Treadstone VS ETS FMIC

BlackFighter · 01-09-2021, 02:48 PM

So im stuck between two FMIC kits, both will do the trick but I guess its more of a personal preference. I want to use the ETS FMIC because the charge pipe doesn't go over the turbo, and same with the Treadstone piping. Price for both is around he same $1250, but was told the Treadstone core cools a little better. Any thought on the two FMICs?

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spoolinsti05 · 01-10-2021, 12:12 AM

Bar and plate core is stronger, yet heavier. Tube and fin cools better more airflow to radiator also with that style. But it get banged up easily.

BlackFighter · 01-10-2021, 11:42 PM

Hya? Ya I know the difference between the two styles but not what I asked. Both kits are bar and plate. Thank though

BlackFighter · 01-11-2021, 12:13 AM

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Scuby04STi · 01-21-2021, 12:38 PM

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Just baised on the information on the two websites I would lean towards Treadstone. I like the cast endtanks as well as the shape/outlet location off them. It appears to be well thought out and likely eliminates the fitment issues people get behind the fog light covers sense the appear to extend well into that area.

My 2 cents from just looking the product over on the internet.

Stretch18 · 01-21-2021, 01:40 PM

The treadstone core is massive. I have no doubt it cools better but really how much better at that point? ETS tends towards very big cores already, so probably not a whole lot irl. Unless you’re going for really big power.

The downside of an oversized intercooler is more pressure drop.

BlackFighter · 01-21-2021, 03:37 PM

ETS core is 4" and the Treadstone core is 4.5". I'm going to go with the Treadstone since it should cool a little better and a few hundred dollars cheaper. The core is also designed after the APS core, so it will help with airduct placement for the brakes.

BlackFighter · 01-21-2021, 05:47 PM

Ya i said screw it, pulled the trigger and just ordered the Treadstone fmic. New full kit $1148 total shipped, cant beat that price. Wrinkle black with tial flange. Just have to wait for some time. Apparently Treadstone is really backed up and having issues fulfilling orders. Good thing I dont need it right away.

Scuby04STi · 01-21-2021, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackFighter

Ya i said screw it, pulled the trigger and just ordered the Treadstone fmic. New full kit $1148 total shipped, cant beat that price. Wrinkle black with tial flange. Just have to wait for some time. Apparently Treadstone is really backed up and having issues fulfilling orders. Good thing I dont need it right away.

Everything involving aluminum has been a major issue sense the start of 2020, at the Manufacturing plant that the place I work gets our main product from bought a year supply the week covid started to be a major topic and they still have material issues because demand has been higher on any hobby especially if it is outdoors.

BlackFighter · 01-22-2021, 11:06 AM

Ya had a brain fart and jumped the gun (due to good price) and forgot Treadstone uses aluminum piping vs the ETS stainless steel. How much heat soak are we talking about. Again this will be on a track car, no traffic lights. Maybe on weekends

Getting to excited to fast with this build and need to slow down to make sure I order the correct parts.

KillerBMotorsport · 01-22-2021, 02:38 PM

Are the cores from the same manufacturer? If not, that would be the deciding factor for me. A big crappy core will never be as efficient as a smaller high quality piece.

BlackFighter · 01-22-2021, 07:58 PM

The ETS is 4" and the Treadstone is 4.5"

The way I see it, Treadstone has better core but ETS has better piping. Looks like the Treadstone core was designed after the APS 725.

"Treadstone Performance Engineering Intercoolers are crafted from superb 6061 T6 Aircraft Grade Aluminum. They are made from a bar and plate construction and are pressured checked to 150 psi. Our end-tanks are TIG welded in-house, by hand; making each product unique and guaranteeing the quality assurance of each of our products. Our end-tanks are CAD engineered to distribute even airflow with low-turbulence and low-pressure-drop."

ETS

"The key component to any good intercooler kit is the intercooler core itself. All of our intercoolers use the same record-setting core used in all the ETS race cars. It utilizes an unrivaled internal fin pack with its extremely efficient design (made exclusively for Extreme Turbo Systems). Pressure tested to 35 PSI. Hand fabricated and tig welded end tanks. Record-setting core design. Built in the USA"

Going to stick with Treadstone.

01-09-2021, 02:48 PM	#1
BlackFighter Scooby Specialist Member#: 193940 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Philly Vehicle: 2004 WRX STI Black RalliSpec Shortblock	Treadstone VS ETS FMIC So im stuck between two FMIC kits, both will do the trick but I guess its more of a personal preference. I want to use the ETS FMIC because the charge pipe doesn't go over the turbo, and same with the Treadstone piping. Price for both is around he same $1250, but was told the Treadstone core cools a little better. Any thought on the two FMICs? * Registered users of the site do not see these ads. Last edited by BlackFighter; 01-11-2021 at 10:29 AM.

01-21-2021, 05:47 PM	#8
BlackFighter Scooby Specialist Member#: 193940 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Philly Vehicle: 2004 WRX STI Black RalliSpec Shortblock	Ya i said screw it, pulled the trigger and just ordered the Treadstone fmic. New full kit $1148 total shipped, cant beat that price. Wrinkle black with tial flange. Just have to wait for some time. Apparently Treadstone is really backed up and having issues fulfilling orders. Good thing I dont need it right away. Last edited by BlackFighter; 01-21-2021 at 06:51 PM.

01-22-2021, 11:06 AM	#10
BlackFighter Scooby Specialist Member#: 193940 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Philly Vehicle: 2004 WRX STI Black RalliSpec Shortblock	Ya had a brain fart and jumped the gun (due to good price) and forgot Treadstone uses aluminum piping vs the ETS stainless steel. How much heat soak are we talking about. Again this will be on a track car, no traffic lights. Maybe on weekends Getting to excited to fast with this build and need to slow down to make sure I order the correct parts. Last edited by BlackFighter; 01-22-2021 at 07:55 PM.

01-22-2021, 07:58 PM	#12
BlackFighter Scooby Specialist Member#: 193940 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Philly Vehicle: 2004 WRX STI Black RalliSpec Shortblock	The ETS is 4" and the Treadstone is 4.5" The way I see it, Treadstone has better core but ETS has better piping. Looks like the Treadstone core was designed after the APS 725. "Treadstone Performance Engineering Intercoolers are crafted from superb 6061 T6 Aircraft Grade Aluminum. They are made from a bar and plate construction and are pressured checked to 150 psi. Our end-tanks are TIG welded in-house, by hand; making each product unique and guaranteeing the quality assurance of each of our products. Our end-tanks are CAD engineered to distribute even airflow with low-turbulence and low-pressure-drop." ETS "The key component to any good intercooler kit is the intercooler core itself. All of our intercoolers use the same record-setting core used in all the ETS race cars. It utilizes an unrivaled internal fin pack with its extremely efficient design (made exclusively for Extreme Turbo Systems). Pressure tested to 35 PSI. Hand fabricated and tig welded end tanks. Record-setting core design. Built in the USA" Going to stick with Treadstone. Last edited by BlackFighter; 01-22-2021 at 08:32 PM.

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01-10-2021, 12:12 AM	#2
spoolinsti05 Scooby Guru Member#: 108051 Join Date: Feb 2006 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: NY Vehicle: 2005 TickingTimeBomb Jr tuned TT Sleeved	Bar and plate core is stronger, yet heavier. Tube and fin cools better more airflow to radiator also with that style. But it get banged up easily.

01-10-2021, 11:42 PM	#3
BlackFighter Scooby Specialist Member#: 193940 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Philly Vehicle: 2004 WRX STI Black RalliSpec Shortblock	Hya? Ya I know the difference between the two styles but not what I asked. Both kits are bar and plate. Thank though

01-11-2021, 12:13 AM	#4
BlackFighter Scooby Specialist Member#: 193940 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Philly Vehicle: 2004 WRX STI Black RalliSpec Shortblock	.....

01-21-2021, 01:40 PM	#6
Stretch18 Scooby Specialist Member#: 239822 Join Date: Mar 2010 Chapter/Region: South East Location: America's Penis Vehicle: 2010 WRX pandiculation	The treadstone core is massive. I have no doubt it cools better but really how much better at that point? ETS tends towards very big cores already, so probably not a whole lot irl. Unless you’re going for really big power. The downside of an oversized intercooler is more pressure drop.

01-21-2021, 03:37 PM	#7
BlackFighter Scooby Specialist Member#: 193940 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Philly Vehicle: 2004 WRX STI Black RalliSpec Shortblock	ETS core is 4" and the Treadstone core is 4.5". I'm going to go with the Treadstone since it should cool a little better and a few hundred dollars cheaper. The core is also designed after the APS core, so it will help with airduct placement for the brakes.

01-22-2021, 02:38 PM	#11
KillerBMotorsport NASIOC Vendor Member#: 198281 Join Date: Dec 2008 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Virginia Vehicle: 2005 WRX/STi WRB of course	Are the cores from the same manufacturer? If not, that would be the deciding factor for me. A big crappy core will never be as efficient as a smaller high quality piece.