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Old 03-27-2015, 10:18 AM   #1
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Old 03-27-2015, 10:20 AM   #2
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Can't fix title, advanced in edit does not work in ios8 ipad..why why
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Old 03-27-2015, 12:47 PM   #3
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Is it supposed to say "NATO"??? lol
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Old 03-27-2015, 12:58 PM   #4
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And per this article, it's already here. Saw a Nogaro Blue RS 3 cruising around my little wine hamlet prolly doing photoshoots for brochure and track stuff at the AE. It said RS 3 in the grill, so that was the second clue...
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Old 03-27-2015, 03:22 PM   #5
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Old 03-27-2015, 03:42 PM   #6
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Rumor: Audi RS 3 Sedan Confirmed for USA

We're hearing some interesting rumors emanating from the Audi of America all employee meeting being held today in Maryland. Chief among them is word that an RS 3 sedan will come to America!

Up until now, the RS 3 has been a European only affair. It was sold as a 5-door Sportback as the only body style the first time around and the latest version shown most recently in Geneva has followed that lead. That said, the Sportback remains a niche model not even on sale yet in America in the latest MQB-based form of the A3 line.

The A3/S3 sedan though***8230; that was designed with America in mind. While serious European car nerds who view cars like the Lancia Delta Integrale as the stuff of legends are drawn to super hot turbocharged hatchbacks like the RS 3 Sportback, the mainstream American market is not. Sedans simply sell better, and an RS 3 sedan harkens to the B5 S4 era, something a bit closer to Audi DNA than a Lancia Delta Integrale. Fair enough, super nerds may grouse, but an RS 3 for America is very much a good thing and it was most recently envisioned by X-tomi Design using cues from the RS 3 Sportback.

So what do we know about the RS 3 sedan? You can bet it will feature the same drivetrain as the Sportback. That means 2.5 TFSI at 362 bhp or a federalized U.S. equivalent, S tronic DSG that will make it brutally fast or 6-speed manual transmission that will make purists happy. It'll also get a much more aggressive rear torque bias thanks to more aggressive programming of its Haldex-based quattro all-wheel drive system.

Other than that, we don't know much. A contact who was at the presentation could only confirm that it is a sedan. Also, they specifically said that a manual transmission offering was yet to be determined. We're keeping fingers crossed on that one.

Will the RS 3 sedan look like the X-tomi render above? We're guessing no. The A3/S3 sedan don't share much with the Sportback models and as such the fascia will have to be redesigned. Also, confirmation now means the car likely won't arrive before the A3 family's mid-lifecycle product improvement (a.k.a. facelift), so we're guessing Audi of America will choose to wait until post facelift to make the car appear, much like Audi AG did with the RS 4 Avant and RS 5 Cabriolet, and Audi of America also did with the RS 5 coupé.

That's all we have for now, but we'll keep you updated as we learn more. For more information on the current RS 3 Sportback as well as other sedan rumors, check out our related links over on the right side of this story. Also, see more renders of an RS 3 sedan in our photo gallery archive linked in the usual places to the right and also below this story.
That's the worst "journalism" headline ever; It's a rumor that it's been confirmed...

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Old 04-07-2015, 10:06 AM   #7
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http://jalopnik.com/its-happening-36...lan-1696167545

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It's Happening: 367 HP Five-Cylinder Demon Audi RS3 Planned For U.S.

For the longest time, Volkswagen and Audi were arguably the worst offenders when it came to withholding their coolest cars from the U.S. market. I feel like the tide is changing with cars like the new 2015 Audi S3 and the 2015 Volkswagen Golf R, the best Golf R they've give us yet. Now for even better news: the 2016 Audi RS3 appears to be headed our way too. Hooray!

Audi of America CEO Scott Keogh confirmed this to Automotive News' Ryan Beene at the New York Auto Show. He said that the plan is for America to at last get the RS3, which packs all-wheel drive, a seven-speed dual clutch gearbox and a 2.5-liter turbocharged five-cylinder engine with 367 horsepower and 343 pound-feet of torque. Zero to 60 mph happens in about four seconds.

There's a catch, though: While the rest of the world gets the RS3 in five-door Sportback form, the U.S. is far more likely to get it as a sedan, Keogh said:

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"We really, really want the RS 3," Keogh said. The sedan is "going to be a great positioning car, a great halo car. I'm very confident we'll see that car in the market. That's as far as I'm going to go."
That makes total sense. In the luxury market, Americans just prefer sedans to hatchbacks. Audi A3 sales have blown up in the U.S. since it switched from a hatch-only bodystyle to the new MQB-platformed four-door sedan. If they want the RS3 to sell here at all, it pretty much has to be a sedan.

Whatever. I'm totally fine with that. The new S3 sedan is outstanding, so I can't even imagine what a monster the RS3 will be. This is going to be something to look forward to.
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Old 04-07-2015, 10:37 AM   #8
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My guess is low $50s. Anything at $60k will be M3 money and that's a lot more car. Even the S4 and S5 come close to that fully loaded which is a questionable value for performance ratio.

Still, and I get that Audi doesn't care, but I have no interest in a car like this without a six speed.
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Old 04-07-2015, 03:21 PM   #9
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Now bring the Golf R 400 and no one will care about the lack of a RS3 Sportback.
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Old 04-23-2015, 07:47 AM   #10
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After all those positive Golf R reviews, would have thought that new RS3 will be even better, but people seem to be disappointed.

http://www.evo.co.uk/audi/rs3

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Old 04-23-2015, 07:53 AM   #11
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understeering pig with laughable bigger tires at the front than at the rear, so much fail
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Old 04-24-2015, 02:28 PM   #13
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I really wanted this to be fantastic...but it looks like lightly used M3 is a much better buy.
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Almost a year since rumors first began that the Audi RS3 was under consideration for the U.S., Quattro World reports that during the Audi Summit for Audi of America employees, the German automaker’s executives confirmed the RS3 sedan has been given the green light.

Little is known about the Audi RS3 sedan and how it will come equipped to the U.S. and when, but expect a 2.5-liter turbocharged five-cylinder engine packing over 400 horsepower when it does arrive. The powerplant will be mated to a seven-speed S-Tronic gearbox and on the outside, it will have a facelifted appearance compared to the current RS3 Sportback.

It will also be likely that Audi Virtual Cockpit as well as RS3 specific shell seats will be available as an option. It’s unclear what pricing will be set at, but between the range of $55,000 to $60,000 is a possibility. While we would love to see it arrive as a 2017 model year, it will likely come stateside in late 2017 and be sold as a 2018 model.

Last year, Audi of America CEO Scott Keogh told Automotive News that the RS3 sedan would be a better fit for the U.S. and that he was “very confident” Audi of America would sell it here.
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I would get a Golf R over an RS3 any day. I sat in an S3 sedan at the dealer and it was a very nice car, but a bit too small for my family at the moment.
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between the range of $55,000 to $60,000 is a possibility


I like Audi and would like to own one but
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Well that is what an AMG CLA45 costs.. sooo just saying.
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Well that is what an AMG CLA45 costs.. sooo just saying.
Both fall squarely into the "more money than sense" category. $50-60K for a tarted up FWD platform? Really? $60K gets you into a dedicated RWD/biased platform and has for many years.
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Both fall squarely into the "more money than sense" category. $50-60K for a tarted up FWD platform? Really? $60K gets you into a dedicated RWD/biased platform and has for many years.
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FWD performance for $50-$60k.

$55k = corvette, optioned gt350 /camaro, M whatever, cayman, boxster,

Why would you want a FWD anything at that point.
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The 5 cylinder engine sounds like a gem but it appears it's a little too heavy an engine for this chassis.
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FWD performance for $50-$60k.

$55k = corvette, optioned gt350 /camaro, M whatever, cayman, boxster,

Why would you want a FWD anything at that point.
Except it's AWD. Matters not that it's origins are from a FWD chassis. The problem with this car is that the 5 cylinder engine is too heavy and makes the car too nose heavy.
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Why is that laughable? More companies with nose heavy or FWD bias cars should do the reverse stagger.

Is it laughable because you're bad at physics?
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Can you get a Corvette for $55k Hans? I was under the impression you're paying $60K for a base Corvette without the Z07 package.
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Except it's AWD. Matters not that it's origins are from a FWD chassis. The problem with this car is that the 5 cylinder engine is too heavy and makes the car too nose heavy.
Transverse AWD based on a FWD platform...not anywhere near the same as a dedicated AWD platform or an AWD adapted RWD platform.

This is just a TT-RS with 4 doors.
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Can you get a Corvette for $55k Hans? I was under the impression you're paying $60K for a base Corvette without the Z07 package.


Transverse AWD based on a FWD platform...not anywhere near the same as a dedicated AWD platform or an AWD adapted RWD platform.

This is just a TT-RS with 4 doors.
You mean a dedicated AWD platform like a Subaru? Those dedicated AWD platforms that are by default set to terminal understeer even in an STI. The transverse AWD platform has never been an issue for the EVO or the new Focus RS for that matter.

You mean an AWD adapted RWD platform like BMW xDrive which turns a nimble RWD platform into a terrible handling car? I can go all day shooting holes in your argument.
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You mean a dedicated AWD platform like a Subaru? Those dedicated AWD platforms that are by default set to terminal understeer even in an STI. The transverse AWD platform has never been an issue for the EVO or the new Focus RS for that matter.

You mean an AWD adapted RWD platform like BMW xDrive which turns a nimble RWD platform into a terrible handling car? I can go all day shooting holes in your argument.
So you're saying that this Haldex FWD based platform will be better than a BMW xDrive? Hell, compare within the family...I'll take an RS4 over the RS3 any day of the week without even considering the engine differences and that's simply due to the absolute differences in the AWD system implementation.

There is a huge difference in the robustness and performance of AWD systems when they're a large consideration of the design process. No **** AWD = understeer, especially against a RWD platform it may be based off. That's just a fact. Add the same electronic trickery in the Evo and RS to the mentioned RWD based platforms and they'll perform better than the RS and Evo. Those two examples are only valid BECAUSE of the electronic trickery needed to overcome platform weaknesses.
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