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09-23-2010, 11:26 PM | #26 |
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Yeah couple inches to the right, but just the same.
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09-23-2010, 11:26 PM | #27 |
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09-23-2010, 11:33 PM | #28 | |
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I've been a nabisco member since 2003 and I'd have to say.. 85% percent of the people on N/A are just throwing on exhaust and intakes and calling it a day.. which is precisely what you said, costly and no gains. At least a header like that will have a sexy exhaust tone. Lets count how many peeps on here shelled out over 200 bucks on an useless sound mod intake at some point... 1 |
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09-24-2010, 12:32 AM | #29 | |
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09-24-2010, 12:33 AM | #30 |
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09-24-2010, 12:47 AM | #31 |
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09-24-2010, 12:52 AM | #32 |
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09-24-2010, 01:13 AM | #33 |
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will definitely buy. I'm hoping they're in the $300 range. Totally worth the money for a direct bolt on solution to get the growl back. Hands down.
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09-24-2010, 02:20 AM | #34 | |
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I also remember when Injen came out with the revised intake for the 05.. peeps on here were buying those up like candy at $270 a pop. So my point still stands.. I'd spend 300 on super nice UEL headers vs 270 on an intake.. As nice and the borla and replica ones sound, the WRX manifold is way more UEL. |
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09-24-2010, 09:06 AM | #35 |
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Final price hasn't been set yet but the combination of materials and TIG/MIG processing will be such that the best price possible is achieved for the builder and the buyer.
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09-24-2010, 09:39 AM | #36 |
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wow. neat. i cant believe there's finally a prototype! after all my hard work. heh. interesting design. i'm curious what people will say about it. i put the price range around 450$?
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09-24-2010, 09:53 AM | #37 |
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No need to buy a HFC with this header design?
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09-24-2010, 10:01 AM | #38 |
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Looks good....
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09-24-2010, 01:21 PM | #39 | |
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As cool as it is to have the "boxer rumble" people should realize that the turbo cars make that sound for a reason, primarily b/c of turbo placement, and while it is possible to duplicate it (to a degree) on the NA cars it really doesn't gain you anything. |
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09-24-2010, 02:15 PM | #40 |
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Exhaust without changing the header does next to nothing on these cars. Plus, I said most people do it without any tuning. You could search the N/A section and find tons of people who literally just buy axle backs.. or who just have an axleback and a intake.
If your argument is pure bang for buck, then it doesnt really make sense to mod the 2.5 at all then. Most of the time, the sound result is the biggest impact from the mod. |
09-24-2010, 03:47 PM | #41 | |
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Even MAP based cars are sensitive to the intake used. Heck, pull off the stock piping from the air box and say bye to 10 ft-lbs around 2000 rpm and uneven AFR up to 3000 rpm. I'm not kidding either. It is sensitive to ECU tune though, so on the same setup that created a loss, you can also have a gain just from a different tune. A 10 ft-lb loss with one tune can very much be a 5 ft-lb gain with another tune, on the same hardware. |
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09-24-2010, 03:52 PM | #42 |
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I like it. Large radius bends, smooth collection, steps up in overall size after each collection. For an UEL header, there isn't much not to like. I'm personally still partial to the EL design cause I'm an engineering nerd, but that's just me. I might suggest trying to run a small variety of pipe sizing on the dyno and see what works best. There will likely be some sensitivity to each step, and there might be interesting results if you step up or down on size for any of the pipes. It depends how much R&D will be invested. You might have 3-4 finished prototypes and a hours on the dyno to see what combination provides what gains/losses.
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09-25-2010, 03:03 PM | #43 |
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How much?! Rallisport give us more info!
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09-25-2010, 04:46 PM | #44 |
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I'd buy for sure. I'm always interested in new products and what they do. Whether it be good or bad. I'll sit and wait patiently. Hell, I'd put off drinking for a week or two to get these because I'd like to try them so bad.
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09-25-2010, 06:34 PM | #45 |
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09-26-2010, 04:09 PM | #46 |
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09-26-2010, 09:46 PM | #47 |
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haha good to hear rallisport is making some progress. their site seems to be out of stock on everything =p
anyways, as for the argument on intake and exhaust mods on N/A cars (05+) i think it would be safe to say that 75% of people who modded their n/a did it for looks, and sound. 20% did it based off of mis-information, and the last 5% did it because they had bigger plans in mind. i am one of those last 5%. i read all the stickies on intakes, and mods on our cars. i agree. its useless and a waste of money. UNLESS you put in some major cash into something like cams, or a turbo. I would buy this header, not for looks, because no one can see it. not for performance, because if there is any gain, its not enough to justify any price over 100. but for sound. i, like everyone else, enjoy that purr we call the boxer rumble. if it indeed is a competitive price, then i believe that it is worth putting the money into such a part. As with any part you put on your car, i STRONGLY urge you to do your homework. our cars were not made for speed. our cars were not made for the track. our cars were made with "family" in mind. it was designed to be quiet, soft, and safe. if you wanted something fast, that wont cost you an arm and a leg, then you should have purchased a wrx. i eventually plan to put PnP heads and cams into my car then have it professionally tuned, and corner balanced. why? because i simply wish to learn more about how this car works. how each component affects the car as a whole. one can not put a price on knowledge. yes i can find all the information online. yes i can find out a lot without having to put a cent in. BUT can you believe everything everyone says? no. the one person you can believe is yourself. i find the information here helpful to me in my decision making, but it does not make my decision for me. =p I hope each and every one of you make your own decisions and do not let the internet tell you otherwise xD |
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Jay, I disagree. Here's why:
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09-26-2010, 11:37 PM | #49 |
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THIS IS A THREAD FOR RALLISPORT RACING'S HEADER not for F'ing intakes, you dude needs to take that to the other 1000 threads pertaining to it and KEEP IT OUT OF HERE!
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09-26-2010, 11:48 PM | #50 |
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Rofl. What will be the best intake in my 08? Any input gee Otto?
Ralli sport racing- don't forget to check the OEM front diffuser will clear these headers. Not sure if the US models have this but it is worth looking into. |
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