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Old 06-24-2007, 11:20 AM   #1
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do you feel it was worth the money to have your car protuned at stg2, as opposed to the base map? what kind of whp gains do you expect assuming the stg2 ots map already has the td04 running at full capacity?
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Old 06-24-2007, 11:26 AM   #2
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Absolutely...my car made over 40+ HP and 65+ Torque with the Pro Tune. A worthwhile investment in my opinion.
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Old 06-24-2007, 11:38 AM   #3
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interesting....

I should also mention quickly that my car is a 06 wrx
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Old 06-24-2007, 12:23 PM   #4
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Put it this way...im running the Mail-Order maps from PDX and I can definitely notice a difference. A PDX Pro-Tune can only be better.
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Old 06-24-2007, 03:19 PM   #5
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To be honest I did not gain too much as my car was already nearly maximized power-wise. What I did gain was safety, as it was leaning out a lot at near redline because my pump was failing, and I had no idea until I took it to be dynoed. So, for a safety factor I would definitely get it protuned.
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Old 06-24-2007, 06:01 PM   #6
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gains from a custom tune at stage 2 are often more than the gains you got from going stage 2 to begin with. Some cars run gret without it, like the above guy's car. Most dont. Some run dangerously bad, andmany cobb users have no idea because for some reason those people dont like to run proper instrumentation (ALWAYS HAVE THE PROPER GAUGES!!!)

Custom tuning is ALWAYS worth it.
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Old 06-24-2007, 08:37 PM   #7
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Way worth it. The COBB OTS maps are pretty conservitave seeing how they are for "the masses". I was pretty dissapointed actually.

OTS Stg 2 map: 272whp, 278wtq
Stg 2 Protuned: 296whp, 324wtq

Thats on piss Cali 91oct.
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Old 06-24-2007, 08:57 PM   #8
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I see. So everyone, in that case what are your feelings on the PDX mailorder maps? Im thinkin of goin this route.
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Way worth it. The COBB OTS maps are pretty conservitave seeing how they are for "the masses". I was pretty dissapointed actually.

OTS Stg 2 map: 272whp, 278wtq
Stg 2 Protuned: 296whp, 324wtq

Thats on piss Cali 91oct.
Agreed...Cobb Stage 2 is a wonderful thing, specially when we get to hear that boxer rumble...with no problems. But I KNOW I am running rich...I can smell it out of my exhaust....that is one problem...I can't wait to get a custom tune!!!!! I CANT WAIT!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 06-24-2007, 09:00 PM   #10
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If you want to get a straight custom tune, go PDX, great value...Dom does tunes through them online
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Old 06-24-2007, 09:03 PM   #11
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272whp? Doubt it...no way at all...maybe 220....if that, any proof that high? I know I aint feeling that much....
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I see. So everyone, in that case what are your feelings on the PDX mailorder maps? Im thinkin of goin this route.
I was not even aware these were available...what do they cost? And be assured every car is different, and where you live, i.e., altitude and quality of gas is something that a pro tuner will be able to configure to your car.
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Old 06-24-2007, 09:05 PM   #13
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I was not even aware these were available...what do they cost? And be assured every car is different, and where you live, i.e., altitude and quality of gas is something that a pro tuner will be able to configure to your car.
150 bucks. and when you order the map they ask all of the criteria mentioned and more..... including elevation, gas, goals etc etc etc.
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272whp? Doubt it...no way at all...maybe 220....if that, any proof that high? I know I aint feeling that much....
STi numbers, not WRX.

I got the numbers mixed up, its been awhile since i looked at this thing...


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I see you live in CT. I am also in CT. In my opinion, you should have your car protuned at XX Tuning in East Hartford. I actually have an appointment to have my car protuned there tomorrow. They installed my TBE and are very helpful with questions. Take advantage of having a great tuning facility close to home. Many people have to drive up to 6 hours to find a tuner.

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Old 06-24-2007, 09:43 PM   #16
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150 bucks. and when you order the map they ask all of the criteria mentioned and more..... including elevation, gas, goals etc etc etc.
Well, it certainly would be less expensive than an actual pro-tune, as long as you don't expect the same results you would get if the tuner was there actually working on your car.
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Old 06-25-2007, 02:21 AM   #17
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Sorry, just a quick question for me.. if you were to run stage 2.5 with an IHI VF-34 can you get a customized map online other than cobbs 93 octane OTS map?
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Old 06-25-2007, 06:29 AM   #18
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I see you live in CT. I am also in CT. In my opinion, you should have your car protuned at XX Tuning in East Hartford. I actually have an appointment to have my car protuned there tomorrow. They installed my TBE and are very helpful with questions. Take advantage of having a great tuning facility close to home. Many people have to drive up to 6 hours to find a tuner.

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Yah I know XX Tuning is my best option but......ya know
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Yah I know XX Tuning is my best option but......ya know
Well, if it comes down to spending $150 on a mail order map or $300 on a map that is specifically designed for your car, I would go for the $300. They will be able to actually work on your car and deal with any issues that might come up. Even though you have a 2006 WRX, it might not act the same on the mail order map than another 2006 WRX will. This is one of the benefits of protuning your car.

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Sorry, just a quick question for me.. if you were to run stage 2.5 with an IHI VF-34 can you get a customized map online other than cobbs 93 octane OTS map?
PDX tuning can create a map for you using any set up. You just have to specify everything on the order form. Check it out youll see.
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Well, if it comes down to spending $150 on a mail order map or $300 on a map that is specifically designed for your car, I would go for the $300. They will be able to actually work on your car and deal with any issues that might come up. Even though you have a 2006 WRX, it might not act the same on the mail order map than another 2006 WRX will. This is one of the benefits of protuning your car.

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Old 06-26-2007, 02:34 PM   #22
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I got 235whp and 229wtq on my 02 WRX with a ProTune from Jarrad at PDX.

We didn't do a baseline on the Cobb OTS map, but on a mustang dyno at another facility I got 200.9whp and 185wtq.

The car feels 1000x better now. Sure, it was plenty fast on the Cobb map, but the power didn't come on very strong, torque was low (especially on my 2.0). I'm still amazed how hard it pulls now
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STi numbers, not WRX.

I got the numbers mixed up, its been awhile since i looked at this thing...


what mods did you have...? and when harman tuned it, why dose the map say 95 when it should be 100.... just asking because i got it tuned there for 100oct but they guy put 95. is it because they mixed fuels..?
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Put it this way...im running the Mail-Order maps from PDX and I can definitely notice a difference. A PDX Pro-Tune can only be better.

Same here. The PDX mail-order maps make nice differance. A protune must be even more awsome.
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Old 06-29-2007, 09:54 AM   #25
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I don't have a WRX. But I would have to say that a protune was money well spent; probably my favorite "mod" so far. I gained about 50whp and 65wtq with the protune (328whp and 354wtq on stg2 ain't bad ) So it was definitely the best bang for the buck thus far. And the drivability makes it worth it even more.
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