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Old 02-14-2018, 04:10 PM   #1
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Does anyone have any knowledge/experience whether a weighted aftermarket shift knob can cause any damage as stated in an ad from an OEM part seller...

"If you have a shift knob that is too heavy then you could be adding too much stress and strain to the shifter components which can cause miss shifts, or these ridiculous shift knobs can cause premature wear to the synchros of your transmissions.
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Old 02-14-2018, 04:22 PM   #2
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or these ridiculous shift knobs can cause premature wear to the synchros of your transmissions.
^that right there is what is ridiculous
I wonder if they have an agenda?

I have one, it's solid copper, weighs about 10x's what the plastic factory one weighed.
Shifts much smoother to be honest.
I can't think of any legitimate reason a heavier knob would cause wear on linkage parts or synchros.
I've been running it for about 50,000 miles so far and I don't expect to ever have major transmission issues, or at least not related to the stupid knob.
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Old 02-14-2018, 04:28 PM   #3
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if it's crazy heavy, it can wear out the shift forks in your transmission, it's like holding your hand on the shiftknob.

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Old 02-14-2018, 04:52 PM   #4
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^that right there is what is ridiculous
I wonder if they have an agenda?

I have one, it's solid copper, weighs about 10x's what the plastic factory one weighed.
Shifts much smoother to be honest.
I can't think of any legitimate reason a heavier knob would cause wear on linkage parts or synchros.
I've been running it for about 50,000 miles so far and I don't expect to ever have major transmission issues, or at least not related to the stupid knob.
I "believe" Subaru, and other MFR's, state that you should keep your hand off the shifter unless shifting. A heavy shifter knob could be the same......

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if it's crazy heavy, it can wear out the shift forks in your transmission, it's like holding your hand on the shiftknob.

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Agreed.....YMMV......your trans, your decision.....
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Old 02-14-2018, 04:57 PM   #5
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won't be an issue for the 2015+ wrx as it uses cable link. wouldn't really be a concern for direct linkages either really so long as you're not resting your hand on the shifter all the time. i've had a weighted shift knob for almost the whole life of the car, i do however have the kartboy short shift linkage mod which requires more force to get it into gear.
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Old 02-14-2018, 05:00 PM   #6
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I don t know cause I m the one asking but it seems that resting your hand is heavier and also may pull in a direction as it probably won t be straight down force. So a heavy LONG shifter can produce that same leverage in a direction. But a few hundred grams of low position weight????
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Old 02-14-2018, 05:02 PM   #7
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won't be an issue for the 2015+ wrx as it uses cable link. wouldn't really be a concern for direct linkages either really so long as you're not resting your hand on the shifter all the time. i've had a weighted shift knob for almost the whole life of the car, i do however have the kartboy short shift linkage mod which requires more force to get it into gear.

Ahhh, that s what I was told by Anarchy. Thanks for that info.
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Old 02-15-2018, 12:34 AM   #8
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better to just go to the gym and not have girly arms
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Old 02-15-2018, 10:13 PM   #9
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won't be an issue for the 2015+ wrx as it uses cable link. wouldn't really be a concern for direct linkages either really so long as you're not resting your hand on the shifter all the time. i've had a weighted shift knob for almost the whole life of the car, i do however have the kartboy short shift linkage mod which requires more force to get it into gear.
Can you explain why a heavy shift knob matters on direct linkage, but not on cable? Both are just two different ways to do the same thing.
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Old 02-16-2018, 06:26 AM   #10
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Can you explain why a heavy shift knob matters on direct linkage, but not on cable? Both are just two different ways to do the same thing.
it's not an issue for either, that statement is a bunch of bologna from someone with an agenda.
That tiny weight practically straight up puts barely any measureable force front to back.
it's moronic
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Old 02-16-2018, 09:41 AM   #11
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Can you explain why a heavy shift knob matters on direct linkage, but not on cable? Both are just two different ways to do the same thing.
cables have slack, direct linkages do not. also i clearly said it's not a concern for direct linkages either but resting your hand on the shifter is.
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Old 02-16-2018, 05:43 PM   #12
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I have a weighted shift knob on my 2016 WRX, and I also agree that it makes shifting much smoother, however, I have noticed that when the vehicle is placed in 4th gear, there is a terrible chatter that resonates on the knob. Anyone have a similar issue, and should I be concerned of this?
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Old 02-16-2018, 05:53 PM   #13
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I have about 35k on my Boomba shift plate/short shifter along with a Raceseng Topology shift knob (2016 WRX). Over 50k total on the car, have Mobil 1 gear oil in it and it shifts beautifully. I've put a short shifter and weighted knobs on every vehicle I've owned since the 1990s without ever having a problem.

A. Don't shift like you're some D-bag in a Fast n Furious movie
B. Change the gear oil according to manufacturer's recs with a high quality spec product
C. Don't shift like you're some D-bag in a Fast n Furious movie

Unfortunately the majority of the WRX owners I see fall under A and C. Flat bill, rev their stupid muffler delete catless Depot Racing J pipe engine when they pass me douche nozzles. It's easy to see why the WRX has an image of being unreliable.
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Old 02-18-2018, 05:41 PM   #14
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Unfortunately the majority of the WRX owners I see fall under A and C. Flat bill, rev their stupid muffler delete catless Depot Racing J pipe engine when they pass me douche nozzles. It's easy to see why the WRX has an image of being unreliable.
hahahaha, all too true. They also help drive up the cost of insurance. Thank you!
To be more on topic, most adult arms weigh more than weighted shift knobs offered in the aftermarket.
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Old 02-19-2018, 07:46 AM   #15
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hahahaha, all too true. They also help drive up the cost of insurance. Thank you!
To be more on topic, most adult arms weigh more than weighted shift knobs offered in the aftermarket.
But these adult arms aren’t resting on the shifter the entire time the car is on, so how’s that relevant?
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Old 02-24-2018, 12:38 AM   #16
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I have a weighted shift knob on my 2016 WRX, and I also agree that it makes shifting much smoother, however, I have noticed that when the vehicle is placed in 4th gear, there is a terrible chatter that resonates on the knob. Anyone have a similar issue, and should I be concerned of this?
I have a Raceseng Slammer on my 2018 WRX that has this 4th gear clatter too. If I gently shift it into 4th, no audible clatter but I do feel it in the shifter sometimes.
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Old 02-26-2018, 03:32 PM   #17
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I think it is a valid concern and yes, a heavier weight on the end of the shift lever will increase wear, albeit to a degree you cannot measure. Most people won't own a car long enough to notice a difference in wear.
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Old 02-26-2018, 03:43 PM   #18
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Does anyone have any knowledge/experience whether a weighted aftermarket shift knob can cause any damage as stated in an ad from an OEM part seller...

"If you have a shift knob that is too heavy then you could be adding too much stress and strain to the shifter components which can cause miss shifts, or these ridiculous shift knobs can cause premature wear to the synchros of your transmissions.
I've been using a 525gram Brass knob for about 2 years now
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Old 02-28-2018, 12:31 PM   #19
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I would not be concerned with any of the available weighted knobs causing issues, even if I believe the main purpose of a weighted knob is to enrich the seller.
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Old 02-28-2018, 01:52 PM   #20
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People spend $200 on titanium lug nuts to save weight and then get a lead shift knob.

I don't get it. I come from the Colin Chapman school of car stuff. Add lightness. I'd be drilling holes in the stock plastic knob to make it even lighter.
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Old 02-28-2018, 02:04 PM   #21
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People spend $200 on titanium lug nuts to save weight and then get a lead shift knob.

I don't get it. I come from the Colin Chapman school of car stuff. Add lightness. I'd be drilling holes in the stock plastic knob to make it even lighter.
I can't speak to the titanium lugs (actually the ones I've looked up are even more expensive than that...) since that's not something I'd personally ever pay for, but in for most people real-world driving is more about a balance of performance, comfort, and fun. I mean, yeah if a shelled out car with a roll-cage and no heat/AC/Radio/sound dampening/plastic windows/etc. and a carbon-fiber tub for a seat is the way you enjoy driving it all the time then more power to you.
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Old 02-28-2018, 03:25 PM   #22
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Speaking of weighted shift knobs, anyone else waiting 12+ weeks for a knob from Anarchy Motive??
Hoping I didn't get scammed lol
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Old 02-28-2018, 03:36 PM   #23
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I've had an Anarchy motive knob on my wrx for probably 5 years now. Other than some paint flaking when I originally got it, it's been fine. It helps make the shifting smoother with the Kartboy SS kit.
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Old 02-28-2018, 04:00 PM   #24
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I just hope they didn't go out of business. Havent updated their facebook in some time, didn't respond to my email yet.
I know they've had issues with lead time but 12 weeks for a block of metal ... sheesh
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Old 02-28-2018, 05:31 PM   #25
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I just hope they didn't go out of business. Havent updated their facebook in some time, didn't respond to my email yet.
I know they've had issues with lead time but 12 weeks for a block of metal ... sheesh
I spoke to someone on phone, so they are there, for now, LOL....
I thought they said 8 weeks? I was hoping that s the long end and it will come sooner.
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