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Old 08-10-2019, 06:39 AM   #26
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Acura is teasing the debut of the Type S Concept at Monterey Car Week later this month,

Luxury performance fans have plenty of options to choose from, including M, AMG and RS, to name a few. But among that sporty alphabet soup, one letter has been missing for more than a decade: Acura’s
“S” line.

Not for long, or so it might seem, thanks to a teaser that Honda’s upscale brand sent out today. It promises that those attending the annual Monterey Car Week later this month will get a first look at an all-new Type S Concept. Details are scarce, but it appears that, in typical Acura fashion, this is not a pie-in-the-sky fantasy car.

“The return of Type S is a pivotal moment for Acura, sending a powerful message that we are committed to fulfilling the Precision Crafted Performance brand promise across our lineup,” said Jon Ikeda, vice president and Acura Brand Officer. “Building on the return of NSX, our renewed commitment to Acura Motorsports, the introduction of the third-generation RDX and new Acura design direction, the Type S Concept represents another significant step in creating a new era for the Acura brand.”


The Acura Type S Concept appears to be based on the next-generation TLX four-door coupe.

There have been a handful of Type S models since the beginning of the new millennium:

· 2001-2003 3.2CL Type S

· 2002-2003 3.2TL Type S

· 2002-2006 RSX Type S

· 2007-2008 TL Type S


A 2008 Acura TL Type S.

What do we know about the new Type S or, at the least, the Concept, at this point? The basic shape and apparent size would suggest what we’ll see this month is based on the next-generation Acura TLX sedan. The details match those that somehow wound up embedded in software for the RDX crossover that a fan of the AcuraZine found.

It also helps to know that parent Honda filed to trademark the name, “TLX Type S” nearly three years ago. Sure, there are lots of names that get protection but are never used, but this seems a bit more than coincidental.

For years, little more than an afterthought in the luxury market, Acura has been pushing to make itself relevant again. It’s done a good job with its RDX and MDX crossovers and, while the second-generation NSX hasn’t generated massive sales, it is a technical tour de force. The challenge is finding a way to build buzz for the passenger car side of the line-up. That’s what this four-door coupe is aimed at doing.


Unlike the past, Acura is signaling Type S could become a regular part of the line-up, much Mercedes-AMG and BMW M.

One should pay close attention to the wording of Acura’s news release which says the Type S Concept will “set the design direction for the return of Type S variants to the Acura lineup in the years ahead.”

That could mean that, as in years past, the Japanese luxury brands could put out a Type S model every few years for a short run. That was how BMW and Mercedes-Benz did things in decades past. More likely, it would suggest that Type S will not only make a return but that it is here to stay, possibly as a distinctive variant of a number different Acura models.

All should become clear – or at least a bit clearer on August 15 at “The Quail, a Motorsports Gathering,” one of the big events of a week ultimately capped off by the Pebble Beach Concours d’Elegance.
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Acura needs to bring back an Integra type sport car. Enough of these boring mid or full sized sedans that aren't fun. Build something to compete with cars like the S3.
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Old 08-10-2019, 11:44 AM   #28
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Acura needs to come out with 3 or 6 more crossovers.
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Old 08-10-2019, 01:22 PM   #29
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The 2007-2008 TL Type-S was hawt. It's a same they only made it for 2 years, and it seems most of them were sold with only 2 pedals. Would love to have a manual one of those for a daily.
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Old 08-10-2019, 09:39 PM   #30
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Acura needs to bring back an Integra type sport car. Enough of these boring mid or full sized sedans that aren't fun. Build something to compete with cars like the S3.
5 door hatch with the Type R engine and AWD and leather Recaros, with mini TLX styling. That'd get me back in an Acura after 19 years.

I know, it'll be a sedan if they make it.
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Old 08-10-2019, 10:49 PM   #31
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The 2007-2008 TL Type-S was hawt. It's a same they only made it for 2 years, and it seems most of them were sold with only 2 pedals. Would love to have a manual one of those for a daily.
hawter than spec b of the same era?
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Old 08-10-2019, 11:33 PM   #32
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I like both. AWD being the difference.
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What they need is an AWD sedan with the Civic Type R engine and brakes. It's so obvious. The Type R is a great platform already. It just needs a more grown up look.
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5 door hatch with the Type R engine and AWD and leather Recaros, with mini TLX styling. That'd get me back in an Acura after 19 years.

I know, it'll be a sedan if they make it.
Me too! Bought a new 2001 rsx-s that i cross shopped against a 2002 wrx. Interestingly enough I'm in a 2015 wrx now that i bought new lol
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Me too! Bought a new 2001 rsx-s that i cross shopped against a 2002 wrx. Interestingly enough I'm in a 2015 wrx now that i bought new lol
My wife had a 2002 WRX - awesome when you were flogging in, a ****box when you're commuting. The RSX-S was sweet if you didn't need the 4 doors. Acura needs to get back in the game. We don't need more plush, sporty $45k sedans, we need more competition for the $30k WRX.
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My wife had a 2002 WRX - awesome when you were flogging in, a ****box when you're commuting. The RSX-S was sweet if you didn't need the 4 doors. Acura needs to get back in the game. We don't need more plush, sporty $45k sedans, we need more competition for the $30k WRX.
Haha man i couldn't get over how bad the inside of the wrx was- it still had a cassette player lol. Im ready to get a new car, but i agree, there is just nothing in the $30k range that makes me want to trade in my car. The only thing i like is the S3, but i just don't have the disposable income to justify eating the depreciation and tax (California)
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Me too! Bought a new 2001 rsx-s that i cross shopped against a 2002 wrx. Interestingly enough I'm in a 2015 wrx now that i bought new lol
I had an 06 RSX-S and my brother had an 03 RSX-S. That car was seriously so fun and awesome for the price. I was pleasantly surprised by how practical it was despite only having two doors, and I will take a screamin' VTEC motor sound over the FA20's boring sound any day.
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At this point, honestly I could seriously careless about Acura's. Their cars are so boring (well, maybe not the NSX but everything else).

Honda should just do a $50K range S2K revival.
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I had an 06 RSX-S and my brother had an 03 RSX-S. That car was seriously so fun and awesome for the price. I was pleasantly surprised by how practical it was despite only having two doors, and I will take a screamin' VTEC motor sound over the FA20's boring sound any day.
We will have to disagree slightly- i loved the sound of my k20 with my CAI, but my wrx with turboXs j/mid pipe and 3" tbe Nvidia N1 dual exit sounds meaner. It just sounds way more powerful all around. Cheers!
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At this point, honestly I could seriously careless about Acura's. Their cars are so boring (well, maybe not the NSX but everything else).

Honda should just do a $50K range S2K revival.
I agree! After looking at a S3, I decided i will probably never spend $50k on a car.
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I’m surprised Acura has lasted this long selling a couple of SUV’s while their cars collect dust.
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here is an idea honda... you nimwits.
Make it a tt V6 and only RWD and with a DSG or manual option, and ditch the stupid heavy batteries and electric motors. Make a pure drivers car, You cannot POSSIBLY do worse than you are now with the current NSX failure.
Nimwits indeed, but to hell with the turbos. Real drivers cars don't need them. In fact, shouldn't have them.

Start with the J37, destroke to 3.0l, raise redline to 9,500 (same piston speeds as an F20C), install K20A head design. ~400hp from 3.0 liters displacement, easy.

That's more than enough power for a 2800lb NSX to be the best driver's car ever made. And it shouldn't weight any more than that. If Honda can make a mid sized sedan (the Civic) weigh about that, why not a mid-engine two seater?
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https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/a...cept-monterey/







I like straight lines more than swoops and curves. Congrats Acura. This is a looker.

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^^^ It looks amazing, but also pretty expensive. Just offer a modern 300hp'ish engine, AWD, a stick shift and price it at ~$35,000.
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^^^ It looks amazing, but also pretty expensive. Just offer a modern 300hp'ish engine, AWD, a stick shift and price it at ~$35,000.
So an STi (but with a modern engine) with an Acura badge? You can't even get a hype R for that money, and it's only FWD; how do you expect an AWD Acura with 300ish horsepower to cost last than a FWD Honda with 300ish horsepower? Not to mention the TLX in AWD trim is close to 4,000 lbs of car; check you math man, check your math.
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^^^ It looks amazing, but also pretty expensive. Just offer a modern 300hp'ish engine, AWD, a stick shift and price it at ~$35,000.
I’ll have whatever you’re smoking. Totally not feasible.
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I’ll have whatever you’re smoking. Totally not feasible.
Pass that over here, that's about what I'd like to pay for a new audi s3 lol
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Old 08-15-2019, 07:38 AM   #48
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The Acura Type S Concept will debut later this week at the Pebble Beach Concours.

Acura’s bid to reinvent itself as a more dynamic and sporty brand gets even more momentum this week with the official debut of the Type S Concept during the annual Pebble Beach Car week.

Picking up on a name that was used sparingly, in decades past, for special one-off performance models, the Concept offers not only an indication of what the next-generation Acura TLX will look like but also a promise that we’ll be seeing more Type S models in the brand’s future. Essentially, it will become he Acura equivalent of BMW’s M, Cadillac’s V-Series, and the Mercedes-AMG sub-brand.

“The return of Type S is instrumental in our mission to return Acura to its performance roots,” said Jon Ikeda, vice president and Acura brand officer. “From bringing back the NSX to winning at the highest level of North American sports car racing and ushering in a new generation starting with the RDX, we are revitalizing Acura on the foundation of our original and authentic brand values, piece by piece.”

Like its parent, Honda, the Acura brand is fond of using “concept” vehicles to show what will soon follow in production. Sources within Acura tell TheDetroitBureau.com that the actual TLX Type S won’t make its formal appearance until sometime next year, apparently as a 2021 model.

The show car that will debut at “The Quail, a Motorsports Gathering” on Aug. 16, will give us a good sense of what the “base,” second-generation of the Acura TLX will look like, but it also features many of the distinctive design cues that will distinguish the Concept S version – and future Concept S variants of other nameplates.

The Type S Concept is likely to become a production vehicle in 2021.

Broadly, the new sedan features a lower and wider stance than the original TLX, with a longer, more sporty hood. Whether that is simply meant to give us the appearance of a rear-wheel-drive platform or actually adopts RWD, is uncertain though it would mean a major new platform – the only one in the Honda family – was developed secretly.

The good news is that while we don’t yet have any specific powertrain details, the Type S Concept – and the production model – will adopt Acura’s distinctive Super Handling All-Wheel-Drive, or SH-AWD, system. Similar to what’s offered on models like the MDX, is not only can shift power front and back but also left and right, this torque vectoring helping to steer it through tight corners.

As for engines, a brand source reminded us that Acura is working on a high-performance turbo-six engine, though it remains to be seen if it will make its debut under the long hood of the production version TLX Type S.

Visually, the Concept has a lot of appropriately sporty detail, with a clear influence of the NSX supercar. That starts with a dynamic new take on the brand’s familiar Diamond Pentagon grille. It’s framed by a four-lamp version of Acura’s Jewel Eye LED headlamps, the automaker notes, along with “Chicane” daytime running lamps and taillights “both drawing inspiration from the Acura ARX-05 Daytona Prototype race car.”

The Concept’s profile features shifting angular details and crisp, intersecting lines that are meant to accentuate the large and muscular rear wheel arches housing multispoke 21-inch wheels and tires. One of the more interesting details is what Acura calls a “forged carbon” rear decklid spoiler crated by bonding multiple layers of carbon fiber. The material is used for the show car’s front and rear splitters and side sills, as well.

To scrub off speed, all corners get drilled Brembo brakes with four-piston calipers. The Type S Concept is finished in “Double Apex Blue Pearl” paint, an homage to the treatment used on the 2007-2008 Acura TL Type S.

After its debut at The Quail on Friday, the Acura Type S Concept will follow up with an appearance on the Concept Lawn during the Pebble Beach Concours d’Elegance on Sunday.

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Looks great.

But price-wise, this is going to be Audi S4/RS3 territory. I certainly wouldn't be headed to the Acura dealer with 45-50K to spend on a "performance sedan".
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Looks surprisingly decent but it better be packing some heat this pricing as the old Honda SOHC 3.5l V6 is getting pretty long on the tooth.
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