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Old 01-06-2019, 12:35 AM   #76
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Old 01-10-2019, 07:37 PM   #77
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as someone that had an STI and Forester 5 speed with hill assist, I truly fail to see some people's idea that it's intrusive.. like how exactly is it intrusive?? intrusive to what?? lol the only intrusion is to gravity rolling you back, and that's what hill assist is for...I live in the Pacific North West and specially in a city like Seattle with very steep hills and dbags 2 inches from your car it never did any wrong. That's why I fail to see how this feature is detrimental in any way. It literally does not affect any other aspect of the driving experience..
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Old 01-10-2019, 08:38 PM   #78
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I ended up turning off hill assist on my 19 WRX the other day. Main reason was I was in a bumpy parking lot where my splitter was like less than an inch away from a tire stop and had to back out without any room to roll forward.

Problem was it was difficult to gauge when the hill assist would engage or let off on the brake making it a guessing game whether my car rolled forward or not. In such case, I trust my old time e-brake and letting off while clutching out for 100% control.

Did not hit the tire stop and decided to turn it off as it also allows me to start the car while rolling back on my driveway away from the house in the early am (deletes kind of loud during cold start early am).

I've been driving MT cars for decades and it's second nature for me to start on a hill just blipping with the side of my foot while holding the brake pedal as I do for engine braking before a turn (heel and toe but rather blipping with side of my right foot while braking), etc.
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Old 01-11-2019, 12:55 AM   #79
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as someone that had an STI and Forester 5 speed with hill assist, I truly fail to see some people's idea that it's intrusive.. like how exactly is it intrusive?? intrusive to what?? lol the only intrusion is to gravity rolling you back, and that's what hill assist is for...I live in the Pacific North West and specially in a city like Seattle with very steep hills and dbags 2 inches from your car it never did any wrong. That's why I fail to see how this feature is detrimental in any way. It literally does not affect any other aspect of the driving experience..
Typical attitude from a Seattlelite that lives inside their own little world. It is called Hill "Assist" because it is an aid to "help" drivers on an incline, the name itself makes it an intrusive feature. With that said, just because it is intrusive, it does not mean it is not useful and vice-versa, i.e. ABS is a very intrusive feature but it is a great braking aid. And yes, Hill Assist can be very useful as it provides a driver a extra peace of mind on a steep incline but not all drivers feels the same. This is a poll about preference and choices, and if you like it on, good for you. Try to remember that you can have and share your opinion without throwing shade at others here.

There are plenty of other members here that lives in Seattle or other cities with hills as part of their regular landscape.
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Old 01-11-2019, 09:21 AM   #80
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Considered turning it off but it has been very useful a few times already. For now I'll keep it on.
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Old 01-11-2019, 09:22 AM   #81
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Got to be defensive against all the filthy automatic transmission peasants that see no issue in pulling up 6 inches out from your bumper.
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Old 01-11-2019, 02:46 PM   #82
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Typical attitude from a Seattlelite that lives inside their own little world. It is called Hill "Assist" because it is an aid to "help" drivers on an incline, the name itself makes it an intrusive feature. With that said, just because it is intrusive, it does not mean it is not useful and vice-versa, i.e. ABS is a very intrusive feature but it is a great braking aid. And yes, Hill Assist can be very useful as it provides a driver a extra peace of mind on a steep incline but not all drivers feels the same. This is a poll about preference and choices, and if you like it on, good for you. Try to remember that you can have and share your opinion without throwing shade at others here.

There are plenty of other members here that lives in Seattle or other cities with hills as part of their regular landscape.
Talk about assumptions. I'm from Miami, as flat as it gets, and that's where I had my STI and drove it for years there. Most of the people that I've seen complain about this feature show like NJ and so forth as if this feature kicks in their daily driving at all lulzzz and yes since moving to Seattle I have appreciated it more and more. What I love most about it is that you can actually choose to engage it without having do turn anything on or off. Just take your foot off the brakes and it will be as if it's not there..I usually just engage it in really steep hills. For everything else you simple don't have to..that simple. So actually, on that note, don't even know the point of this thread. You can choose to engage or not engage hill assist on the fly..

But that's my point, how can aiding in not rolling back be considered "intrusive"? That's like saying brakes are intrusive because they help you stop LMAO and that was the whole point of my post, I simply don't understand how it intrudes in the driving experience. Other than not rolling backwards everything else is the same as if you're not at an incline...just put it in first, give it gas, and go..

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Old 01-11-2019, 09:01 PM   #83
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I previously had a 2017 WRX that I had a lot of trouble shifting. I finally heard about turning off Hill Assist about 6 months into ownership. I tried it and the car immediately became easier to drive.

The STI did not seem like a problem on during my test drive, but I turned it off anyway.

And, no, it's not that I suck at driving manuals. I'd daily driven nothing but manuals for over 30 years, and for the 12 years prior to getting the WRX had daily-driven an Evo VIII and then an Evo X.

The WRX *really* was that bad.
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Old 01-12-2019, 01:09 AM   #84
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Talk about assumptions. I'm from Miami, as flat as it gets, and that's where I had my STI and drove it for years there. Most of the people that I've seen complain about this feature show like NJ and so forth as if this feature kicks in their daily driving at all lulzzz and yes since moving to Seattle I have appreciated it more and more. What I love most about it is that you can actually choose to engage it without having do turn anything on or off. Just take your foot off the brakes and it will be as if it's not there..I usually just engage it in really steep hills. For everything else you simple don't have to..that simple. So actually, on that note, don't even know the point of this thread. You can choose to engage or not engage hill assist on the fly..

But that's my point, how can aiding in not rolling back be considered "intrusive"? That's like saying brakes are intrusive because they help you stop LMAO and that was the whole point of my post, I simply don't understand how it intrudes in the driving experience. Other than not rolling backwards everything else is the same as if you're not at an incline...just put it in first, give it gas, and go..
That explains it, no wonder you find it so useful and not intrusive.
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Old 01-12-2019, 01:47 AM   #85
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Driven a few BMWs and VWs with a hill hold system and canít even tell itís there unless you are actually on a hill and it prevents the car from rolling back, but more importantly it lets go of the brake when you are engaging the clutch and trying to get moving. Works awesome and I was stoked that my new car would have a similar system.

However, my WRX does hold on the hills but is always late releasing the brake so a hill start feels abrupt and unnatural. If that isnít bad enough, the system does the same thing sporadically on flat roads where it isnít even needed. Sorry, but the way the system is on my car, itís useless. The handbrake works just fine on big hills and if needed to prevent rollback.

Maybe there is some calibration that is way off in my car? Seems like for some it works and for some it doesnít.
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Old 01-12-2019, 09:46 AM   #86
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CBSWRX - My 16 STI is like that, my 19 WRX has a lot better programming, but hard to tell when it activates and when it doesn't because the slightest hill does not activate hill assist.

I agree that the VW hill hold is A LOT better mainly because it holds the car each and ever time (although I don't run that either on my Golf-R as it releases a fraction of a second too late when starting on a downhill slope which is unnatural to me and VW has another set of issues with their hill assist/electronic parking brakes seizing..lol).
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Old 01-12-2019, 12:03 PM   #87
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Donít notice itís on unless Iím on a steep hill and then I love it.
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Old 01-12-2019, 06:21 PM   #88
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Off, For the first few hundred miles i had it on to see how it was. I didn't like it. I have plenty of experience driving all different stick shift vehicles and know how to drive without the assist feature.
When driving away on a hill, I let out the clutch until I feel the clutch grab enough to start lugging the engine, at that point I then take my foot off the brake and start to accelerate, at the same time start letting out the clutch. With a little practice this can be done quickly and smoothly and the car will not roll back.
With the hill assist on, I cannot feel the car because it is applying the brakes.
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Old 01-16-2019, 10:37 PM   #89
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turn that sucker off!
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Old 01-17-2019, 02:22 AM   #90
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Do not let your grandpa read this post.. Hed be outraged that anyone with a manny needed hill assist on.. Unless youre a beginner, you can be on the steepest hill, you could take your time and still only roll back a smidge.. Cmon rookies, you can get better.
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Old 01-17-2019, 11:16 AM   #91
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I keep it on for my WRX in case someone who is not me needs to drive my car. I'd rather the hill assist then someone learning my clutch on a hill and burning it. I see people complaining about replacing a clutch after 30K miles, mine has over 100K and never slips.

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Old 01-17-2019, 02:18 PM   #92
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I killed my car more in the two weeks I had it on than in the 10+ yrs driving a stick. It would engage on even the slightest grade. I just wish I could turn it off and have that stupid yellow light go away too.
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Old 01-17-2019, 02:29 PM   #93
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coming from my 2005 STI to my 2018 STI - It took me a few weeks to get used to the hill assist feature. I have it on in my '18. I like it. I just had to get used to not over-revving at a stop light, while the system engaged.
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Old 01-17-2019, 04:54 PM   #94
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although sometimes it becomes a hindrance. mainly if i have just come to stop at a red light and the light immediately goes green.
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Old 01-17-2019, 07:38 PM   #95
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Is this an option that can be added to an older subie? I have a 2005 Legacy GT.
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Old 01-20-2019, 12:12 PM   #96
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Is this an option that can be added to an older subie? I have a 2005 Legacy GT.
Yes, and It can be done easily.

https://www.wikihow.com/Get-Started-...ansmission-Car

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Old 01-20-2019, 05:53 PM   #97
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Off, it makes 1st gear easier to engage.
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