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Old 12-03-2000, 09:26 PM   #1
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Post How do you clean your car?

hey, i was just wondering the best way to clean my car. it is red, and it leaves the thin spider webs all over. what is the best way and best products?

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Old 12-03-2000, 09:32 PM   #2
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I would also like to hear that. I have a silver Impreza and a black Forester. My Impreza is one of the cleanest silver scooby's I have ever seen and I am not just saying that. My Forester looks horrible. Swirl marks are all over the place. I need help with cleaning the exterior of the black car.
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Old 12-03-2000, 09:43 PM   #3
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I have this special stuff calle "waterless car wash" which really should be title "soapless"

Anyway, you wax this stuff on...then when it gets dirty hose it down at the jet wash, sometimes thats not enough....theats when i break out the cloth and bucket and hand wash it.... if you want your car really clean wash it panel by panel

clean a panel then dry it, then repeat on the next panel... then wax if you feel necessary

Mine is the cleanest BRP!

Then I ues eagle one wheel shine for the tires, and I put it on the underskirt as well, makes it sparkle...oooooo pwetty (light hurt eyes, but so pwetty!)

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Old 12-03-2000, 09:54 PM   #4
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otaku's "spider-web" = swirls ?
swirls suck, don't know how to get rid of them since i own a silver car ..hehe
but try some auto polish(not wax), those should fill up SOME tiny scratch marks/swirls

as for washing/cleaning the car..
I put on a polish right after the first time i washed my car. I don't think what kind of carwash makes any difference. I kept applying the layer of polish/protectant on every-so-often, to make sure it's still doing its job.

i hardly wash my car, i wipe my car with wet cloth mostly, since it's too cold to be outside spaying water.
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Old 12-03-2000, 10:46 PM   #5
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you might check out over at VWvortex, they have a whole forum set up for car care tips.

I think I've found my winter solution. I had a ton of salt on my car(black), looked cool for a while, then it had to go. It was like 9:00 at night and very cold, so I figured the self serve spray stall thingy would be totaly empty and unattended. I took a bucket and sponge over there and went to work. Pressure wash, Pressure soap, Pressure wash into bucket for water then Soap brush for suds, Sponge down car, Pressure Spray. Drive home... The car had a great shine the next morning, my neighbor even mentioned something about it... I've been stopping back every two days or so to give it another quick Pressure Spray. I'll probably need to sponge it next weekend.

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Old 12-04-2000, 05:06 AM   #6
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I have found a way to get rid of the swirls or at least a very large portion of them. First use 2 to 3 buckets to wash your car. I use 3 buckets. Next rinse the car off fill up the bucket and use a good quality wash and wash mit, do not use a sponge as it traps dirt and causes swirls. Then you can start to wash. I use the first bucket to wash the hood, trunk, roof and upper side body panels. Then I switch to the 2nd bucket and use it to wash the bumpers and the bottom areas of the car. After you have washed the car I use the 3rd bucket to wash the wheels this is the only part I use a sponge for cleaning. Then dry off the car I prefer a synthetic chamois over a real leather one. Now is the time to get the swirls out. First evaluate your paint. You may need to use a clay bar on your car. I did and highly recommend doing so. If you decided to clay your car then you can start on the second step now. If you decided to skip the claying start here. Use a good polish ( I recommend safe cut by the wax shop ). You need to work it into the area good and allow it to slightly haze then wipe the rest off. Its also very important that you use good quality towels for this. Target seems to have the best towels for this in their auto department. You might want to apply the polish a couple of times. I applied it 2 times. Then after you have used a good polish use some 3M Imperial hand glaze . This will hide any imperfections and give the car a very nice shine although it does not protect. Once you have finished applying the hand glaze you are ready to wax. I also recommend a very high quality wax. I would also recommend that you use Meguirs yellow paste wax so you get a good wax coat. I have used practically all of waxes on the market and they seem to cause this cheap subaru paint to swirl. This however is the only wax that does not seem to cause swirls. So if you have decided to do all this work on your car then I know you have spent a lot of hours on it so you might want to put 2 to 3 coats of wax on it to protect it. I would also recommend rewaxing every 2 weeks to keep it nice and clean. You can get the wax shops safe cut from pep boys or online at www.waxdepot.com . This worked on my car so if worked on mine I see absolutely see no reason why it wont work on yours. Its all about nice looking cars.


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Old 12-04-2000, 07:35 AM   #7
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I have a black MY99 and have been fighting swirls for the life of the car. Chris' post is pretty much spot on, although at first bluch its eems excessive. With the rather poor durability of Subaru's clear coat, there is no substitute for sveral steps and hard work. I've found that simple two-step process is pretty good- a high quality polish and then a mild carnuba wax. If you really are swirly, you might be able to replace the clay bar step with 3m's swirl remover. I hear it does wonders.

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Old 12-04-2000, 07:46 AM   #8
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kill spider webs... use detail clay!!!

i swear by that stuff.... look... my car goes off road all the time... ALL THE TIME... but you cant tell cuz i baby the paint!!

detail clay
polish
cleaner
wax


and ya are done!!! it's beauuutiful!!!

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Old 12-04-2000, 09:13 AM   #9
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I have a black coupe and I am very careful on how I wash and dry a car. First off I use a mild sope from Zymol also Griots make great products and advice check them out http://www.griotsgarage.com/index.jsp. I let the soap drip on the car and lightly pat it with a cotton wash mit (always use 100% cotton). Rinse off with warm water, then I lightly pat the car with a 100% cotton towel. Never drag the towel across the paint, thats how you get the spider web effect in your car. If you want to get the swirl marks out, and not hide them, I would get the Machine polish 1, 2 and 3 from Griots. If you have any questions you can PM me.
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Old 12-04-2000, 09:27 AM   #10
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i have a question about the swirl marks everyone is talking about. After i got my RS this summer i washed and waxed it with McQuires gold and ended up with swirl marks. Now the swirl marks i've got are only noticeable when looking at the side of the car from an angle. they almost look like greasy marks. So apon noticing this i took the car to the dealer body shop where i paid them $100 to get rid of the swirls. They couldn't get rid of the swirls but they did manage to make them less appearent. So if the dealer couldn't get them out, is there any hope that i'll be able to? here's what they told me they did. stripped wax, cleaned car, glazed and rewaxed.

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Old 12-04-2000, 09:58 AM   #11
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Your car should have come back perfect. If it came back with swirls, my bet is that they didn't do a true cut/cleaning with either by clay or cutting compund.

What do you guys think? I think you could get them out yourself with some elbow grease.
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Old 12-04-2000, 10:07 AM   #12
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shimstock the dealer just basically re-waxed your car. Compound will get out the web effect. But I recomend www.griotsgarage.com and get the Machine polish 1 2 and 3. It will remove the swirl or web instead of hiding it.
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Old 12-04-2000, 06:40 PM   #13
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The best thing I found is "The BIG Blue Sponge" It holds a lot of water, which minimizes swirl marks and scratches. Also use a seperact sponge on your wheels.
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Old 12-04-2000, 07:22 PM   #14
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I can't say enough about the 3M glaze and finish restorer. Both will get out most of the visible swirl marks in your car if you wax regularly. I get 3M stuff occasionally on the cheap, but when I have to buy it, it costs. $8-10 or so a bottle. Worth it for my car, though.

Another tip is to get rid of crappy shammies which have accumulated dirt. I have a synth shammy I use. I definitely prefer that over the real ones.

I don't use clay. I did a while back, but it was pretty wretched-looking. Maybe I was doing something wrong, but I didn't notice any improvement compared to the amount of work I put into it.

I use terry cloth towels, but I pulverize em and wet em and dry em before using them. Just standard terry cloth will do-the key is to get them soft and smooth.

Typically, I'll take a Sunday and do everything on my car. My steps:

1) Rinse off the car with low-pressure water.
2) Sponge bath the car once with dirty hand sponge and low-qual soap (I used Simoniz). Scrub off some of wheels, some of plastic, etc.
3) Rinse and give it a real wash with detailer-grade mitt and Mothers' soap. Clean everything. I like Mothers' products the best. YMMV.
4) Rinse and dry using a synthetic chammy.
5) Apply one layer of 3M hand glaze.
6) Go over any scratches, marks, etc. with some rubbing compound (though this stuff is bad karma for your paint, I use it anyway. if you get lots of scratches, it beats the hell out of body shop prices.) Use eraser, wet newspaper, trim/plastic cleaner, etc.
6) Apply full three stage wax. Use two coats of glaze.
7) Dry off and put on the tire cleaner/shiner stuff (I use Eagle 1) and then the wheel cleaner/shiner stuff. I scrub the tire and wheel stuff. Spray and rinse doesn't do it for me.
8) Go over any plastic trim again.
9) Clean interior. I use UV2 to go over the dash and I clean everywhere.
10) Vacuum out interior. I take special care to not vacuum up any important documents (phone numbers ) lying around.
11) Shampoo carpets. I only do this about every 6 months, when I put on that stage 1 of the three stage wax job.
12) Admire your car, grab a drink, and relax.

I used to do about 6 steps twice a week. Now I just do steps 1-4 once or twice a week. Once a month I do the whole shebang. It takes me forever, but I enjoy taking some time out to do this sort of thing.
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Old 12-04-2000, 09:24 PM   #15
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Old 12-05-2000, 12:00 AM   #16
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Just as a note, not sure if it has been said yet, but a VERY nice wax that I recently got is called Zymoil (spelling?). Not only does it smell like shampoo but it does a very nice job of protecting that paint. My dad and I were very impressed with the wax when we were done. Please give it a try!
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Old 12-05-2000, 12:08 AM   #17
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Lets face it people, the stock paint SUCKS! Just repaint your car like I plan to. I'll post pics when it's complete. BTW, pretty much decided on the ELECTRIC BLUE that is found on the BMW M3 Roadster.
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Old 12-05-2000, 02:15 AM   #18
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anyone use The Absorber to dry their car? i got one at kragen's sale. it seems to clear away huge areas of puddles fast. there have always been swirl marks and i can't tell if its from The absober or sponge. works for me though. that is, until i can prove it's actually damaging my finish. -g
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Old 12-05-2000, 01:13 PM   #19
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I use a hose (no sprayer nozle), car specific wash, a terricloth wash mit, or natural sea sponge,rinse too often (never let soap dry on your car) chamois dry, wax with McGuires paste wax (twice) and enjoy........It looks good, check out my pics in the members section (I am the Shawn In Chesterfield Missouri)
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Old 12-05-2000, 09:01 PM   #20
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From what I have always been told and heard a sea sponge is definitely not something you want to use on your car. The reason being because it contains sand particles that scratch your paints surface. No matter how much you rinse them or wash them out you will never get out all the sand particles.


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