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Old 08-20-2019, 02:10 PM   #326
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For what it's worth, I put the 2015 rack in, with the 2015 cross member, in my 2009 Outback (both purchased new). All the various cross members are the same dimensionally, so that provided the correct cutout shapes for the rack/lines. The subframe spacers on the Outback are just that - spacers. So they can be transferred over to the STI cross member (irrelevant for your GD purposes, but wanted to clarify since I'm sure someone would say the OXT is different). So, if you wanted an all OEM setup as I did, you just use the 2015 parts. Same with the lines - so what if the hard-line parts don't go exactly where they belong, these lego cars are compatible enough that a little bending and moving and new attachment clips (or hose clamps) make it all work easily.
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Old 08-20-2019, 03:46 PM   #327
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The 2015 subframe isn't a isn't a direct fit into the GD. When that was looked into at the time, it wasn't an option (the main installation interfaces to the chassis are different)

The GR & GV share architecture with the BL & BP. In fact, the '15 STi rack is a direct fitment into the legacy/outback (as well as the GR) without swapping subframes.
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Old 08-20-2019, 05:43 PM   #328
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I've seen people say they have done it on the 05-07 cars by swapping AN lines in place of the hard crossover lines, but I've never seen any more detailed info than that, or even a picture for that matter.

FWIW TSSFab make a subframe for the GD that's a direct bolt in for the '15 rack and sheds some weight.
Didn't even know that existed. Pretty robust honestly. Looks like it's built for a tank. So you might know or I might just email the manufacture. I don't have any crazy mods, have a white line ALK..etc. I noticed that in the pictures they do not have the undertray... does this mean that wouldn't be installed anymore? Everything looks so open that concerns me slightly. I love the fact that you can order it with the 2015 STi rack and it appears it would just bolt right up!

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Old 08-22-2019, 11:28 AM   #329
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Didn't even know that existed. Pretty robust honestly. Looks like it's built for a tank. So you might know or I might just email the manufacture. I don't have any crazy mods, have a white line ALK..etc. I noticed that in the pictures they do not have the undertray... does this mean that wouldn't be installed anymore? Everything looks so open that concerns me slightly. I love the fact that you can order it with the 2015 STi rack and it appears it would just bolt right up!

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I'm running the TSSFab front subframe with 15sti rack in my 04 FXT. The rack mounting is pretty stout and about the only thing you'd maybe want to do is swap out bushings if you want.

The lines come out of the rack a little funky and my steering setup is rather unique since i'm running a volvo electric power steering rack where the battery normally sits... but I digress. You can use AN adapter fittings in the rack but they're not really "correct" i couldn't find anything with the right taper on the rack side so I ended up using a face seal fitting. It's sealed fine to date. You have to watch the hex size on the An adapters though. They will not fit side by side if they're very big.

MooreSport does sell an AN adapter block that bolts on,uses some banjo bolts into block of Al and face seals the same way I am as far as I can tell... but like all their stuff isn't the cheapest option and will probably come with no instructions.

Also for those who don't drive their cars through crap weather. Baer makes an outer tie rod/Heim joint setup for the subarus with the correct taper bolt to adapt a 5/8 heim to the subaru knuckle, give you bump steer adjust... and it's an aluminum hex link part that goes from the stock metric inner to a 5/8 heim. You can also order that turnbuckle/aluminum piece in other sizes to adapt to a narrower or wider front track.
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I'm running the TSSFab front subframe with 15sti rack in my 04 FXT. The rack mounting is pretty stout and about the only thing you'd maybe want to do is swap out bushings if you want.

The lines come out of the rack a little funky and my steering setup is rather unique since i'm running a volvo electric power steering rack where the battery normally sits... but I digress. You can use AN adapter fittings in the rack but they're not really "correct" i couldn't find anything with the right taper on the rack side so I ended up using a face seal fitting. It's sealed fine to date. You have to watch the hex size on the An adapters though. They will not fit side by side if they're very big.

MooreSport does sell an AN adapter block that bolts on,uses some banjo bolts into block of Al and face seals the same way I am as far as I can tell... but like all their stuff isn't the cheapest option and will probably come with no instructions.

Also for those who don't drive their cars through crap weather. Baer makes an outer tie rod/Heim joint setup for the subarus with the correct taper bolt to adapt a 5/8 heim to the subaru knuckle, give you bump steer adjust... and it's an aluminum hex link part that goes from the stock metric inner to a 5/8 heim. You can also order that turnbuckle/aluminum piece in other sizes to adapt to a narrower or wider front track.
I'm interested in your Volvo PS pump setup, do you just run it at 12v or use a controller or anything? Does it keep up compared to a conventional pump? Are you still using a standard alternator? Pics? Sounds like you've built something awesome
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Old 10-29-2019, 07:52 PM   #331
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ive read through most of this thread, but want to confirm before I start the install.

chassis is 96 coupe
subframe and everything under car is 2003 wrx wagon
2004 sti aluminum control arms.

will I still need to modify the tie rods and ends to fit since I already have the sti aluminum front controls?

is a 2002+ RS steering column the same as a wrx column? there is one locally that is reasonably priced. since I need to use a gd steering linkage.
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Old 10-30-2019, 10:59 AM   #332
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ive read through most of this thread, but want to confirm before I start the install.

chassis is 96 coupe
subframe and everything under car is 2003 wrx wagon
2004 sti aluminum control arms.

will I still need to modify the tie rods and ends to fit since I already have the sti aluminum front controls?

is a 2002+ RS steering column the same as a wrx column? there is one locally that is reasonably priced. since I need to use a gd steering linkage.
Yes. The '08 onward STIs have an even wider track than the GD STI so the inner tie rods are longer. If I were in your position, I would use the thread adapters linked by tenchi_wrx a few pages back. This will allow you to use shorter GD inner tie rods hopefully without having to trim anything (but you may still have to with the wagon subframe.)

Do you actually need to change the column or just the steering linkage/knuckle?
I think any GD linkage should be the same length/spline count, but can't confirm that or if it will fit the GC/GM/GF column.

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Old 10-30-2019, 09:40 PM   #333
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Yes. The '08 onward STIs have an even wider track than the GD STI so the inner tie rods are longer. If I were in your position, I would use the thread adapters linked by tenchi_wrx a few pages back. This will allow you to use shorter GD inner tie rods hopefully without having to trim anything (but you may still have to with the wagon subframe.)

Do you actually need to change the column or just the steering linkage/knuckle?
I think any GD linkage should be the same length/spline count, but can't confirm that or if it will fit the GC/GM/GF column.

thanks for the reply; im still using the gc rack and tie rods.

ill order the adaptors soon.

I thought gc had a smaller steering linkage. thought a company sold a modified gc to gd link. so I figured switch to a gd column and get an sti link.

I should be starting on this swap next month.
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Old 11-08-2019, 12:56 PM   #334
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I have a couple questions on this swap. I have the 15+ rack and it will be going into a 05 STi modded subframe. My first question is canít I just cut about an inch off the inner tie rod on the 15+ rack, rethread the shaft, and use the same outer tie rods? My second question is what poly bushings are people using to do this swap? Some people say use a mixture of GD and newer STi bushings and other people say use newer STi bushings.
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You're going to have a lot of work on your hands fitting it to the 05-07 subframe as there are a different set of fitment problems with that subframe, I've heard people have done it, but I've yet to see how, so I can't give you any direction. From what I understand, the hard lines that come with the '15 rack interfere with the subframe, but there may be other issues as well. Hopefully you're already aware of those challenges.

You could cut some length off the inner rod and rethread, but that's going to involve removing part of the hex/wrench-adjustment section which may require turning that section on a lathe (probably sketchy to do so) in order to get a die to run down onto it.

For the 02-04 subframe it requires both GD and VA bushings, for an 05+ it may work with just the VA bushings.
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Why couldnít I cut off the outer section of the inner tie rod?The section where the threads thread into he outer tie rod.



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You're going to have a lot of work on your hands fitting it to the 05-07 subframe as there are a different set of fitment problems with that subframe, I've heard people have done it, but I've yet to see how, so I can't give you any direction. From what I understand, the hard lines that come with the '15 rack interfere with the subframe, but there may be other issues as well. Hopefully you're already aware of those challenges.

You could cut some length off the inner rod and rethread, but that's going to involve removing part of the hex/wrench-adjustment section which may require turning that section on a lathe (probably sketchy to do so) in order to get a die to run down onto it.

For the 02-04 subframe it requires both GD and VA bushings, for an 05+ it may work with just the VA bushings.
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Well if you read the first post, that's what was done. But you also have to trim the outer tie rod as well. Look at the pictures in the first post.

As far as why you can only trim the inner, that's explained in the post you quoted. You won't be able to run a die over the hex section of the inner without making it round and taking it down to the major thread diameter first.

Also your post only mentioned an 05 subframe, is this currently in an 05 car or is it in a GC? Are you also using STI control arms?
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Yeah, I apologize for not specifying. I have an 05 STi with a modded 05-07 subframe with stock aluminum STi control arms.



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Well if you read the first post, that's what was done. But you also have to trim the outer tie rod as well. Look at the pictures in the first post.

As far as why you can only trim the inner, that's explained in the post you quoted. You won't be able to run a die over the hex section of the inner without making it round and taking it down to the major thread diameter first.

Also your post only mentioned an 05 subframe, is this currently in an 05 car or is it in a GC? Are you also using STI control arms?
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Old 11-14-2019, 04:49 PM   #339
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I'm running the TSSFab front subframe with 15sti rack in my 04 FXT. The rack mounting is pretty stout and about the only thing you'd maybe want to do is swap out bushings if you want.

The lines come out of the rack a little funky and my steering setup is rather unique since i'm running a volvo electric power steering rack where the battery normally sits... but I digress. You can use AN adapter fittings in the rack but they're not really "correct" i couldn't find anything with the right taper on the rack side so I ended up using a face seal fitting. It's sealed fine to date. You have to watch the hex size on the An adapters though. They will not fit side by side if they're very big.

MooreSport does sell an AN adapter block that bolts on,uses some banjo bolts into block of Al and face seals the same way I am as far as I can tell... but like all their stuff isn't the cheapest option and will probably come with no instructions.

Also for those who don't drive their cars through crap weather. Baer makes an outer tie rod/Heim joint setup for the subarus with the correct taper bolt to adapt a 5/8 heim to the subaru knuckle, give you bump steer adjust... and it's an aluminum hex link part that goes from the stock metric inner to a 5/8 heim. You can also order that turnbuckle/aluminum piece in other sizes to adapt to a narrower or wider front track.
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Sounds really good indeed. Please share if possible.
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Old 11-30-2019, 01:53 PM   #340
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Just wondering what people are using to cut out the subframe. I have 03 wrx. Some holes nice and clean some not. Thanks
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Subframe is staying on car.. sorry tried to edit first post
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According to @brgperformance on Instagram, this heim-joint tie rod end kit from Baer can be used with only cutting 1/4" off the stock '15 STi inner tie rods. They also have a center "turnbuckle" section available in 3/4" shorter than stock which should make it to where you don't need to cut anything.

https://baer.com/Baer-Tracker-Adjust...s-3851001.html

I haven't ordered the kit just yet but thought I'd share what I found out.
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Sweet, nice find.
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Sweet, nice find.
very nice find, indeed

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According to @brgperformance on Instagram, this heim-joint tie rod end kit from Baer can be used with only cutting 1/4" off the stock '15 STi inner tie rods. They also have a center "turnbuckle" section available in 3/4" shorter than stock which should make it to where you don't need to cut anything.

https://baer.com/Baer-Tracker-Adjust...s-3851001.html

I haven't ordered the kit just yet but thought I'd share what I found out.
I'm not following the last part where the center turnbuckle is 3/4" shorter than stock? It is unrelated to the 1/4" cut of the stock '15 STi inner tie rods, right? So in the end, you at least have to cut the stock inner tie rods to make this kit work? perhaps my misunderstanding of the turnbuckle part means nothing will need to be cut.

What's also nice about this kit is that it seems you can use the spacers it comes with to at least match the outer tie rod you're replacing. i.e., you can stack the spacers to match the stock OTR height or the longer ones that are part of the bump steer kits from Whiteline, Superpro, etc. Or maybe someone should correct me if I'm wrong in my assessment.
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very nice find, indeed



I'm not following the last part where the center turnbuckle is 3/4" shorter than stock? It is unrelated to the 1/4" cut of the stock '15 STi inner tie rods, right? So in the end, you at least have to cut the stock inner tie rods to make this kit work? perhaps my misunderstanding of the turnbuckle part means nothing will need to be cut.

What's also nice about this kit is that it seems you can use the spacers it comes with to at least match the outer tie rod you're replacing. i.e., you can stack the spacers to match the stock OTR height or the longer ones that are part of the bump steer kits from Whiteline, Superpro, etc. Or maybe someone should correct me if I'm wrong in my assessment.
Correct. Getting the shorter turnbuckle part could mean that you don't have to cut anything.


Also correct, you can stack spacers to fine tune it to eliminate bump-steer. You can get more spacers from Baer if you need them.

I think I'm going to bite the bullet and get this kit. I'll call Baer and ask if they can sell me the kit with the shorter turnbuckle instead of getting the OTS kit and buying the shorter bits separately.

Cheers


edit: I just sent Baer an email asking if they would offer the kit with the shorter 3.25" sleeve (turnbuckle) so that we don't have to buy the kit plus the shorter sleeves. I'll report back with their reply.

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Correct. Getting the shorter turnbuckle part could mean that you don't have to cut anything.


Also correct, you can stack spacers to fine tune it to eliminate bump-steer. You can get more spacers from Baer if you need them.

I think I'm going to bite the bullet and get this kit. I'll call Baer and ask if they can sell me the kit with the shorter turnbuckle instead of getting the OTS kit and buying the shorter bits separately.

Cheers


edit: I just sent Baer an email asking if they would offer the kit with the shorter 3.25" sleeve (turnbuckle) so that we don't have to buy the kit plus the shorter sleeves. I'll report back with their reply.
That's badass. Can't wait to hear how things turn out. Good luck.
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According to @brgperformance on Instagram, this heim-joint tie rod end kit from Baer can be used with only cutting 1/4" off the stock '15 STi inner tie rods. They also have a center "turnbuckle" section available in 3/4" shorter than stock which should make it to where you don't need to cut anything.

https://baer.com/Baer-Tracker-Adjust...s-3851001.html

I haven't ordered the kit just yet but thought I'd share what I found out.
BRGPerformnce may be correct but the part description says: Applications:
2000-05 Subaru WRX/Impreza with stock spindles.
Will this actually fit a 2006-2011 STI?

Also, I have two sets of aluminum racing uprights on order with Full Spectrum Performance. They obviate the need for the Baer ends.
Where is this "center turnbuckle section" on Baer's site?

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Anybody can send me a link to the fittings required to convert the oil line to AN completely from the driver side of the rack? I've ordered these https://www.chasebays.com/products/1...767a3ee2&_ss=r, but I don't think they will work with the 2015 rack. tx
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Mooresport has a fitting that deletes the crossover lines on the rack

https://www.rallysportdirect.com/par...rdline-adapter
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Old 12-28-2019, 07:02 PM   #350
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Mooresport has a fitting that deletes the crossover lines on the rack
https://www.rallysportdirect.com/par...rdline-adapter
Really nice kit, but I already planned and got all my fitting and hoses to start from AN directly on the rack. If someone else has a link to these let me know
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