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Old 04-07-2016, 08:35 AM   #501
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Looks like the 3576 spooled (or at least made boost faster), than the 3076.

The big seller for me with the 3576 isn't that spool up is similar, but that it has much lower backpressure (same power on less boost), and also MUCH higher power potential if down the road you want to turn up the boost or run E85.
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Old 04-07-2016, 09:41 PM   #502
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I understand that is the common statement used with these two turbos. But I have yet to actually see it shown with real data. Maybe I'm just not pushing mine enough yet to have found that "choke point" in flow, must be a sign I need to turn it up a tad. Lol

If you come across a link to those back to back tests toss me a PM. Please.
egt will also tell you a lot in this scenario
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Old 04-08-2016, 01:23 AM   #503
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The charts are interesting, but not convincing, since this was a catted 3076 versus catless 3576.

Also interesting, but not convincing:
I did say spool similarly, so within 100-150rpm, not the typical 500rpm change when going up a frame size on a 2.0-2.5L engine.

The on/off transient of the GT35 will be slower because the 68mm diameter turbine has roughly a quarter more mass than the GT30 60mm turbine (68/60)^2.

Without a doubt, the GTX3576 will make ~50whp more than the GTX3076 when the turbos are maxed out.
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Old 04-08-2016, 07:34 AM   #504
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^ and hold it longer into the revs, more than making up for and spool differences.
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Old 04-08-2016, 08:28 AM   #505
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Looks like the 3576 spooled (or at least made boost faster), than the 3076.

The big seller for me with the 3576 isn't that spool up is similar, but that it has much lower backpressure (same power on less boost), and also MUCH higher power potential if down the road you want to turn up the boost or run E85.

I firmly believe the GTX3576 is hands down the best choice for the FA platform at the moment given the current restraints (HPFP, injectors etc. . .) Should be good for 650WHP maxed out on E85 I imagine once we can get it enough fuel but I bet on pump gas with stock HPFP, injectors it would be a fun setup to say the least.

And this is why I'm saving my duckets for your setup
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Old 04-08-2016, 06:01 PM   #506
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The GTX3576R has a better blade speed ratio match between the compressor wheel and turbine wheel compared to the GTX3076R. So, that results in significantly better turbine efficiency which allows the 3576 to spool about the same as the 3076 despite having less turbine pressure ratio to power the turbine. Of course, the bigger turbine frees up a lot of power up top. On the order of 50whp maxed out.

Here's some data from an Evo:
http://www.evolutionm.net/forums/evo...-gtx3576r.html
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The charts are interesting, but not convincing, since this was a catted 3076 versus catless 3576.

Also interesting, but not convincing:
That's my tuner/builder. Here are some more in-depth posts on the subject from the Honda forums. Some good info in there

http://honda-tech.com/forced-inducti.../#post48062863
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Old 05-19-2016, 01:27 AM   #507
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I'm a little late to the party but I'd love to keep up with the latest on the Killer B gtx 3576 build and other similar builds. I've been contemplating what my next step will be with my holy header and this just might seal the deal.
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Old 05-30-2016, 11:07 AM   #508
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Has anyone ran this kit with the gtx3576 I would love to see some numbers.
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Old 05-31-2016, 03:17 PM   #509
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Has anyone ran this kit with the gtx3576 I would love to see some numbers.
*Crosses fingers*

Doing this shortly. Will post results.
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Old 05-31-2016, 05:05 PM   #510
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I'm a little late to the party but I'd love to keep up with the latest on the Killer B gtx 3576 build and other similar builds. I've been contemplating what my next step will be with my holy header and this just might seal the deal.
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Has anyone ran this kit with the gtx3576 I would love to see some numbers.
We've sold kits with the GTX3576-R, but they've been to race guys and race guys don't tend to post a whole lot in nasioc, or forums in general.

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Doing this shortly. Will post results.
We should have results right before WBM.
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Old 07-12-2016, 02:44 PM   #511
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We've sold kits with the GTX3576-R, but they've been to race guys and race guys don't tend to post a whole lot in nasioc, or forums in general.
So your honest suggestion would be, perhaps, a 3076 instead for weekend/street applications? I'd love to, down the line, be able to do more fun things with the car (AutoX for sure) but for now she's just a fun casually driven car.

I just like the potential the 3576 presents but if I'm not going to be maxing it out then maybe it is a waste/unnecessary.
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Old 07-14-2016, 02:45 PM   #512
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So your honest suggestion would be, perhaps, a 3076 instead for weekend/street applications? I'd love to, down the line, be able to do more fun things with the car (AutoX for sure) but for now she's just a fun casually driven car.

I just like the potential the 3576 presents but if I'm not going to be maxing it out then maybe it is a waste/unnecessary.
You'd be best off with the 3067 for your application. With this kit, if you desire more power down the line, it's an easy swap to a 3576.
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Old 07-15-2016, 11:46 AM   #513
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My gtx3576 spoolinator build will done by the end of the month! I'll follow up with dyno results!
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Old 07-18-2016, 03:32 PM   #514
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Please do. I'm anxious to hear results
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In for results!
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Old 07-19-2016, 10:15 PM   #516
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Old 07-19-2016, 10:59 PM   #517
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Looks like the link is broken?
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Old 07-20-2016, 12:46 AM   #518
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My 3067 kit with .63 hotside will be installed and tuned early August. Will follow up. Won't be quite as fast as some as I have Invidia headers rather than the awesome killer b ones, but we shall see.
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Old 07-20-2016, 08:50 AM   #519
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The link works via computer. Can you post pics thru the mobile app?
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Old 07-20-2016, 09:49 AM   #520
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Ig kevmo1122
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Old 07-20-2016, 12:33 PM   #521
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Ig kevmo1122
I can't even google to your instagram account. Might be some privacy setting or something which is why the picture won't link to NASIOC
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Old 07-20-2016, 01:11 PM   #522
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I just searched it on Instagram, worked fine.
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Old 07-20-2016, 03:01 PM   #523
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I didn't see a plot. It does look like a spacer was added between the turbo flange and adapter?
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Old 07-20-2016, 03:14 PM   #524
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No plot yet from what I saw, but I think he said end of month was the goal.
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Old 07-20-2016, 04:13 PM   #525
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I just searched it on Instagram, worked fine.
Here's the direct link:
https://www.instagram.com/kevmo1122/

I don't have instagram, so took a little extra effort to find the page.
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