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02-05-2010, 07:12 PM | #26 | |
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Trust me when I tell you the Vee is CRAP. They are horrible for getting in and out of quickly..especially with gear on. A 9mm round could probably penetrate where they actually put armor in the "armored" version. But as someone who actually has had to face the very real threat of mobility vs getting blown the **** to pieces by an rpg, ied, or some damn jihadist suicide bomber....Ill take the better armor and the worse ride thanks. But. it would be nice to have something simple. Marines are just going to break anything with a lot of tech in it. Especially in the field. All that hybrind blah blah technology blah blah is good for nothing except keeping the pogue's out of combat, but all that crap is just plain unreliable
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02-09-2010, 02:05 AM | #27 | |
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Gm was more on the marketing side of things with the H1 and "Hummer" name. |
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02-09-2010, 02:10 AM | #28 |
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i will take a HMMWV any day over anything. proven in the battlefield numerous times. my cousin who survived a roadside bombing due to the hmmwv being up-armored will attest to that.
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02-09-2010, 02:16 PM | #29 | |
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Humvees don't survive roadside bombs unless they are yards and yards away. |
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02-09-2010, 04:00 PM | #30 |
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I was just reading my Car and Driver today and they have a Best of the U.S. feature.
One of the vehicles featured is the Oshkosh M-ATV which looks pretty promising for the military as a HMMWV replacement. Lots more mobile than the MRAPs and vastly better armor than the HMMWV Article here: http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...specialty_file |
02-09-2010, 04:45 PM | #31 | |
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02-09-2010, 06:17 PM | #32 | |
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With all the mud, dust, vibration, etc that military vehicles go through, is it safe to rely on something so hi tech? I hate to bring this up, but look at toyota, sure some people think its all mechanical but its starting to look like there may be some sort of electrical issues going on as well. Luckily for most civilians, MOST of the time, its not a life or death situation. If it were a military vehicle that malfunctioned, it could easily mean death. User what works and has been proven to work. Most hybrid tech found in cars is too new to really see how reliable it is in adverse conditions. |
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02-09-2010, 08:07 PM | #33 |
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The military must have changed a bunch since I was a light infantry squad leader--I could practically count on one hand the number of times I had hot chow while in the field. I recall being deployed overseas and waiting in the jungle for a helicopter to drop us some chow--MREs. The damn pilots dropped it at the wrong coordinates. When this was reported to our command over the radio, the response was, "forage, over."
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02-10-2010, 10:27 AM | #34 | ||
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You are right that GM was still licensed to own the rights to the civilian truck. Mostly because the Hummer name was only tied to one model truck (like if the Impreza was purchased from Subaru) However, the chassis between the military & civilian models is slightly different. Quote:
GM produced the H1 and made significant changes to the vehicle from the AMG days. They also bumped the price to double what AMG was charging. There are more differences between the different HMMWV variations and the Hummer/H1 than, say a JDM Impreza line and USDM Impreza line since '93) Nick |
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02-18-2010, 05:35 PM | #35 |
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02-18-2010, 05:53 PM | #36 |
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Why even mention the H2/3s; they were built on the Suburban and Colorado chassis. The H1 at least shared a similar chassis engine with the mil version. One of the biggest differences between the mil and civ vehicles was the electrical system, 24v versus 12v.
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02-19-2010, 09:41 AM | #37 |
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and the majority of the military truck accessories are mechanical.
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02-21-2010, 08:04 PM | #38 | |
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lol @ the windowless doorless room thing. So freaking true. This one time my platoon was given this field gps unit that was supposed to be super durable we broke the damn thing in 15 minutes. |
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02-22-2010, 08:35 AM | #39 |
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POGS, Tracking like a Bradley!
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02-22-2010, 08:36 AM | #40 | |
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02-22-2010, 09:49 AM | #41 | |
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The MRAP I can see would be a problem in certain conditions b/c it simply could not get to areas due to its large size and long wheel base, but those things looked at least like a decent compromise between mobility and armor. |
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02-22-2010, 09:58 AM | #42 |
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They have so many mechanical issues it is not even funny. We already flipped one, where a humvee wouldnt even think of doing that.
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02-22-2010, 11:25 AM | #43 |
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Yeah they look top heavy, but it is not always easy to tell just from looking.
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08-17-2010, 10:07 AM | #44 | |
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AM General got a new contract:
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Good to see. Nick |
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08-17-2010, 10:40 AM | #45 |
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I thought the Mexican drug cartels Army use them as well.
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