, and left pedals are unparalleled by just about everything else under $40k.

It always made me smile to drive.
I want to smile again when I drive.
Do the STI. WRX is an excellent daily driver but you miss out on so much.
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Old 07-16-2019, 02:16 PM   #77
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I love the WRX. Base model WRX with modest modification will get you close to stock STI power.

Either one is going to be much more fun than your typical slush box.

Is the jury in on FA vs EJ engine reliability?
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Old 07-16-2019, 02:58 PM   #78
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I love the WRX. Base model WRX with modest modification will get you close to stock STI power.

Either one is going to be much more fun than your typical slush box.

Is the jury in on FA vs EJ engine reliability?
Yea just don't be an idiot and keep up with maintenance.

I've had two friends who had EJ's semi built, beat the piss on it, never had a hiccup. I had my FA for 30k miles no issues. A large amount of people that have had issues so early on probably didn't keep up with maintenance, did something stupid to grenade the car (missed shift, WOT in 6th gear 60 mph to 140) or just simply had a lemon.
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Old 07-16-2019, 03:09 PM   #79
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Yeah judging from the FA blown motor thread, the common denominators are WOT in high gears, low RPM; modification with bad tunes/no tune at all; poor maintenance.

I'm at about 40k miles, 25k of which has been modded/tuned (probably about 15k with the current setup). I change the oil religiously between 3-4k miles, generally stay out of 6th gear unless I'm doing 85 on the interstate, and try to keep my RPM above 3k when cruising around. DAM has never dropped, and I only get feedback knock when the fuel isn't great quality (only -1.41 at the most). That is pretty rare though.

It's all about knowing the car and taking proper care of it/not being ignorant.
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Old 07-16-2019, 03:36 PM   #80
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Is is important to keep the RPM over 3k with an un-modded STI? It does feel much happier at 3K. I had a 2 stroke motorcycle that would foul the plugs in about 5 miles if you cruised below 4K.
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Old 07-16-2019, 03:49 PM   #81
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Honestly not sure. It was suggested to me at one point and the car seems much happier.

It's definitely important to not mash the throttle below 3000-3500 RPM on either the WRX or STI. I think most of us know that though.
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Old 07-16-2019, 04:11 PM   #82
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Honestly not sure. It was suggested to me at one point and the car seems much happier.

It's definitely important to not mash the throttle below 3000-3500 RPM on either the WRX or STI. I think most of us know that though.
generally really only applies to higher gears. You can mash the pedal at 2500 in 2nd/3rd gear and be fine. You won't be prone to LSPI unless you try to do a long pull in 5th gear or 6th gear. I've actually read about some guy grenading his brand new STI because he thought it was a good idea to try and hit 140 going from a 60 roll in 6th gear. (iwsti.com)
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Old 07-16-2019, 05:01 PM   #83
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This all makes sense. It just feels wrong to try to accelerate hard below 3K. I can feel that instinctively. I was concerned we were supposed to be driving around at constant city street speeds at 3K, like it was a 2 stroke engine.
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Old 07-16-2019, 05:12 PM   #84
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I usually cruise around 2500 RPM in my WRX and STI. 2000 or less only while going down a slight decline where I don’t apply much throttle and don’t need engine braking.
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Old 07-16-2019, 05:46 PM   #85
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Just saw you can order a 2020 Supra. Automatic transmission only <<< that's why I come back to Subaru.

Had a Chevy salesman tell me that the paddle shifters on the Camaro made it a manual transmission. <<< that's why I don't drive a Chevy.
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Old 07-16-2019, 06:17 PM   #86
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generally really only applies to higher gears. You can mash the pedal at 2500 in 2nd/3rd gear and be fine. You won't be prone to LSPI unless you try to do a long pull in 5th gear or 6th gear. I've actually read about some guy grenading his brand new STI because he thought it was a good idea to try and hit 140 going from a 60 roll in 6th gear. (iwsti.com)
^ this

Every log I've taken has been mashing the pedal from about 2,200rpm in 3rd, and from about 3,000rpm in 4th. All in stock, Stage 1 and Stage 2... zero hiccups showing up in the logs. (talking about logs here because it's the one time you do get feedback on how the engine is responding. I've done the same hundreds of times before, but without logging... no broken engines - although I did rod-knocked my '98 Integra R like 15 yrs ago. I was young )

I have seen a few minor cruise knock events when hitting the pedal in 5th or 6th on the highway. Some higher than 1.40 but quickly went back to 0 and never enough to trigger any DAM drop. So I'm thinking there is at least some rationale behind not mashing the pedal at low revs in 6th...

Never gone WOT in 6th gear, don't think I ever will; and if I did, it wouldn't be from 2,000rpm. No need to. I've also never done a donut in asphalt.
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Old 07-22-2019, 12:44 PM   #87
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My parents were Subaru owners since I was a young kid. The first car I drove was a Outback Sport, first car I owned was an front wheel drive '89 DL. Currently driving an '14 STI, and got my wife to switch from Hyundai to Subaru. I told her she's joining a cult, and that's kind of what it's like.
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Old 07-22-2019, 01:59 PM   #88
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not necessarily hard to work on... but trouble shooting these cars can be a pain
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Old 07-22-2019, 02:09 PM   #89
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Old 07-25-2019, 03:17 PM   #90
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Simply no other choice if you want hydraulic steering, 6 speed, drive by wire at the same price point if you don't want to go over 50k (CDN). Plus I like the Subaru Community back in the dayz..............
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Old 07-28-2019, 12:01 PM   #91
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Also, the C8 is not available with a manual either. Neither is the GT-R or the NSX.

At least the next-gen BMW M3/M4 will still be offered with a manual.

The STi is the last driverís car in my opinion with real driver engagement.

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Old 07-28-2019, 03:54 PM   #92
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Subaru is the only car company that offers all of the following in a single car:

- A true AWD system (none of that torque vectoring when a loss of traction is detected BS)
- A turbo
- Sportiness
- Actually interesting body design
- Actual manual transmission
- Practicality (4 doors, wagons in older models)
- High safety ratings
- All weather capability
- equally at home on pavement and on dirt roads
- reliability (subies are no 22re hilux, but they're sufficiently reliable considering what they are)
- cheap and/or plentiful parts
- a reasonable and non-excessive amount of electronic nannies
- Is not exceedingly expensive

There are other cars out there that have a majority of this list, but not all. One that comes to mind is the nismo Juke, but I've never driven one, and I'm not sure how the AWD system performs on dirt.

Another car that comes to mind is, of course, the golf R, but I wouldn't trust it on dirt, it isn't exactly inexpensive, it looks boring as all hell, has no manual option, and the AWD system is part-time. It's also filled to the brim with electronic gizmos.

I guess my point is that Subaru likes to keep their cars basic and "mechanical" in comparison to other modern manufacturers.
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Old 07-28-2019, 05:16 PM   #93
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The Golf R still comes with a manual. But I wouldn't be surprised if few dealers carry it in stock.
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Old 07-28-2019, 07:17 PM   #94
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Actually there are more MT Golf-R's in stock than the DSG variant not that we really care.

More and more people can't drive MT.. they keep saying the AT is faster, therefore a better choice. I could careless if the DSG is faster.. MT is the only way to really enjoy a car especially a sports-hatch like the Golf-R. I hated my DSG GTI.
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I guess I've just never seen a Golf R with an MT. Learn something new every day.
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The Corvette is dropping the MT for 2020, and going with all season tires.

Looking more and more like my 19 STI will be the last car I will ever buy.
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Old 07-29-2019, 07:34 PM   #97
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Yeah, for me RWD cars are a bit tricky to drive even in the summer because I take my cars out early morning. Pavement is still cool and the tires just do not grip all that well.

But if I was to get a RWD, it would be the 718 Cayman GTS (in MT of course). Even the regular 2.0L 718 Caymans are nice, the GTS has everything I'd need from a RWD street sports car and the 4 banger boxer sounds good.
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Old 07-30-2019, 01:44 AM   #98
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The Corvette is dropping the MT for 2020, and going with all season tires.

Looking more and more like my 19 STI will be the last car I will ever buy.
Those all season tires arenít like those on your fatherís Buick.
They are designed for performance. A vette is supposed to pull 1g on them.
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Old 07-30-2019, 09:57 AM   #99
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Where I live the summer only tires are a pain. Its cold enough already in October to need to switch and it doesn't warm up enough to be over 40 in the morning until mid May. The all season is probably a plus.

My point was mostly about the manual transmission going away. When I was looking at cars last spring I stopped in at a Chevy dealer. When I asked the salesman about the manual transmission in the Corvette and Camaro, he said it wasn't available, that I was just thinking about the paddle shifters. So I left. The say they dropped the MT because too few wanted it. I think it is more that the salespeople didn't know they existed and are overall total idiots.
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Old 07-30-2019, 10:00 AM   #100
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I did a lot of research and shopping before buying my STI. The saleman at the Subaru dealership was the only one that could answer my questions about their car. Every other brand I knew more than the salesman. That's a big reason why I bought Subaru.
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